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Is Vincent planning on taking time off for college, or will he be doing both at the same time?
2018-19 U.S. Men’s figure skating
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I don't think he will be taking time off. On the pre-Nationals media call, Phil Hersh asked if he had applied anywhere early action. Vincent replied that he did, but couldn't disclose if he had been accepted or what schools.
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I'm really impressed with the group of Asian-American skaters for their abilities to excel both on and off the ice! I remember seeing photos of Karen Chen studying for standardized exams after skating. With Nathan handling school and competition, and Vincent possibly doing the same, I'm just so happy for them!
I agree with you. It is clearly Nathan and then Vincent. The real question to me, is who will be #3 after next year. There are so many juniors moving up. Tomoki has momentum and you have Camden (if he can get his jumps together). I love Jason, but the #3 spot may be a little open if he can't get his free skates in order.
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The American men were the class of the field. They beat the Japanese men clearly. They are young with great skaters coming up. The future is bright regardless of whether Brown gets a quad or not.
I love Tomoki and am a big fan, but let’s keep in mind his recent momentum came after two years of struggle where he placed 12th and 15th at nationals . Not to mention that he had struggled at the JGPF.
Jason was actually improving on the free skate (though not perfect) — starting out at like 138 something at ACI and got al the way up to 172 at 4CC. And he still got a PB in the SP. I don’t think it’s a foregone conclusion *yet* that Jason is going to lose USA No. 3.
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Even if he's skating more consistently, Camden does not so far have a quad. So I would be surprised to see him overtake Jason right away. He has no tech advantage on Jason.
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Little bit early for me to endorse that as a prediction, but I agree it is certainly possible.
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Cool thing for Vincent and his choreographer Josh Farris 
:
Random FYI for those with nostalgia for old IceNetwork articles:
Good luck to all at Egna Spring Trophy this week.
Esp. to Torgashev. :yay:
And belated Happy Birthday wishes to Camden, who turned 19 yesterday.
ETA:
:Video of their new exhibition program was uploaded to the official YouTube channel of 88rising, the record label of artist Joji.
100,000 views and counting.
The video title as written by 88rising:
(When reacting on Instastory to this recognition, Vincent in turn used the
emoji.)
100,000 views and counting.
The video title as written by 88rising:
The description is:
(When reacting on Instastory to this recognition, Vincent in turn used the
emoji.)ETA:
88rising and Vincent both used the crying emoji, in case it does not show up here within GS. For me, sometimes it does and sometimes it does not.
From 88rising's Instagram post (with video excerpt): "... Vincent Zhou made us weep with this. …"
Go, Vincent and Josh. :yay:
From 88rising's Instagram post (with video excerpt): "... Vincent Zhou made us weep with this. …"
Go, Vincent and Josh. :yay:
ETA:
And now Joji has tweeted a video excerpt of Vincent's exhibition: https://twitter.com/sushitrash/status/1110651752750055424
Random FYI for those with nostalgia for old IceNetwork articles:
Just discovered that figureskatersonline.com saved PDFs of some of them. 
I am mentioning at this late date in case anyone else was not aware.
For instance, one of the many links on the news page for Nathan's site is for IN's article about his 2010 novice title.
The news page for Jason's site has links to his old blogs for IN, as well as articles such as the 2012 joint interview of Josh and Jason.
I am mentioning at this late date in case anyone else was not aware.
For instance, one of the many links on the news page for Nathan's site is for IN's article about his 2010 novice title.
The news page for Jason's site has links to his old blogs for IN, as well as articles such as the 2012 joint interview of Josh and Jason.
Good luck to all at Egna Spring Trophy this week.
Esp. to Torgashev. :yay:
And belated Happy Birthday wishes to Camden, who turned 19 yesterday.
ETA:
I would like to give respect to ALL skaters who juggle school and training/competition.
Asian-Americans are not the only ones.
(I do think that Nathan is succeeding at both at a particularly high level.)
(Although I myself happen to be Asian-American, I am well aware also of very admirable scholar-skaters who are not Asian-American.)
Asian-Americans are not the only ones.
(I do think that Nathan is succeeding at both at a particularly high level.
) (Although I myself happen to be Asian-American, I am well aware also of very admirable scholar-skaters who are not Asian-American.)
Tomoki has long term potential but he's struggled with inconsistency in the past so I would expect him to have some growing pains in his debut senior season. I kind of want to see what Alexei does because he's historically been a lot more consistent than Tomoki.
I know it’s not exactly what you’re saying, because you're talking about the level of difficulty, but this reminds me:
In the past, I personally have felt that TES and PCS should be completely separate and technical mistakes shouldn’t have any impact on the PCS and vice versa.
(Unless of course, a skater is visibly shaken after having made mistakes and allows the program to fall apart with a sloppy, rushed execution of everything or let’s say, the performance is considerably muted and the skater absent, things like that)
But from what I have seen, most people seem to feel that badly executed technical elements should indeed have an impact on several of the components.
Because messy spins/jumps or falls disrupt the performance and composition of a program, and impact the interpretation negatively. Some even feel that falls on jumps should lower the points for skating skills, which in my mind should be the most consistent component throughout programs.
As I said, I don’t necessarily share this opinion (I am a bit undecided right now, actually) but if we agree with the above logic, that PCS is actually intertwined with TES in that way, then we also have to accept that well executed technical elements (effortless, secure, holding the tension) enhance a performance and the presentation of a program, and should therefore increase the PCS, no?
But my impression is, that the majority of people readily accepting this idea. There seems to be this mindset, that every skater has a sort of fixed 'base value' of PCS that reflects their current abilities and that they will get when clean, that we can detract from if things go wrong, but we shouldn't go any higher when certain elements are done very well on that day.
That has been my impression at least, which is partial of course, because I don’t read that many threads
That being said, it’s clearly what happens at every competition…
The obvious problem with this is that the base level of skater's PCS is determined by what happened before ("reputational" PCS, medals, etc.).
However, when that previous high (or low) level of PCS had nothing to do with reality, but instead reflected the previous judges' bias - we can get sky high PCS for mediocre skating, and low level PCS for beautiful skating.
It's very unfair, when previous biased judging carries over into influencing current and future results, by artificially inflating or deflating a skater's PCS.
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For anyone in/near Juneau, Alaska:
In case this article was not posted on GS yet:
(At this point, Tomoki has returned to training mode in Colorado.)
ETA:
Jordan Moeller and Courtney Hicks are on the ground in Juneau to perform as special guest skaters on Apr 6 (tomorrow) at Juneau Skating Club's spring show.
Sounds like a cool opportunity.
Sounds like a cool opportunity.
In case this article was not posted on GS yet:
After Unexpected World Junior Title, Hiwatashi Expects Confidence to Follow
https://usfigureskatingfanzone.com/...ts-confidence-to-follow.aspx?path=figureskate (Mar 29)
https://usfigureskatingfanzone.com/...ts-confidence-to-follow.aspx?path=figureskate (Mar 29)
(At this point, Tomoki has returned to training mode in Colorado.)
ETA:
This just in: Ross Miner will return to Skate It Forward on June 22 in Ohio.
(Previously announced for this year's show: Alysa Liu and Romain Ponsart. More announcements to come, no doubt.)
(Previously announced for this year's show: Alysa Liu and Romain Ponsart. More announcements to come, no doubt.)
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I know I shouldn't be jumping the gun, but ....
Tim Dolensky is not on the list for the USFSA International Selection Pool :sad21:
https://www.usfigureskating.org/story?id=84156&menu=TeamUSA
His latest IG post, showing a lovely Caribbean (South Florida is the Caribbean, isn't it?
)Sea, said "Here's to new adventures"
Yes, skaters can be added at any time, but I can't help but think we may have seen the last of those gorgeous headless scratch spins.
If so, :sad21:
Tim Dolensky is not on the list for the USFSA International Selection Pool :sad21:
https://www.usfigureskating.org/story?id=84156&menu=TeamUSA
His latest IG post, showing a lovely Caribbean (South Florida is the Caribbean, isn't it?
)Sea, said "Here's to new adventures"Yes, skaters can be added at any time, but I can't help but think we may have seen the last of those gorgeous headless scratch spins.
If so, :sad21:
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Tomoki as part of a group interview this morning to promote Showtime On Ice:
Good luck to Nathan and Vincent at WTT. :yay:
Re the ISP list:
https://youtu.be/5lqYablLMY0 (Apr 10, 6:10)
Good luck to Nathan and Vincent at WTT. :yay:
Re the ISP list:
Hope that Lucas Altieri gets a JGP assignment. 
He is a great performer and a good kid. For those going to Liberty this year, I suggest that you keep an eye out for him (based on his past participation). If I didn't have a schedule conflict this year, he would be high on my watch list.
He is a great performer and a good kid. For those going to Liberty this year, I suggest that you keep an eye out for him (based on his past participation). If I didn't have a schedule conflict this year, he would be high on my watch list.
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I don't know. Jimmie Santee was saying Tomoki's Nationals performance was the best he had ever seen Tomoki skate, and that Tomoki is from his neck of the woods and Jimmie had seen him skate a lot. Of course if he can maintain that quality..maybe.
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