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Evgenia Medvedeva

OT, but is it only me who can't seem to access page 637?

Edit: it's working now, I'm not sure why it kept sending me back to 636 :confused:
 
With all the top talents training together rather than competing against each other, it would be a much more friendly learning environment than what was going on under Eteri. I can't imagine training with all the pressure of competing against your skating partner, Alina and then worrying about the next generation of skaters coming up too. Switching coaches was her best decision. The only "scary" part is moving to Canada which is a lot more relaxed and can be distracting if you aren't focused on your goal.
 
yoloaxel said:
OT, but is it only me who can't seem to access page 637?

Edit: it's working now, I'm not sure why it kept sending me back to 636 :confused:
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I had the same problem. Someone deleted a message so the thread didn't know how to react :laugh:

tomc100 said:
With all the top talents training together rather than competing against each other, it would be a much more friendly learning environment than what was going on under Eteri. I can't imagine training with all the pressure of competing against your skating partner, Alina and then worrying about the next generation of skaters coming up too. Switching coaches was her best decision. The only "scary" part is moving to Canada which is a lot more relaxed and can be distracting if you aren't focused on your goal.
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And when you add the injury and the olympic pressure... :drama:
 
So now that it was mentioned in the other thread, I actually think that Zhenya's hardest competition of the season will undoubtedly be RusNats.

Why? She can easily do well at her GP assignments, and if she doesn't win the GPF in her adjustment season it won't really be a big deal. However, she needs to deliver at nats, not only to beat Alina but to show her strength when facing the next generation, who will be eligible soon. Also, she needs a good performance to prove that she made the right choice choosing a foreign coach.
 
yoloaxel said:
So now that it was mentioned in the other thread, I actually think that Zhenya's hardest competition of the season will undoubtedly be RusNats.

Why? She can easily do well at her GP assignments, and if she doesn't win the GPF in her adjustment season it won't really be a big deal. However, she needs to deliver at nats, not only to beat Alina but to show her strength when facing the next generation, who will be eligible soon. Also, she needs a good performance to prove that she made the right choice choosing a foreign coach.
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That's a good point. OTOH, if she manages to face the quadfest and still do well, it would be an enormous boost of confidence for the 2019-2020 season!
 
yoloaxel said:
So now that it was mentioned in the other thread, I actually think that Zhenya's hardest competition of the season will undoubtedly be RusNats.

Why? She can easily do well at her GP assignments, and if she doesn't win the GPF in her adjustment season it won't really be a big deal. However, she needs to deliver at nats, not only to beat Alina but to show her strength when facing the next generation, who will be eligible soon. Also, she needs a good performance to prove that she made the right choice choosing a foreign coach.
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You're completely right. She also needs to be among the best in Russia to go to Europeans / Worlds, but she's pretty safe, there isn't any real threat among the seniors except Alina.
I wonder what would happen if she wasn't in the top 3, though; would the RusFed trust her as they (partly) did with the Olympics or would they just abandon her? :scratch2: Well, that won't happen, and I'm not sure I want to know the answer :biggrin:
 
I LOVE JASON! I love his personality, in fact all American skaters are so outgoing, I love them. Zhenya will be able to laugh a lot with Jason and Jin.I do not think the amount is a problem, they have a huge team and not all athletes need the same amount of hours. In addition, they usually train in pairs.
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I just saw the full FAO I hahah, before I only saw the videos of Zhenya, but now, seeing everything, I discovered that Zhenya did very well, some girls stumbled on their jumps. It really impacts the ability of Zhenya to land. Her jumps are tight and the preparation of the salchow took longer than usual, but now it has more breadth and covers more space in the ice after the jump. If she increases the height it would be great!


* Zhenya came out after Plushenko, and god, I could not stop laughing with Plushy Hahaha, he's a real heartthrob, he hugged a girl from the audience and people went crazy hahaha:rofl:, I love his personality.



Well, actually, as they say about criticizing pantomime is just an excuse, if it were not that, it would be anything else. The same happened with Plushenko, he was extroverted, expressive, had many programs with modern music and not only War Horses, and people also criticized that. When you're at the top, any nonsense can be a point of criticism. In addition people like to compare. Sasha had many facial expressions (which I loved) and was also criticized for that and compared to Michelle. Yagudin used pantomime too, in fact his programs had a lot of theater (Gladiator, Iron Mask), Plushenko and Weir's programs were also. It's just that this is seen more in the male field. I really like it when girls break the paradigm in the athletic and artistic. What struck me Zhenya's attention was the mixture between theater and dance, contemporary music, her ability to leave the spectator pending the end of the story.Saying that Zhenya should eliminate this is like telling Sia to stop using conceptual dance in her video clips. Bad idea. That is their differentiating element from the whole boring mass.;)
 
KiraraChin said:
Catching up with everything...

Looking again at Zhenya's FaOI program... Yes, there is still the 'Averbukh feeling', but her spins look more powerful than before, and I wonder if her jumps will get more powerful, too, as she gets healthier and stronger :love: I also noticed the way she was moving her arms was more expressive than in many of the past programs. Just subtle things which hopefully can give us a little insight on what's to come :)

As for her being 'fuller', I bet Brian told her to eat :P Seriously, though, I noticed that she looks thinner with the grey/lilac dress so it might be an impression caused by the red dress. In any case, I guess we should expect her to build up a bit more muscle, Canadian-style.

Regarding her artistry and miming, this is what Brian said about her during the Olympics to the New York Times: “She is such a fierce competitor; I love that,” said Brian Orser, the coach of the two-time Olympic men’s champion Yuzuru Hanyu of Japan. “There’s a very youthful passion about her skating. She’ll find a little story and she embraces it and puts it out there. It’s not over the top, super-sophisticated stuff; it’s stuff for an 18-year-old.” Which means, he's obviously not put off by her miming and expressions!

Finally, doesn't surprise me what Kostornaia said - Zhenya was the 'big sister' for all those girls, including Alina. Trusova's Makkachin tissue box was given by Zhenya :)
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If I'm not mistaken, she even asked Sasha what she wanted from Korea before she left for the Olympics. Who does that? Who asks a rival-in-the-making, a potential replacement and destroyer of your dreams, what they'd like as a souvenir from your competition? It's like, "Ima kill you on the ice someday kid, but until then, here's a cute plushie from Japan." I kind of doubt if that's common in this sport.

OswinOswald said:
I had the same problem. Someone deleted a message so the thread didn't know how to react :laugh:



And when you add the injury and the olympic pressure... :drama:
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Yeah, that was addressed a little bit in the interview she did with Alexei Yagudin right after returning home from the Olympics. He understood the situation because of the parallels with his own history, and he managed to get more out of her than most interviewers. She mentioned watching Alina come up on her, realizing that she would overtake her, and that there was nothing she could do about it because of the injury. If she had tried to keep ahead of her, she only would have injured it worse and maybe missed the games entirely or ended her career, so she had to just "extinguish" the competitive fire inside her and do only what she was safely capable of. :sad4:
 
tomc100 said:
With all the top talents training together rather than competing against each other, it would be a much more friendly learning environment than what was going on under Eteri. I can't imagine training with all the pressure of competing against your skating partner, Alina and then worrying about the next generation of skaters coming up too. Switching coaches was her best decision. The only "scary" part is moving to Canada which is a lot more relaxed and can be distracting if you aren't focused on your goal.
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Dont let Eteris scowl throw you off. Its a competitive yet friendly environment and Zhenya was the leader and friendly with those training there. The girls all seem warm and friendly. Very polite too.

As for Zhenya it was time to leave and she made the bold move to do so.
 
50 Words for Snow said:
If I'm not mistaken, she even asked Sasha what she wanted from Korea before she left for the Olympics. Who does that? Who asks a rival-in-the-making, a potential replacement and destroyer of your dreams, what they'd like as a souvenir from your competition? It's like, "Ima kill you on the ice someday kid, but until then, here's a cute plushie from Japan." I kind of doubt if that's common in this sport. :
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I didn't know that, Zhenya is truly adorable!
 
I have seen the video of her last performance and it is incredible what she has “grown up” since the OG. She has definitely stopped being a teenager to be a woman. It will be necessary to see what effects it has on his skating.
 
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