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Jason Brown

I've been advocating for a quad flip from Jason for literally years. His triple is so GORGEOUS and the height is so good that I really think he could do it.

My guess is there is too much fear it would mess with his beautiful 3F. But really I think it might be the best option. If the 4S is not awesome by worlds, I almost think his team would say "no more 3Fs in the program all 4Fs" and go all in. This way he only has to focus on the 4F, but if he pops it to a 3F... who cares? If there is no 3Fs planned... there is no fear of Zayaking or the like. So he could go all in with the 4F without fear of popping. He could just work on learning to pop it to a 3F so to speak, and really that would not be that costly. Nothing would fall apart, and it really would not cost him that much.
 
And Jason is skating in the gala....last:laugh: (well a Croatian synchro team is skating after him, but I don't count the "home" invitees)

And yes, I realize he won, and the gold medalists go last, but we know Jason always has a good spot in the gala no matter what;)
 
I tuned in just when Jason was starting his EX skate. He looked like he was having a blast out there. And the final melee looked like fun too. He gave Bradie a big hug and also Pipe Gilles. And then played the crowd for photos . Misha Kolyada, Sasha and Daniel horsed around out on the ice and it was nice to see Misha and Sasha smiling and having fun (though they were still falling on most of their jumps!) And there were actually people in the seats. I didn't see the rest of the EX, but it looked like everyone had fun.
 
Here's Jason's skate at the Golden Spin Gala. It looks like it was watered down a bit. Only 2 splits instead of 4 and at least one jump was doubled. Cute bit at the end with the little girl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr1dePqaOvk

The gala finale takes place right after Jason skates and he does two more split jumps when he's introduced at 6:07 so maybe he was saving them. The cute moment with Piper that Bookseller mentioned takes place at 9:37 after the first place finishers take a photo together.

Gala finale

Jason was (per usual) the crowd favorite. :hap85:
 
I've had about 2 hrs of sleep due to being determined to watch this last GPF day in full (more like a night in full in Poland tho :laugh:), but I still have skateflake's ask from Golden Spin threads to write some comparisons over seeing Jason's programs live in Grenoble and then at GS, though not in person :) and I think this is the time.

I think that the general trajectory of Jason and his programs are quite well, both competitions definitely solidified his SP and showed FS areas of improvement more clearly I feel. Seeing them live and then on my phone via stream provided two different perspectives and two different ways of appreciation.

As for perspectives of watching, a good thing about this over-the-head camera shots at GS was that it showed Jason's coverage, speed, agility over choreography, carriage, posture more clearly and methodicaly, like the general way he moves, which definitely helped to realize how fantastic skater he is and how well his skills are facilitated in both programs. Seeing it live in Grenoble, from more 'ground' perspective, a lot closer physically was more helpful in seeing/understanding his projection, expressiveness of body, gesture, attention to the detail in it, intricacies of his body motion, it was definitely easier to 'click' with his skating AND skating persona created on ice during performances, not just being amazed by the picture of it. GS upper camera shots also showed beautifully Jason's phrasing of music and lyrics by movement and expression, actually in both programs since in Grenoble my impression was that SP was fabulous in that departament while FS was a bit lacking of that definition by motion thing; at GS, in SP I saw again that 'sleek snap' to his movement finishing that was so prominent for me in Grenoble, and that sharp, bold accentuation of lyric/rhythmic layers of the song. I think also thst an overhead camera did a great job to show off how Jason exquisitely transitioned between more languid parts (mainly guitar solos) and sharper ones with lyrics, which moves/elements he used to express both and how he did it. It really confirmed muli-dimensional experience provided by this SP I had in Grenoble and added to my awe over Jason's sublime musicality, sensibility in reflecting different styles. Also, aerial shots provided a great appreciation view on his spins, speed of them, extensions and fluidity in position changes which may have been not that easy to catch sitting on the ground level. In general, taking both outings I feel that Jason got very close to perfection both times - he showed well-rounded, wholesome skating quality in the quantity of skill he possess and kept thst rich, high sophistication level around it; these performances showed also some effects of working with TCC crew: he doses expression and exuberance more deliberately, with more consciousness added to it that is present over every element in choreo, it is less outright flashy and open, more like matured version of total performer Jason is.

As for FS perspectives...while I got convinced in Grenoble that this is a good and prospective vehicle for Jason, GS confirmed that, adding some bits I did not see live. The phrasing through movement foremost and how Jason details these S&G pieces - both parts, lyrical and dynamic, have quite different structure/construction and require different level of care, deliberation and for me Jason does that without making the whole program appearing divided and non-matching. Some folks complain over the first part being a snooze - I get that, but at the same time it really challenges Jason to not make it feel like that: actually, already at Grenoble, I had this welcoming impression of nostalgia and reflectiveness seeing the beginning and how Jason expresses that piece of music, GS perspective added to it that once all jumps will be there, it will do the trick. Aerial camera showed off his lines, extension being reflection of these long notes and subtle cadence of lyrics. The second part is a great contrast - fast, energetic, lively and using that snap in movement, using spins as a form of expression that dynamic guitar, exuberance getting through step sequence which looked super crisp and detailed on footwork at GS stream, even from the distance. The first part is more about thoughfulness, the second about action I feel - and it is more about making simplistic, minimal things work their magic together than forcing some 'high' and hollier than thou artistry kind of thing - and it is a departure from Jason we got to know I think; folks got used to see him being 'glammed up' by choreo, the artistic notion strong in it to ofc use his natural abilities and skills, but also (my opinion) to maybe make up a bit for lack of quads/tech difficulty. Overall, it was a logical thing to do, but it left Jason's image a bit stangnant I feel - now, with this FS, he has a chance to show (and prove) that simpler creation can show off him equally strong and make his features/signature ID as a skater/performer shine even brighter and on their own, not because intricate choreo.

And the second bit about different ways of appreciation I realized between live experience in Grenoble and recent not personal one watching GS - while in Grenoble, I felt everything a bit over-emotional, since this was the first time seeing Jason live and me being a fan and I was more focused on soaking his presence, influence of it, how he engages the audience, emotes, interprets from this close standpoint, not really noticing that much technical intricacies; GS OTOH gave me more 'objective' and distant outlook on what I experienced - it made me appreciate his skill and intensity, quality he presented it with more emphasis on execution side, but feeling the same emotional attachment I felt in Grenoble (which kind of cemented my general view on this 'new' Jason and his materiał being fab). Also, appreciation for his musicality came out different - in Grenoble, it was more about becoming this music, getting that intense unity with it, accentuation of notes by mere flick of his fingers and resonating this deeply within me, just more personal, intimate experience of this aspect in his skating. Watching GS it was more about being amazed by fluidity, continuity and unhurried harmony between his body movement and music from that artistic point of view, how he made it work so effortlessly yet with power and understanding.

As you can see, the post is LONG and thanks for bearing with me :laugh:, it is just about these skaters I got deeply attached to like him or Piper and Paul-I can always come up with some new reflection watching them skate for nth time:).
 
The gala finale takes place right after Jason skates and he does two more split jumps when he's introduced at 6:07 so maybe he was saving them. The cute moment with Piper that Bookseller mentioned takes place at 9:37 after the first place finishers take a photo together.
Gala finale
Jason was (per usual) the crowd favorite. :hap85:

Thanks for the link! This was a lot of fun to watch.

NoNameFace I enjoyed your comparisons of the two comps and also the comments about the camera work. It was interesting to read your comments on Jason's speed because when I was watching his GS programs, I first thought someone had sped up the video because he seemed to be flying across the ice so quickly.
 
Thanks for the link! This was a lot of fun to watch.

NoNameFace I enjoyed your comparisons of the two comps and also the comments about the camera work. It was interesting to read your comments on Jason's speed because when I was watching his GS programs, I first thought someone had sped up the video because he seemed to be flying across the ice so quickly.

:)

The camera angle/broader perspective shown at GS sure helped to show off his speed and carriage through it, but to be honest it was the same in Grenoble, real time witnessing from stands - seeing him in one group practicing with e.g. Samarin really puts his speed in perspective, he is indeed like flying. His dynamics, quick transitioning between elements with keeping polish, attention to detail throughout it all is really setting him apart for me:)
 
He’s definitely gotten faster even from U.S. nationals earlier this year, but it’s eons from even 2016, when I saw him live at team challenge cup.
 
:)

The camera angle/broader perspective shown at GS sure helped to show off his speed and carriage through it, but to be honest it was the same in Grenoble, real time witnessing from stands - seeing him in one group practicing with e.g. Samarin really puts his speed in perspective, he is indeed like flying. His dynamics, quick transitioning between elements with keeping polish, attention to detail throughout it all is really setting him apart for me:)

What is notable about Jason (well among MANY things) is his speed and his ice coverage. I actually giggled when the cameraman at GS was trying to follow him, after following so many slow skaters, and Jason made a quick transition in one direction and the camera starting going off in the other direction that Jason had been traveling in. The cameraman was having trouble keeping up with Jason.

I was at Skate Canada and the improvement between SCI and GS is almost unbelievable. It's a completely different mental attitude and confidence. His comment that his short plays to his strengths and his Free challenges them, explains everything. He is now focused on the details of the Short and it is close to perfect. And he is meeting the challenges of the Free, but still working hard toward mastery. He says that the program will be very different by Nationals. I anticipate an enhanced step sequence (he keeps getting level 3s on that) and they will try to solidify the quad into the program, but if not some solid combos and high GOEs will be the goal. I've been positive about the S&G program from the beginning. Even before he skated it at Autumn Classic, I could "see" it in my mind. I did think that the more pensive section was a tad too long and that they could have extended the Hazy Shade of Winter to the Springtime segment of the music, ending very upbeat. And they may do that. But I feel that Brian and Tracy and David together are trying to calm him down, get him to approach the program systematically and deliberately, to avoid the panic that causes him to revert to his old technique and foul things up. And it's working! Jason is super competitive, and being surrounded with great skaters every day and working to maximize his potential, is definitely helping him to grow and mature as a skater. But it's a process and the aim is to reach "maturity" in 2022 if he can. The new scoring system is more than just point changes, it's about details, precision, consistency and Jason can nail that. The new system doesn't diminish quads, but it wants them to be executed correctly and with some style. And that plays to Jason's skills and talents and attention to detail. I am very optimistic.

NoNameFace, thank you for your observations and eloquence! I really enjoyed reading everything that you wrote.
 
I was at Skate Canada and the improvement between SCI and GS is almost unbelievable. It's a completely different mental attitude and confidence. His comment that his short plays to his strengths and his Free challenges them, explains everything. He is now focused on the details of the Short and it is close to perfect. And he is meeting the challenges of the Free, but still working hard toward mastery....

Thanks for sharing the comments about Jason's programs, especially your positive feelings about the long, as I still need a little convincing. :) It's been a great day for Sunday musings!

Did you all see the first pic of Jason's latest travelogue post? What a mature looking handsome young man! It's going to be hard not seeing him skate for a while, but I'm glad he has several weeks to prepare for Nats.
 
Thanks for sharing the comments about Jason's programs, especially your positive feelings about the long, as I still need a little convincing. :) It's been a great day for Sunday musings!

Did you all see the first pic of Jason's latest travelogue post? What a mature looking handsome young man! It's going to be hard not seeing him skate for a while, but I'm glad he has several weeks to prepare for Nats.

I did see the photos from Croatia and Slovenia. He definitely went from teen to handsome young man. On the ice, he's always been beautiful and graceful and exceptional. To me, Jason IS skating! He's everything I love about skating. There are other skaters I love too, but none of them as much as Jason.
 
Congratulations to Jason on his Golden Spin win! Good for him, and what a confidence booster. I've been so wrapped up in GPF that I forgot about a lot of other things, in particular how many Americans were skating at Golden Spin. He is such a hard worker, and already his new training environment is beginning to pay dividends.

Another thing I always admire about him, no matter how busy the competition time is (or how drained he might feel after competing), I love that he always makes time for a little bit of adventure in the countries he visits. Or sometimes that adventure consists of something having to do with his Ronald McDonald charity work. That's such a cool thing!
 
Thanks for sharing the comments about Jason's programs, especially your positive feelings about the long, as I still need a little convincing. :) It's been a great day for Sunday musings!

Did you all see the first pic of Jason's latest travelogue post? What a mature looking handsome young man! It's going to be hard not seeing him skate for a while, but I'm glad he has several weeks to prepare for Nats.

I was struck by that pic as well. He’s always had a really nice profile, but this - in addition to being a great pic - really shows that he’s a young man now. Other random thoughts:

Reading the comments from NNF and Mrs P about Jason’s speed and ice coverage, I started to laugh remembering that there was a time when people used to say he was slow. :)

Re his Golden Spin freeskate: it’s great he won! And great he fixed issues with second 3A and didn’t pop the 3Z this time. It seems to me that the flow of the first part is much better - he’s growing into it. Hopefully he will fix that problem with the loop because with the spiral exit it’s so beautiful, and it really puts a great end to that section.

I have to confess, though, that I’m kind of confused about their strategy jumpwise. I can’t figure out if the 3A-2T was planned or if it should have been a 3A-3T. If it was planned, then I don’t understand why he’s only doing a 2A to start instead of, say, a 3F to maximize points (either way, we know it’s a placeholder for a quad). Maybe by backing off on the tech just a bit, there is less of a struggle between the old and the new techniques? The good news is that the only place he really seemed to hesitate was before the loop, so that suggests that the new technique is becoming second nature. Anyway, I’m really pleased for him and looking forward to seeing where he’s at by Nats!
 
OK, I am going to go to my usual tiring rant about non-important things:

love the travelogue. love the new mature Jason. love (OK exaggeration, starting to like) the front part of the LP.

The IG photo from Bled, I think yesterday. A black heart!

:bang:
 
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Found this picture of Jason hanging out with Anastasiia Gubanova (on the left). She posted a few silly pics with filters on her Insta story but I can’t figure out how to post those here from my phone.

I’ve missed a lot of this season but I like that even though I haven’t seen Jason competing much his personality and kind nature keep appearing. I do wonder if he learned anything from Zhenya to help him interact with these two Russians? I’m pretty sure he won’t be looking to sample any of their drinks after what Zhenya gave him :laugh:

**other girl on right is Anastasiia Guliakova (4th Place)

***Anyone find pictures with him and Mariah?
 
Jason actually seems to get along with all the Russian ladies. Zhenya of course, but he’s taken photos Maria Sotskova and he took a photo with all the cutie juniors during JGPF/GPF last year. And I remember he and Adelina Sotnitkova had some fun pictures back in the day.
 
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Knowing Jason, he's probably working on his Russian. He hangs out with the Japanese Ladies too. He didn't hang out with Zhenya before she arrived at TCC. He said they barely knew each other. But they've certainly become good friends now. I've never noticed him hanging out with Mariah much. Once she left Kori, things probably changed. I'm sure that their friendly, but perhaps not friends.
 
Knowing Jason, he's probably working on his Russian. He hangs out with the Japanese Ladies too. He didn't hang out with Zhenya before she arrived at TCC. He said they barely knew each other. But they've certainly become good friends now. I've never noticed him hanging out with Mariah much. Once she left Kori, things probably changed. I'm sure that their friendly, but perhaps not friends.

I do miss the Jason/Mariah interactions, there was some even before she went to Kori and a lot when they were training mates. But yeah they become nonexistent in recent years.

I think the Russian ladies just like that he’s so upbeat, probably nice given the stiff pressure they’re all under. :laugh:
 
***Anyone find pictures with him and Mariah?
I wish there were! Since others have commented on this, I was saddened that Mariah deleted most of her Monument pictures from sm when she left. She and Jason appeared to be besties when she was there (or maybe that was just until she became occupied with Romain). They were together a lot and he spent time at her parents' house. Once she left there appeared to be no interaction, no pictures from events, her pics were gone. I was honestly hoping there would be something from Zagreb. It just seems like any hard feelings associated with her leaving or whatever, if there were any, should be gone by now. Just makes me a little sad.

The IG photo from Bled, I think yesterday. A black heart!
:bang:

Hey! I'm attributing that to the pic being in b/w! :laugh:
 
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