2017-18 State of Russian Ladies skating

[puremagic]

are you from Russia? you drink too much

P.S. what's your prediction for ladies?

There is pretty good bet on Osmond over Zagtiova in the short program. The odd is about ~5.5-5.7. This bet is also good for Alina's fans. For example, you can bet on Osmond over Zagitova 10 dollars: Osmond ahead of Zagitova after the short program? Well, here you go, well-deserved 45 bucks. If not, I guess Zagi's success in the short program and your joy about that, cost much expensive than 10 dollars.

Also, a very good bet on Medvedeva's win in the short program: ~1.5-1.8. I guess Evgenia should be a bit higher if both are clean.

But about overall result it's hard to say. I still have some doubts about Zagi's SP.

 

[russianfan]

There is pretty good bet on Osmond over Zagtiova in the short program. The odd is about ~5.5-5.7. This bet is also good for Alina's fans. For example, you can bet on Osmond over Zagitova 10 dollars: Osmond ahead of Zagitova after the short program? Well, here you go, well-deserved 45 bucks. If not, I guess Zagi's success in the short program and your joy about that, cost much expensive than 10 dollars.

Also, a very good bet on Medvedeva's win in the short program: ~1.5-1.8. I guess Evgenia should be a bit higher if both are clean.

But about overall result it's hard to say. I still have some doubts about Zagi's SP.

Yeah, it will be hard for her to keep calm and clean. Where do you get all those coefficients? may be i should start betting too

 

[puremagic]

Better to keep a secret!

 

[Nikidom]

There is pretty good bet on Osmond over Zagtiova in the short program.

But about overall result it's hard to say. I still have some doubts about Zagi's SP.

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Isn't that obvious?

Not at all!!!!

 

[esteticlove]

I've just realized I'll be home in Bulgaria at the time of Junior Worlds. :eekn: Has anyone already seen a schedule? When are the ladies skating? :hap85:

 

[puremagic]

I've just realized I'll be home in Bulgaria at the time of Junior Worlds. :eekn: Has anyone already seen a schedule? When are the ladies skating? :hap85:

Bulgaria is a lucky country for Russian Ladies. In 2014 year there was also held Junior Worlds, where Russian ladies took all three first places:

1. Radio
2. Sakhanovich
3. Medvedeva
Will they repeat this result?

 

[esteticlove]

First two spots are theirs and the third.... well who knows

 

[BossT]

Definitely one can say: the fate of the Olympic Gold medal will be decided by Alina's SP Performance
And she very understands this, I think

The first perfomance of this SP: Sochi, 09/09/2017, Control Skatings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhae8lm717U&t=3s

 

[Spirals for Miles]

If Alina even steps out or loses a couple of levels in her SP, it's gone for her I think.
Why?
At Euros, perfect Alina scored 80.27 in the short. Perfect Alina = clean 3Lz+3Lo, clean rippon 3F, clean 2A, all level fours on spins and steps.
Not perfect Evgenia scored 78.57 in the short. Not perfect Evgenia = clean 3F+3T with flip tano, clean 3Lo, stepout on 2A, all level fours on spins and steps.

Perfect Alina scored 157.97 in the free. Her skate there only has one way to improve: fixing her musical cues
Not perfect Evgenia scored 154.29. Ways Evgenia could improve this score: better first flip, more rippons/tanos to increase GOE, less tightness on jumps, having a 2A-2T-2Lo rather than 2A-2T-2T. She will do all of them except the last one, probably. Maybe she'll surprise us with her layout.

Evgenia lost not only GOE but also PCS for her errors. If she fixes them --> higher scores. Maybe by 3-4 points. That might be enough to win over clean Alina, maybe not. So if Alina makes a small mistake --> goodbye GOE on that jump, maybe also lowered PCS. Of course, unless both of them implode, they're taking the top two spots. But we'll see in the short.

 

[madison]

Definitely one can say: the fate of the Olympic Gold medal will be decided by Alina's SP Performance
And she very understands this, I think

And if both are perfectly clean (although I doubt), who will win?

 

[Spirals for Miles]

I think Evgenia would win the short, either of the two the free (very close) but overall Evgenia by the narrowest of margins

 

[russianfan]

And if both are perfectly clean (although I doubt), who will win?

<—- see my avatar

 

[Spirals for Miles]

Well, there's no mistaking who russianfan is rooting for this Olympic cycle!

 

[LiamForeman]

What do you mean by they are sexualized? Their make-up? Well, without it they're beautiful as well. It's just part of their life and also skating. Every girl (even so young) wants to look beautiful, who doesn't? They're almost all on instagram at age of ten, what can you do here... Some of them use it, some of them don't... It's a long and pointless conversation. My point is just with or without such make-ups, there are so many beautiful girls. Just joy for my eyes. Every second girl is a topmodel...

Yep. I don't think of girls wearing make-up as sexualizing them. My parents are really conservative yet they didn't care that in 6th grade my sister started wearing make-up like all the other girls her age, I guess that was 12? I even think Trusova's SP to "Big Spender" is hilarious that people are saying how she's TOO YOUNG to skate to that song. I know the lyrics, but HUH??? The song is a parody. Frankly I can't imagine an adult skating to that song seriously, well maybe someone like Kaetllyn Osmond who seems clueless to me. That SP of Trusova's is fun, and it's just a little girl playing dress-up in my eyes.

 

[hanca]

Well, it is normal that fans sometimes exaggerate. I do not see a problem with it. You should check out comments from other sports or comments about yuzu.



yes, my comment about the russian curling women has a sexual undertone. Men find women attractive. something new for you hanca?

Well, the creepy factor is that a big percentage of the skaters that are admired on this forum are underage. So, yes, it is VERY creepy when you say that males find women attractive. We are talking about children.

 

[russianfan]

Well, the creepy factor is that a big percentage of the skaters that are admired on this forum are underage. So, yes, it is VERY creepy when you say that males find women attractive. We are talking about children.

Come on, Bryzgalova isn’t underage You just misunderstood each other

 

[hanca]

Come on, Bryzgalova isn’t underage You just misunderstood each other

I didn’t misunderstand. We are on a skating forum and my original post was that some of the posters get their fandom so far that it is creepy. To which you responded that it is natural because males find females attractive. Well, look around- this is Russian figure skating thread and most posts are about females. What percentage of those Russian females are over the age of 18? Not many!

 

[skatingfan200]

Well, the creepy factor is that a big percentage of the skaters that are admired on this forum are underage. So, yes, it is VERY creepy when you say that males find women attractive. We are talking about children.

Please inform yourself before you write such nonsense. Bryzgalova isn’t underage

VERY creepy when you say that males find women attractive

Did you read children? So stop imputing things that I never wrote.
And yes women are attractive. I dont care if you find that creepy.

 

[hanca]

Please inform yourself before you write such nonsense. Bryzgalova isn’t underage


Did you read children? So stop imputing things that I never wrote.
And yes women are attractive. I dont care if you find that creepy.

This thread has 6904 posts. Would you like to check how many posts are about Bryzgalova? And how many are abour underage females? You are trying distracting strategy, but I am sorry, this thread is not about Bryzgalova. It is about Russian skaters, and most posts are about Russian females and many of them are still underaged. So your post about Bryzgalova is not really relevant.