2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[flanker]

Only time will tell if alina will have a comeback. I hope so too. But all this skater with great names and achievements didn't comeback after "taking a break". That are the facts, sorry

If only time, why it was you? Your claims are not based on facts, BTW, Alina definitely is not first who made a break (apart from those mentioned let's remember great Katarina herself, for her they even changed the rules so she could return from professionals to competitive skating ). And, just like she said, she did not come anywhere, she didn't terminate her trainings. I have said it already, let's suppose she would be at RusNats and wasn't apponted for Euros or worlds. What would be the difference? One single competition which for you is somehow unsurpassable obstacle.

 

[halulupu]

If only time, why it was you? Your claims are not based on facts, BTW, Alina definitely is not first who made a break (apart fromt hose mentioned let's remember great Katarina herself, for her they even changed the ruiles so she could return from professionals to competitive skating ). And, just like she said, she did not come anywhere, she didn't terminate her trainings. I have said it already, let's suppose she would be at RusNats and wasn't apponted for Euros or worlds. What would be the difference? One single competition which for you is somehow unsurpassable obstacle.

It wasn't me but the mighty tarasovsa my dear friend

 

[flanker]

It wasn't me but the mighty tarasovsa my dear friend

Don't hide behind Tarasova's skirts and use your own mind. Tarasova is no deity.

 

[halulupu]

Don't hide behind Tarasova's skirts and use your own mind. Tarasova is no deity.

Well you better read my posts again. I made my analysis with my own mind.than you argued that alina will return than i backed up my opinion with tarasovas opion. U might not like, still she is TAT and has some experience with girls who are "making a break"
But u can disagree of course.

 

[Mishaminion]

Well you better read my posts again. I made my analysis with my own mind.than you argued that alina will return than i backed up my opinion with tarasovas opion. U might not like, still she is TAT and has some experience with girls who are "making a break"
But u can disagree of course.

TAT has only opinion

Alina has said herself she is not retiring. That might change depending how she feels but for now that is what she herself has said.
That weighs more than anyone's opinion.

 

[Albus]

It is hard to believe that there are still people who take Tarasova seriously

 

[Amei]

Errrr Yuna Kim left competitive figure skating then returned.
Mao Asada retired then came back, though she did not have much success on her return.

Completely different situations, Yuna Kim and Mao Asada were clearly the cream of the crop for not only their countries but their skating discipline when they 'retired' and were still the cream of the crop for their countries when they came back - Russia is far more competitive and Alina was already surpassed by her training mates when she announced her break.

I don't think it's a matter of losing weight. She can do that now. I've never seen her do a 3A or quad outside a harness, so I think it would be hard to master something like that at this point in her career.

Like it or not, Alina's opinion and we can assume her coaches as well, is that she needs to lose weight to be able to safely train the quads/triple axel. If her coaches don't think she is at the right conditioning level to train the elements then they are not going to let her practice them.

 

[flanker]

Well you better read my posts again. I made my analysis with my own mind.than you argued that alina will return than i backed up my opinion with tarasovas opion. U might not like, still she is TAT and has some experience with girls who are "making a break"
But u can disagree of course.

Statement is not an analysis. You have an opinion, OK, but that opinion has nothing to be backerd by, not even Tarasova's opinion, that's not making your statement right. Also Tarasova is not unbiased authority here, she made many comments about Alina, often wrong. If she compares Alina with Adelina or Elena, those two truly ceased their trainings and so, Alina didn't. Wrong comparison.

Your original statement was Alina's come back is very unrealistic. Fist, she is not even leaving, so what comeback. Second, Alina is missing one Rusnats, so I'm asking what would be the difference if she would have attended it and then maybe had no competiton till the beginning of the next season. Third, I'm asking what is the obsdatcle that makes Alina's comeback "unrealistic", if she is still training. Instead of useless calling for higher might Tarasova I would expect logic.

The only thing that would make Alina not competing anymore would be her own will not to compete, but you and Tarasova somehow presume there is some objective obstacle that in fact doesn't exist.

 

[halulupu]

TAT has only opinion

Alina has said herself she is not retiring. That might change depending how she feels but for now that is what she herself has said.
That weighs more than anyone's opinion.

Her opion has more value than all of our opinons in this forum together. Athletes prepared marketing speeches written by their agents need to be interpreted. I hope you are not as naive to believe every single word an athlete, their coaches and of course TAT is saying.

 

[starlight97]

This comment is very off topic and some might call shallow and irrelevant but I just wanted to ask: Why the heck are all the Russian ladies beautiful haha? Do you guys think the coaches actually use this as a selection criteria behind closed doors, like they do in rhythmic gymnastics?
I just saw the draw and especially Alena and Evgenia look like straight up models.
Just a small positive assertion among the drama

 

[DSQ]

Those skates are destroyed, Scott. She is not wearing new boots for the fun of it. Her old boots broke today and she had to get new skates, even a model she usually does not skate in (she got Ice Fly skates today, usually she skates in Pianos)

Don’t skaters usually have three pairs of skates on the go? New ones for training, broken in ones for competitions and old ones for practice? Like ballet dancers.

That sucks for Med that this has happened.

 

[Mishaminion]

Her opion has more value than all of our opinons in this forum together. Athletes prepared marketing speeches written by their agents need to be interpreted. I hope you are not as naive to believe every single word an athlete, their coaches and of course TAT is saying.

I'm basing my opinion on Alina's own words and not just on a prepared speech either...her interviews and social media too. Why shouldn't anyone believe what she says? You might as well call her a liar...wth.

I see no reason for her to lie about her decision, even if she changes her mind and later says "I've decided to retire" it doesn't mean she never intended to come back.

 

[Lunalovesskating]

Don’t skaters usually have three pairs of skates on the go? New ones for training, broken in ones for competitions and old ones for practice? Like ballet dancers.

That sucks for Med that this has happened.

No, skaters usually do not carry more than one pair with them. Skating boots and ballet boots are different things. Ballet shoes for professional dancers are usally thrown away each day, sometimes twice a day, as they usally only last one performance and then are worn out. Skaters usually wear only one pair of boots for a few months and only one pair as they break in each pair until it fits them perfectly.
If I remember correctly Nathan Chen (during the 18 season) and Javier Fernandez (during the Olympics) also had no back up boots after Nathan destroyed his old boots and had to go to a competition with complete new ones and Javi lost his pair of boots in transit and had no back up and had to buy new ones.

 

[halulupu]

Statement is not an analysis. You have an opinion, OK, but that opinion has nothing to be backerd by, not even Tarasova's opinion, that's not making your statement right. Also Tarasova is not unbiased authority here, she made many comments about Alina, often wrong. If she compares Alina with Adelina or Elena, those two truly ceased their trinings and so, Alina didn't. Wrong comparison.

Your original statement was Alina's come back is very unrealistic. Fist, she is not even leaving, so what comeback. Second, Alina is missing one Rusnats, so I'm asking what would be the difference if she would have attended it and then maybe had no competiton till the beginning of the next season. Third, I'm asking what is the obsdatcle that makes Alina's comeback "unrealistic", if she is still training. Instead of useless calling for higher might Tarasova I would expect logic.

The only thing that would make Alina not competing anymore would be her own will not to compete, but you and Tarasova somehow presume there is some objective obstacle that in fact doesn't exist.

Well call it statement than if u prefer. I still believe based on past examples alinas return is very unrealistic. The term unrealistic actually doesn't exclude a comeback[emoji6]

 

[sk8kirsty]

Does anyone know what UK time the senior ladies short programmes will be at Russian Nats?

 

[thexfireball]

Does anyone know what UK time the senior ladies short programmes will be at Russian Nats?

https://twitter.com/swanyooh/status/1209004014475464705?s=21

12:30-15:00

 

[sk8kirsty]

https://twitter.com/swanyooh/status/1209004014475464705?s=21

12:30-15:00

Thank u!!

 

[halulupu]

I'm basing my opinion on Alina's own words and not just on a prepared speech either...her interviews and social media too. Why shouldn't anyone believe what she says? You might as well call her a liar...wth.

I see no reason for her to lie about her decision, even if she changes her mind and later says "I've decided to retire" it doesn't mean she never intended to come back.

[emoji85] I give up

 

[sk8kirsty]

Don’t skaters usually have three pairs of skates on the go? New ones for training, broken in ones for competitions and old ones for practice? Like ballet dancers.

That sucks for Med that this has happened.

Not necessarily. I have experienced both, I was a competitive dancer for 10 years but then gave it up for figure skating.
In dance, I had many different types of shoes, most of which would last at least a year. But pointe shoes (which I assume is what you were talking about) last for very little time, as you have correctly stated.
Professional ballerinas usually get new pointe shoes after every performance or just about. Me however, not a professional ahah [emoji28], I would get new pointe shoes every... 3-4 weeks I'd say.
Skates on the other hand, I have had my current boots for a year now and they're still holding strong [emoji13] I may have to get some new ones soon but considering the fact that I skate 4 times a week, they've been pretty good. This being said, when you talk about this I am guessing you are referring more to professional skaters in which case you would have to get new skates more regularly. I am just doing doubles and working on (failing on) 2A, 3S and 3T. No where near any decent triples or quads [emoji23]

 

[Casual]

I'm basing my opinion on Alina's own words and not just on a prepared speech either...her interviews and social media too. Why shouldn't anyone believe what she says? You might as well call her a liar...wth.

I see no reason for her to lie about her decision, even if she changes her mind and later says "I've decided to retire" it doesn't mean she never intended to come back.

It may be a white lie (i.e., one meant not to deceive but to protect).

And it may have at least two reasons. First, formal retiring might jeopardize sponsorships. Second, "retiring" after a disastrous skate looks like humiliating quitting, while "taking a break" in the same situation is much gentler on one's psyche, since it's framed as reassessing/healing/moving forward.