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2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating

Nobody from this group of harsh critics here actually cares for the well being of these girls. This is just an excuse for attacks. They would be very pleased to see them fail because it would fit their narrative.

Anyway. It's better to ignore all this posts and comment on what is actually relevant and important for russian ladies, and not on some false information, taken out of context and used for bashing and shaming!

IMO, nobody in this group of enthusiastic supporters cares for the well-being of these girls. They would be pleased to see them fail or succeed - doesn’t matter as long as they win a few medals before they lose their jumps and/or are sidelined by injury or have to seek treatment for an eating disorder. They will be replaced by other ladies who will win more medals.

Honestly I just want skaters to be healthy. That is more important than medals.
 
IMO, nobody in this group of enthusiastic supporters cares for the well-being of these girls. They would be pleased to see them fail or succeed - doesn’t matter as long as they win a few medals before they lose their jumps and/or are sidelined by injury or have to seek treatment for an eating disorder. They will be replaced by other ladies who will win more medals.

Honestly I just want skaters to be healthy. That is more important than medals.

Here's my opinion with that.

Until you can't prove that other coaches (specifically in Russia) treat skaters better, it's hard to criticize Eteri, or wishing skaters to leave her cause what she does could be a standard: after all Eteri herself learnt a lot from previous successful coaches.

This is what Tarasova said earlier this season:

"Radionova is out of shape. She has a good program but she experiences difficult puberty. Her fatness doesn't allow her to work, and she can't deal with it yet, because she eats."

https://www.sport-express.ru/figure...-goreli-glaza-seychas-etogo-ne-vizhu-1455463/

Based on all previous interviews my general idea is that this is a problem of Figure Skating in general, so wishing skaters to move elsewhere is not a solution. The only coach (at least in Russia) who cares about healthy skaters and keep them successful is Alexei Nikolayevich Mishin, and he coaches a very big group of athletes already.

Not only that but i believe lots of things top skaters do in general (like spirals, certain spin variations, and even more speed and lightness in your skating...), wouldn't be possible with more weight, with healthier diets. That's the harsh reality of so many sports.
 
Depends what you mean for "Russian". Citizenship or nationality.
Zagitova is of Tatar origin but having Russia's citizenship.

But that republic(or territory) are part of the Russian Federation thus they give the golds the results for Russia. Lizbet was born in Moscow she has kazakh origin but she compete for Kazakhstan. Big different.

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Happy B-Day to one of my favorite pandas!! Serafima is 19yrs old today!! :hb:

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happy birthday! :hb: I like her, too!
 
Not only that but i believe lots of things top skaters do in general (like spirals, certain spin variations, and even more speed and lightness in your skating...), wouldn't be possible with more weight, with healthier diets. That's the harsh reality of so many sports.

If anybody is overweight that skater not only can jump but easily gets injured in this sport. And for ex in rhythmic gymnastic, too.
 
How will EG keep the Fab 4 happy in the next year or so? Once Alina won the Olympics Zhenya had one foot out the Sambo 70 door. If one of the 3a surpasses the other 2 next season how will the other 2 and Alina handle it? That is the question. These girls are warm and classy and have little ego but they are very young human beings receiving daily input from parents and managers.

If Alina wins the worlds there is a big chance that she will retire next season...unless there will be a big puberty hit on 3A. I just don't think Alina will be motivated to go on if 3A squeeze her out of the Russian team, her the Olympic champion who beat Medvedeva, Osmond, and Miyahara in their prime.
 
If Alina wins the worlds there is a big chance that she will retire next season...unless there will be a big puberty hit on 3A. I just don't think Alina will be motivated to go on if 3A squeeze her out of the Russian team, her the Olympic champion who beat Medvedeva, Osmond, and Miyahara in their prime.
If she win and that's a big if. I personally hope she dont retire because she can show much more personality on ice, than what she has showed us. She can explore more type of music/programs etc. Sure she might not be on world team next season, but who knows what will happen? Ice is slippery. If she manage to get her jumps back post puberty which i believe she can and skate clean she will still got big score, even if not competing at Euro/World, medalling at GP/GPF is still a good result. But if she did want to retire then i support her too.
 
I don't think it's (always) a concern. (often) Some people try to use demagoguery for their personal reasons.

Definitely more than three. Last year there was 11 in senior and junior, and some big names like Kostornaia, Panenkova, Gubanova, Tarakanova, Shcherbakova and Trusova competed last year too.

Depends what you mean for "Russian". Citizenship or nationality.
Zagitova is of Tatar origin but having Russia's citizenship.

Citizenship.
 
Senior Ladies SP in Dragon Trophy just finished

Liza Tuk fell on her 3A< , she also made a turn between her 3T-3T but land a big nice 3Lz and got 65, she look like her early season form, not bad but the fire is not there yet.

Guliakova though... pop the axel. She had problem with her music/some kind of interruption which gave her -3 deduction. the protocols only listed 5 elements instead of 7 missing solo jump and a spin and scored 46. she did land fully rotated 3A in warmup even though the landing was not so good.

I hope both ladies can put nice freeskate tomorrow.
 
Senior Ladies SP in Dragon Trophy just finished

Liza Tuk fell on her 3A< , she also made a turn between her 3T-3T but land a big nice 3Lz and got 65, she look like her early season form, not bad but the fire is not there yet.

Guliakova though... pop the axel. She had problem with her music/some kind of interruption which gave her -3 deduction. the protocols only listed 5 elements instead of 7 missing solo jump and a spin and scored 46. she did land fully rotated 3A in warmup even though the landing was not so good.

I hope both ladies can put nice freeskate tomorrow.

Guliakova stopped in the middle of the program. She had some issues
 
Looks like Russian Ladies thread has crawled into the 4CC world.
A good piece of Russia belongs to Asia. 2/3 likely.
 
Here is the medal ceremony for the FC.


Nice result for Kazakhstan and Elizabet.
And Eteri, Sergey and Daniil, of course. One can only guess at the anguished gnashing of chompers going on in certain quarters :biggrin:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eabZ11z9SCw

My former opinion of LittleBit is that she was so pokey. Now, after time with Eteri, her jumps are bigger, her conditioning is better, she skates with speed!-still a work in progress, but a far better skater. How much of this is the environment of superstars or the Eteri team, who knows.
 
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