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I think being the top Japanese junior lady headed to Junior Worlds is/would be a very good result for Tomoe. I don't think it's that uncommon for the junior ladies to place well at Japan's senior nationals. Wakaba finished 2nd & 3rd at Senior Nationals while she was still a junior & went to Junior Worlds. Tomoe is age-eligible, but she doesn't have the kind of track record in juniors that would make a federation want to pin their hopes for a Worlds berth on her performance there. It's worth remembering that these young ladies come into Nationals with the knowledge that they don't have senior minimums & that their main challenge is to place high among the junior athletes & make the Junior World team. She did that. It is a great outcome for her. And it isn't the same type of pressure as the favorites face.

I'm thrilled for Wakaba. Am so happy to see her on her way back! Perhaps I am naive, but I would think the World team will be Rika, Wakaba, and Satoko.

I am curious to see what the Japanese Federation decides to do about 4CCs. GPF placements are often taken into account when dividing up assignments, but this year there are no athletes that qualified for the GPF who did not finish on the podium at Nationals. In which case, I'm not sure if the federation will choose to divide placements unless there are athletes that prefer not to go to 4CCs. The location is very close to Japan this season. Might be more difficult for Satoko? Anyway, I could see all three top senior ladies attending. Or I could see Japan sending Yokoi (for the experience) or Sakamoto (based on previous results). We will find out.
 
Random Q from me: It's cool that Rika did the 3A+3T again in her FS, but I'm a bit puzzled why she did that. The base value is higher if she does 3A+2T in the first half and 3F+3T in the second half. Has she been struggling with the 3F+3T? Or is it to show that she can do 3A+3T (but other 3A skaters can't/don't)? :confused:

I actually think it may have been a bit strategic. She wanted to compare the GOE on her 3A+3T to the GOE she gets on her 3A+2T. Rika gets great GOE in her single axels but not on her 3A+2T. The jump combination looks too easy and so the judges don't reward her for its true difficulty. It may make more sense for her to do 3A+3T if she gets higher GOE on that combination compared to the slight BV advantage she gets backloading the 3T.
 
Here to express appreciation for Rin Nitaya's FS. Hers is one of the few I've seen so far. What a way to conclude her competitive career, simply beautiful! And after such a difficult season as the previous one, too. A pity she won't compete anymore. Does anyone know what happens to the funding she's now entitled to? Does she still get it, or do skaters only get the support if they don't retire before new bios are published?
 
These are the messages that JSF would send with their final two Worlds selections:

Higuchi/Miyahara: Nationals are important
Higuchi/Kawabata: Nationals are REALLY important
Miyahara/Sakamoto: Nationals mean nothing unless you win
Miyahara/Kawabata: We hate Wakaba
Sakamoto/Kawabata or Higuchi/Sakamoto: We have no idea what we're doing
 
Random Q from me: It's cool that Rika did the 3A+3T again in her FS, but I'm a bit puzzled why she did that. The base value is higher if she does 3A+2T in the first half and 3F+3T in the second half. Has she been struggling with the 3F+3T? Or is it to show that she can do 3A+3T (but other 3A skaters can't/don't)? :confused:

Kihira’s been struggling with the 3F+3T. She URed it at least once in the SP and visibly URed the landing on the combo in the NHK free skate. You probably didn’t notice the landing at NHK the first time watching, but you’ll notice it when going through the skate again. She also fell when attempting the combo at GPF. Her 3F is fine, but she’s been having a hard time with the second jump for whatever reason. Funnily enough, the 3A+3T looked just fine to me, but the 3T was called UR. Tough crowd.
 
Yuhana is eligible for 4CC. Selection criteria for that is different from Worlds.

In that case, maybe? Japanese fed likes going by nationals results... I can see them replacing Kawabata because of her junior status/ lack of TES minimums. But, who knows?

Miyahara and Sakamoto really didn't make a strong case for themselves all year. But, Kawabata, Higuchi, and Yokoi while very talented are also inconsistent.
 
Funnily enough, the 3A+3T looked just fine to me, but the 3T was called UR. Tough crowd.

Shizuka Arakawa called it underrotated on the replay commentary. Looked obvious to me once she pointed it out.

Speaking of commentary, I love how Fuji TV provides a no commentary audio subtrack. I appreciate the commentary, but it's also great to go back and experience the performances as the people in the stands do.
 
Can someone who knows the goss explain to me why Satoko changed coaches?

Isn't Mie Hamada very good at teaching jumps as evidenced by Rika?

Seems peculiar to change coaches when your old coach is a jump expert and your ex training mate is a top rate jumping bean (I say jumping bean fondly, love Rika to bits).
 
I am so happy for Wakaba, whether she gets chosen to go to Worlds or not. I loved watching her skate well - she is one of the greats, and so nice for her to do an excellent programme here at Nationals. Of course, Rika was better (who had a wonderful skate, at least in my view), but for Wakaba to be on the podium again after all her troubles. Yay!
 
If I'm not mistaken Satoko dind't left Mie due to that controversy but because she wanted to improve her technique with another coach coz after many years with Mie Hamada, her hjumps has not improven and she plans to learn difficult jumps as 3a and with the technique she currently has its almost impossible. Plus, since when JSF follow their selection criteria? duh
 
These are the messages that JSF would send with their final two Worlds selections:

Higuchi/Miyahara: Nationals are important
Higuchi/Kawabata: Nationals are REALLY important
Miyahara/Sakamoto: Nationals mean nothing unless you win
Miyahara/Kawabata: We hate Wakaba
Sakamoto/Kawabata or Higuchi/Sakamoto: We have no idea what we're doing

No. If they send Miyahara and Sakamoto to Worlds the message would also be "we hate Wakaba".

In 2017 Wakaba had the most impressive GP season but she wasn't chosen for PC because somebody else got Silver at Nationas. If they don't pick /her/ for her own Silver now, JSF would be showing absurd favoritism.
 
No. If they send Miyahara and Sakamoto to Worlds the message would also be "we hate Wakaba".

In 2017 Wakaba had the most impressive GP season but she wasn't chosen for PC because somebody else got Silver at Nationas. If they don't pick /her/ for her own Silver now, JSF would be showing absurd favoritism.

JSF is not a single, unchanging entity. Selection members have changed since 2017, and they may have a different mindset that has nothing to do with hating Wakaba. Selections only take the current season's results/happenings into account.
 
Can someone who knows the goss explain to me why Satoko changed coaches?

Isn't Mie Hamada very good at teaching jumps as evidenced by Rika?

Seems peculiar to change coaches when your old coach is a jump expert and your ex training mate is a top rate jumping bean (I say jumping bean fondly, love Rika to bits).

I don't think Hamada is particularly good or bad at teaching jump technique. As with Eteri, each of her students has a different jump technique which is often the result of their previous coach. Rika is rumored to have been the last student of a famous long- term coach where she learned her fundamentals before moving to Hamada. Hence her perfect lutz/ flip.

Satoko learned to jump in the opposite direction in the US before being forced to jump in the other direction in Japan. Hamada's students do rotate fast (as do Eteri's) but I don't think Hamada focuses on the height of jumps. This is fine for a naturally talented jumper like Rika who is capable of effortless gaining height when she needs it, but perhaps not for Satoko who needs to gain strength in her legs/ height on her jumps. Gaby Daleman is a power jumper. Perhaps Satoko wanted to learn how to jump with power. ( or perhaps she was just sick of being yelled at and having her hair pulled)... anyway change takes time... it was evident based on her results last year that Satoko was going to be left behind if she didn't make a change in her jump technique... change leads to inconsistency at first but hopefully it will pay off in the long- term.. it will take a year or two
 
No. If they send Miyahara and Sakamoto to Worlds the message would also be "we hate Wakaba".

In 2017 Wakaba had the most impressive GP season but she wasn't chosen for PC because somebody else got Silver at Nationas. If they don't pick /her/ for her own Silver now, JSF would be showing absurd favoritism.

Exactly, JSF don't follow their own selection criteria, or they just hate Wakaba, or both, that's why there is a lot of possibilities about the next competition selections, if they don't choose Wakaba for worlds then... :dev2:
 
JSF is not a single, unchanging entity. Selection members have changed since 2017, and they may have a different mindset that has nothing to do with hating Wakaba. Selections only take the current season's results/happenings into account.

No they don't, if they take the current season's results since 2017, then Wakaba must have went to 2018 winter olympics
 
Exactly, JSF don't follow their own selection criteria, or they just hate Wakaba, or both, that's why there is a lot of possibilities about the next competition selections, if they don't choose Wakaba for worlds then... :dev2:

They will choose Wakaba. JSF loves to go by national results. The one who might be out is Kawabata.
 
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