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Stephen Gogolev

Out of all the disciplines, junior and senior, Stephen's margin of victory was the biggest of this competition at 14.83 points. Another achievement to add to his growing list :agree:
 
so why the split with orser

It's my understanding that Stephen's parents felt that Orser wasn't spending enough time with their son, and since Barkell was already more attentive, they decided it was natural for the latter to be the main coach. Although Lee doesn't have Brian's "legendary" status, the former was Jeff Buttle's coach, a world champion and Olympic bronze medallist, so I'm confident that he'll help Stephen to be just as successful (and perhaps even more so?) in the future. :yes: The split with Orser must have occurred since at least the Ontario Sectionals, so I'd give credit to Barkell for the young man's historic JGPF win.

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On a completely different note, I just wanted to share an amusing exchange that I had with my mother about Stephen (she's strictly speaking not a fs fan, but does sometimes watch the highlights from the Canadian Championships, Worlds and the Olympics). Although I had told her about this skating prodigy starting from the beginning of last season, she wasn't motivated to watch his performances until she heard about his JGPF victory. As expected, she did consider him to be exceptionally talented for his tender age, but then she made a comment that I could never have foreseen: "And he's even a handsome boy on top of that. Future heartthrob." :laugh: I literally laughed out loud at her observation because my mother frowns upon celebrity culture (and she thinks it's utterly ridiculous that I participate in it), yet she couldn't resist complimenting his looks! Well, I guess we'll see in a few years whether her prediction will come true or not. (And considering how shy Stephen is, I think he'd panic if he were surrounded by a horde of fangirls! :p )
 
then she made a comment that I could never have foreseen: "And he's even a handsome boy on top of that. Future heartthrob." :laugh:

(And considering how shy Stephen is, I think he'd panic if he were surrounded by a horde of fangirls! :p )

This reminds me photos from the post-GPF banquet I found on Russian skaters instagrams. Looking at his face, you can say everything about Stephen, but not that he's shy with girls ;)

Here you have Alena's, Alexandra's and Polina's instagrams (please scroll to reach photos with Stephen). Polina even wrote that she made friends with Stephen and wished to see him again :).
 
so why the split with orser
It's my understanding that Stephen's parents felt that Orser wasn't spending enough time with their son, and since Barkell was already more attentive, they decided it was natural for the latter to be the main coach. Although Lee doesn't have Brian's "legendary" status, the former was Jeff Buttle's coach, a world champion and Olympic bronze medallist, so I'm confident that he'll help Stephen to be just as successful (and perhaps even more so?) in the future. The split with Orser must have occurred since at least the Ontario Sectionals, so I'd give credit to Barkell for the young man's historic JGPF win.

Just adding to this, I think Stephen started working with Lee first when he first came to the TCC. It was afterwards that Brian starting giving Stephen one-on-one lessons, before eventually being added as a main coach about 1-2 years ago. Honestly, if I may be slightly blunt, I think Brian bit off more than he could chew this season. I don't recall if he had ever taken so many new students all at once, and starting a new student/coach partnership takes a lot of effort and time since both sides need to get to know each other. Just this summer he has taken in Evgenia, Jason, Joseph, then recently, the new Russian turned Polish girl, and who knows if there are others who are lower profile or taken in on a seasonal basis. Then there's also his existing students, that new deal with the Chinese Federation, and not to mention he's also runs the TCC with Tracy (as head/managing coach I believe?). He's also been travelling almost every weekend and I can't see he's been spending much time at the TCC every week due to that. There's also a lot of media and PR obligations, and on top of that, Yuzuru just had another injury. Gosh it's crazy just listing all these stuff out, so I don't know how he's coping. He must be super human!

Personally, I think it's a smart decision for Stephen and I can't see much downside at this time. It's not like Stephen is leaving the TCC, so he still maintains all the benefit of being there. From what I've gathered, Stephen is also working with Tracy (on SS) and Ghislain (on jumps), so it's very much a group effort there. And if he wants, Stephen can always switch back to Brian when he's going senior, and hopefully Brian will have less on his plate by then. Not to mention, I don't think Brian is completely out of the picture since he personally oversees things at the club, so I'm sure he's involved, just not as the main guy. I recall recently that Brian led a stroking class with all the elite students, so ya, he's involved.

In some ways I'm actually slightly relieved?? I find that having Brian listed as a coach can bring a lot of extra attention. Lee keeps a much lower profile, and I think he tends to do a lot less interviews, if any at all. Meanwhile, no offense to Brian, but sometimes I think he talks to much. :laugh: That, and his words, actions etc. is constantly scrutinized by the media and fans. I mean, Stephen is already getting a lot of attention now just because of his age and the fact he just won the jgpf, but having Brian listed definitely adds to it I think. I also find Lee to be a much more calming presence in the KnC, while Brian seems to be more emotionally invested, which might not work for everyone (like Adam Rippon). I also agree that Lee is a great coach. I think people underestimate the work Lee has been doing with Stephen.

On a completely different note, I just wanted to share an amusing exchange that I had with my mother about Stephen (she's strictly speaking not a fs fan, but does sometimes watch the highlights from the Canadian Championships, Worlds and the Olympics). Although I had told her about this skating prodigy starting from the beginning of last season, she wasn't motivated to watch his performances until she heard about his JGPF victory. As expected, she did consider him to be exceptionally talented for his tender age, but then she made a comment that I could never have foreseen: "And he's even a handsome boy on top of that. Future heartthrob." :laugh: I literally laughed out loud at her observation because my mother frowns upon celebrity culture (and she thinks it's utterly ridiculous that I participate in it), yet she couldn't resist complimenting his looks! Well, I guess we'll see in a few years whether her prediction will come true or not. (And considering how shy Stephen is, I think he'd panic if he were surrounded by a horde of fangirls! :p )

Stephen is an adorable, handsome boy, and I agree with your mother that he has a high potential to be a future heartthrob. :biggrin: It's a bit weird though, I've been reading online comments and there are all these people who thinks he looks like someone else. So far I've read people who felt he looks like Macaulay Culkin from the Home Alone era, a young Sergei Voronov, and even a young Prince William. Most of these I'm just like :confused::confused:, he looks like none of them??? lol. It's like people keep comparing him to whichever blond person that comes to mind.

Stephen's experience with the press was super cute. I can relate to him so well, since I'm super shy and introverted too in person. But geez some of the questions they asked him....Like, how you expect a thirteen year old to answer that? That said, I thought he handled himself really well, despite the fact he looks like he just wants to hide under his sweater. haha.

This reminds me photos from the post-GPF banquet I found on Russian skaters instagrams. Looking at his face, you can say everything about Stephen, but not that he's shy with girls

Here you have Alena's, Alexandra's and Polina's instagrams (please scroll to reach photos with Stephen). Polina even wrote that she made friends with Stephen and wished to see him again .

Awww....I think it's so sweet to see all the pics of him with all the junior Russian girls. They probably flocked to him cuz he's such a cool dude. :cool: I kinda wish I could hear him speak Russian with them.

On a separate note, I adored Stephen's exhibition! :love: It was a totally different style of choreography for him and I liked the fact it brought out a bit of his fun side. Those hip hop lessons with Sam Chouinard paid off. The hyroblade into a spin is cool. Also, I hope it quieted some of the chatter about how artistically and musically stunted he is. >=( Seriously, all those people are blind. Like I can't be the only one who sees how he's actually been hitting a lot of the choreographic nuances in his SP and FP right? I mean he's got a long way to go, but he's doing great for his age.
 
This reminds me photos from the post-GPF banquet I found on Russian skaters instagrams. Looking at his face, you can say everything about Stephen, but not that he's shy with girls

Here you have Alena's, Alexandra's and Polina's instagrams (please scroll to reach photos with Stephen). Polina even wrote that she made friends with Stephen and wished to see him again.

So he's not shy around girls; it's just reporters and their TV cameras that intimidate him. ;)

Honestly, if I may be slightly blunt, I think Brian bit off more than he could chew this season.

ITA. When I heard of he was taking on several new students, I thought he was spreading himself too thin. There's no way he can possibly give everyone the time they deserve.

Personally, I think it's a smart decision for Stephen and I can't see much downside at this time. It's not like Stephen is leaving the TCC, so he still maintains all the benefit of being there. From what I've gathered, Stephen is also working with Tracy (on SS) and Ghislain (on jumps), so it's very much a group effort there. And if he wants, Stephen can always switch back to Brian when he's going senior, and hopefully Brian will have less on his plate by then. Not to mention, I don't think Brian is completely out of the picture since he personally oversees things at the club, so I'm sure he's involved, just not as the main guy. I recall recently that Brian led a stroking class with all the elite students, so ya, he's involved.

In some ways I'm actually slightly relieved?? I find that having Brian listed as a coach can bring a lot of extra attention. Lee keeps a much lower profile, and I think he tends to do a lot less interviews, if any at all. Meanwhile, no offense to Brian, but sometimes I think he talks to much. That, and his words, actions etc. is constantly scrutinized by the media and fans. I mean, Stephen is already getting a lot of attention now just because of his age and the fact he just won the jgpf, but having Brian listed definitely adds to it I think. I also find Lee to be a much more calming presence in the KnC, while Brian seems to be more emotionally invested, which might not work for everyone (like Adam Rippon). I also agree that Lee is a great coach. I think people underestimate the work Lee has been doing with Stephen.

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Stephen is an adorable, handsome boy, and I agree with your mother that he has a high potential to be a future heartthrob.

He's very endearing based on what I've seen in his recent interviews :luv17: , and yes, he's a good-looking kid, but unlike my mom, I wasn't ready to designate him as a "future heartthrob." (:rofl: Her comment still cracks me up because she's such a serious person, and I still can't believe she actually said that!) He's already getting a lot of attention for his skating, and I can't imagine what he might think if he ever saw himself on the cover of a teen magazine! An extrovert like Kurt Browning doesn't have a problem being a sex symbol during his heyday (this is when he still had hair, in case there are younger individuals who have only known him as a middle-aged bald guy), but for an introvert like Stephen, it would probably be very awkward.

It's a bit weird though, I've been reading online comments and there are all these people who thinks he looks like someone else. So far I've read people who felt he looks like Macaulay Culkin from the Home Alone era, a young Sergei Voronov, and even a young Prince William. Most of these I'm just like, he looks like none of them??? lol. It's like people keep comparing him to whichever blond person that comes to mind.

:scratch2: I don't think he resembles any of those celebrities, either.

Stephen's experience with the press was super cute. I can relate to him so well, since I'm super shy and introverted too in person. But geez some of the questions they asked him....Like, how you expect a thirteen year old to answer that?

I'm shy and introverted, too, so I also sympathize with him. He'll have to take some PR lessons because I'm sure the Canadian media will put him under the spotlight more frequently as his career progresses.

That said, I thought he handled himself really well, despite the fact he looks like he just wants to hide under his sweater. haha.

:laugh: It's as if his Skate Canada jacket wasn't large enough for him to bury himself in it! His nervous body language is cute.

Awww....I think it's so sweet to see all the pics of him with all the junior Russian girls. They probably flocked to him cuz he's such a cool dude. I kinda wish I could hear him speak Russian with them.

Perhaps not many fs fans outside of Canada know this, but Elladj is half-Russian and speaks Russian fluently. I actually wondered after the interview if he and Stephen might have had secret conversations that no one else on the Canadian team can understand. :p

On a separate note, I adored Stephen's exhibition! It was a totally different style of choreography for him and I liked the fact it brought out a bit of his fun side. Those hip hop lessons with Sam Chouinard paid off. The hyroblade into a spin is cool. Also, I hope it quieted some of the chatter about how artistically and musically stunted he is. >=( Seriously, all those people are blind. Like I can't be the only one who sees how he's actually been hitting a lot of the choreographic nuances in his SP and FP right? I mean he's got a long way to go, but he's doing great for his age.

I love his exhibition, too! :love: It's a "lighter," relaxed style than his "heavy," intense competitive programs, and I think it suits him very well. I'm also annoyed that some fs fans dismiss Stephen as "just a jumper." :disagree: It's obvious from my current avatar that I'm a big Sadovsky fan, but I gotta say that I actually prefer Stephen's musicality over Roman's when the latter was 13. IMHO, Stephen and his team seem to understand more fully what kind of a skater he is, and he has the right music and choreography to showcase this. In contrast, Roman's programs in the 2012-2013 season didn't fit with his lyrical, fluid style.
 
Here's the British Eurosport version of his exhibition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUbdR5zEDpg

TDP coverage which is in 1080p: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lT5RWR4UAk

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My father normally doesn't care about figure skating, but even he was curious about Canada's golden boy-genius, so I showed him the JGPF videos. His reaction was, "WOW, this kid is so good! And he's more handsome than my grandson!" :laugh2: (My nephew is a few years younger than Stephen, so that's not a fair comparison, but I'll admit that the former is currently "pretty" rather than "handsome.") Oh dear, if my parents---who usually don't waste their breaths on "silly celebrity culture nonsense"---felt it was necessary to mention that Stephen is good-looking independently of each other, I suppose he's destined to be a "future heartthrob." ;)
 
Entries are up for Canadian Nationals, and Stephen is listed among the senior men's competitors! https://skatecanada.ca/2019-canadian-tire-national-skating-championships/

It's a pretty competitive group imo. Stephen's best for the season (233.58) is almost tied with Roman Sadovsky (233.86), and is higher than Keegan Messing managed at Rostelecom (220.75, although his season PB is 265.17). Nam Nguyen is other men's skater to watch (PB 240.94). Should be an interesting competition!

I can't lie, I love them all and I really hope Keegan is able to overcome the problems he had in his last two Grand Prix events and skate to his best, but I'll still be cheering for Stephen to make the podium!

Men's short program is the evening of Friday, Jan 18 and the free is split into two batches on Saturday Jan 19, groups 1-2 in the early afternoon and the last group in the evening.

siberia82, glad that you're on the mend and thanks so much for all your updates to this thread!
 
Happy 14th Birthday, Stephen! :hb:

Entries are up for Canadian Nationals, and Stephen is listed among the senior men's competitors! https://skatecanada.ca/2019-canadian-tire-national-skating-championships/

He has been competing as a senior nationally since last season, and I had the privilege of watching him skate in person at last year's SC Challenge when he was still 12 years old. If you go back far enough in this thread, you should be able to find my fancams of his performances.

As expected, he'll be in the final group for the SP at Nationals: https://lamp.skatecanada.ca/results/2019cdn/2019CDNSSeniorMenSP1SO.pdf

It's a pretty competitive group imo. Stephen's best for the season (233.58) is almost tied with Roman Sadovsky (233.86), and is higher than Keegan Messing managed at Rostelecom (220.75, although his season PB is 265.17). Nam Nguyen is other men's skater to watch (PB 240.94). Should be an interesting competition!

I can't lie, I love them all and I really hope Keegan is able to overcome the problems he had in his last two Grand Prix events and skate to his best, but I'll still be cheering for Stephen to make the podium!

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siberia82, glad that you're on the mend and thanks so much for all your updates to this thread!

Since Mango no longer participates in this forum's discussions (which includes Stephen's Fan Fest), I thought I should contribute more to this thread. :)
 
Happy Birthday Stephen!! :hb:

lol at him being a future heartthrob, but I can totally see it - he’s so adorable!

Hope 14 years old is a great year for this amazing prodigy!
 
Happy Birthday to future hearthrob Stephen! :hb: :yahoo: Haha. Hopefully, your next year will be as fruitful and exciting as your last one.

Since Mango no longer participates in this forum's discussions (which includes Stephen's Fan Fest), I tshought I should contribute more to this thread. :)

And thank you Siberia for all your contributions and updates. You've been an absolute gem. :agree:
 
CBC aired the GPF Exhibition Gala several hours ago, and Stephen's performance was included, so I believe this is the first time a full program of his was shown on national television. :thumbsup: The commentary is exactly the same as the livestream version (except that the discussion beforehand and the replay were omitted), so I don't think it's necessary for me to share the video, but if someone really wants it, then I'll be happy to do so. He also appeared in the following two segments during the broadcast:

JGPF Canadian Skaters Summary (720p): https://streamable.com/yikmk

Season's Greetings (720p): https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6ze47e I wonder why he didn't speak in Russian.



lol at him being a future heartthrob, but I can totally see it - he’s so adorable!

Happy Birthday to future hearthrob Stephen! :hb: :yahoo: Haha.

:rofl2: I don't know if my mother would be flattered or mortified that her label for Stephen seems to be quite popular!

And thank you Siberia for all your contributions and updates. You've been an absolute gem. :agree:

Awww, that's so sweet of you to say. :luv17:
 
Stephen is still very young and he has a bright future ahead of him.
I am sure his parents want the best for him. And he still trains along with the best skaters in the world.
He is definetly in a good place.
 
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