Yuzuru Hanyu: 2017-2018
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The 3A is Yuzu's trademark, his ultimate back-up weapon, the most consistent jump (with the 3F), a GOE-goldmine and his closest friend besides Pooh-san. No way, he'll drop the triple Axel in the free.
And yes, it's obligatory for high BV.
It's much more likely that Plush decides to compete again
Adding one more revolution often influences triple technique. That's what I had in mind asking that question.
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I don't know, every jump is individual, but Yuzu had no problems to jump 4T and 3T, 4S and 3S in the same program and the 4Lo didn't have any major effect on his 3Lo either. (I skip the Lutz-discussion).
Apart from that Yuzu needs a rock solid 3A in his short anyway, since a 4A doesn't count as a required 'Axel jump'... because ISU
(okay Yuzu would have a massive advantage with 3 quads in the short...)He will be very careful and cautious with the 4A attemps that they never harm his 3A.
Hey, you never know, maybe if he moved 3Lz up as 3rd or 4th jump he'll have more energy to make it +5 quality :agree:.
As for the 4Lz, I'm sure Yuzu wants to be able to put it back in but it'll depend on how soon he can start doing loop, flip, and lutz again. Depending on his readiness maybe he'll re-integrate it into his program later in the season.
With the new second half bonus applying only to the last 3 jumps in the free, and no 4Lz, I can see a layout like this.
4Lo
4S or 4T
3F or 3Lz
3A
4S3T
4T2T
3A1Lo3S
This would put all the combos as jumping passes 5-7 and get the 10% BV bump, and is actually not too different from what he already attempts.
If lutz and loop both return, maybe something like this.
4lz
4Lo
4S
3A
4S3T
4T2T
3A1Lo3S
As for the SP, I think he may choose to stick with the 4T3T as the last jump for now until he's able to practice a more difficult combo.
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I don't know, every jump is individual, but Yuzu had no problems to jump 4T and 3T, 4S and 3S in the same program and the 4Lo didn't have any major effect on his 3Lo either. (I skip the Lutz-discussion).
Apart from that Yuzu needs a rock solid 3A in his short anyway, since a 4A doesn't count as a required 'Axel jump'... because ISU
He will be very careful and cautious with the 4A attemps that they never harm his 3A.
Wait... so a 4A doesn‘t count as a required Axel jump even though it is an Axel jump? ISU being ISU again, I guess.
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Aye, it doesn't. ISU reaching new hights againWait... so a 4A doesn‘t count as a required Axel jump even if it is an Axel jump? ISU being ISU again, I guess.
Only a 2A or 3A are counted as an Axel-jump at the moment. So... if Yuzu wants to do a 4A in his SP, he has to use it as the solo jump (no steps required anymore, but I'm 100% sure, Yuzu would do them
)4A
3A
4T+3T
I wonder, what would happen, if Yuzu popped the 4A into a 2A. I mean, that 2A would count as his Axel-jump then and he could go for a quad instead of the 3A, no?
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Wait... so a 4A doesn‘t count as a required Axel jump even if it is an Axel jump? ISU being ISU again, I guess.
:shocked: why is the ISU so dumb
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I want to be honest: I don't like 4-2 combos. The quad is so fast and huge, while the 2T appears just tiny and slow... as if the skater stands on the brakes after the quad.
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I kind of agree, a 4/2 is just not the same kind of wow factor for me. I'd actually prefer a solo quad to a 4/2, especially if you can give them really nice run-outs like Yuzu does. Go big or go home!! Though if it's the same point potential doing a 4/2 and a 3a/.5/3sal as it is to do a 3a/2toe and 4T/.5/3sal then I can understand the lack of incentive to do the latter.
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Sorry if this had been asked before but can someone please tell me when is the GPS assignments will come out? and Do you think Yuzu and Shoma will be at NHK? TIA 
I'm not a huge fan of 4-2 combos either, but points wise it works better to have the quads in combo if you do it in the bonus. Since we're talking hypothetical situations, here's some other crazy ideas:
4Lo
4S or 4T
3F or 3Lz
3A
4S3T
4T3Lo
3A1Lo3S
Or probably this is more likely as we've actually seen Yuzu try a 3A3Lo in gala practice.
4Lo
4S or 4T
3F or 3Lz
3A
4S3T
4T1Lo3S
3A3Lo
Here is the extreme of the extreme I can think of, given we've seen Yuzu trying out that 4S1lo4S and 3A3Lo in practice before. Crazy combos FTW.
4A
4Lz
4Lo
3A
4S1Lo4S
4T3T
3A3lo
Sorry if this had been asked before but can someone please tell me when is the GPS assignments will come out? and Do you think Yuzu and Shoma will be at NHK? TIA
I believe David Molina tweeted it'll be June 29.
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The last one, lol. 4A? 4Lz? 4Lo? 4S1Lo4S? Sure. No problem. Why not? If he actually did something like that, someone should march up straight away to him and hand him his future third consecutive OGM
The last one, lol. 4A? 4Lz? 4Lo? 4S1Lo4S? Sure. No problem. Why not? If he actually did something like that, someone should march up straight away to him and hand him his future third consecutive OGM
I have a dream that one day he'll throw in that 4S1lo4S and land it to become the first person to do a 4-4 combo. The rotation on the practice clip seemed good, but he fell on the end 4S so it seems possible (just like his 2S-1lo-4S).
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It was funny Alex was making jokes to Ms. Kobayashi from JSF twice
About combo, I'm interested in seeing Yuzuru doing Lo as the second jump in combo, but it may really depend on the layout and his state of foot.
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https://twitter.com/olympicchannel/status/1004837950968954885 about the gloves Yuzu will donate.
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