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LOL. Honestly, who cares about Yana Rudkovskaya in this forum? Who cares about the other members of Russian show business you don't like? Weird.

I don't know about "this forum" but Russian fs community definitely does care about Rudkovskaya.
 
(...) because both 'artists' Tutberidze and Gleikhengauz were negatively accented in the farewell messages, while 'technicians' Dudakov and Rozanov were praised, however Dudakov still got slighted.

It's all in your head. You present it as a fact, but it is an interpretation, nothing else. And one more word to "it was not about Sasha". Obviously you are not concerned with Sasha either, because otherwise, now that the decision has been made, you would not be constantly talking about the apocalypse, but would give her courage and support her. But you're only interested in #teamtutberidzeforwhatever. And one more thing. Figure skating is a business for Eteri too and Sasha was equipment that can be used to get medals. Anyone who denies this is either mercilessly naive or a propagandist.
 
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LOL. Honestly, who cares about Yana Rudkovskaya in this forum? Who cares about the other members of Russian show business you don't like? Weird.
I care. Rudkovskaya is embodiment of bad taste, meanness, arrogance and vulgarity, all the things I don't wanna see close to figure skating.
 
I don't know about "this forum" but Russian fs community definitely does care about Rudkovskaya.

Yes. Why? She is not athlete and the sport.ru forum allegedly is about sports. The forum standard has gone down in last years. She is from show business, and I'm sure most of the haters would be happy if they were Rudkovskaya.
 
First post-Corona quad down.
Tuktamisheva tried today 4S but crashed.
Video available at sport-express.ru
 
It's all in your head. You present it as a fact, but it is an interpretation, nothing else. And one more word to "it was not about Sasha". Obviously you are not concerned with Sasha either, because otherwise, now that the decision has been made, you would not be constantly talking about the apocalypse, but would give her courage and support her. But you're only interested in #teamtutberidzeforwhatever. And one more thing. Figure skating is a business for Eteri too and Sasha was equipment that can be used to get medals. Anyone who denies this is either mercilessly naive or a propagandist.

As for me, I would like to encourage Sasha, but to me it is like encouraging the captain of the Titanic after his ship has hit the iceberg.
 
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Sasha Trusova and the Contract with the Devil, or how the brand “Pupils of Tutberidze” differs from the brand “Russian Show Business Heavy DeLuxe”

All last year I admired our beautiful skaters. The hegemony of Trusova, Shcherbakova and Kostornaya was so obvious that it caused delight. And the fact that the girls are so different from each other, so individual, and the beauty in this dissimilarity gave their competition an unprecedented intensity of passions. I had suspicions that one of the three of them could not stand such a struggle ...

But the departure of Sasha Trusova from Eteri Tutberidze still felt like a bolt out of the blue. And yes, I could understand everything. The hardest rivalry within the group, the bad season. These are all objective reasons that can prompt an athlete to take such a serious step. I do not like to put stamps on people, I always try to understand why a person made this or that decision. I even understood the departure of Zhenya Medvyedeva, and if not for her further words and actions, I would continue to support her. But Zhenya left while already two-time World Champion, who lost the most important battle. She left at the time of the strongest blow to her vanity (and with her ambitions and understanding that the ultra-si generation was growing up behind her, it really was like death). And she went to Orser. A famous coach, who led to the Golden awards of the largest tournaments, not a single skater. (or more than one, the original text is unclear to me)

And Sasha just left after one “unsuccessful season”, in which she collected Bronzes at all the largest tournaments, she left having almost all quadruples and an almost ready triksel in the arsenal. And to whom? Leavingr for Mishin, Vodorezova, and at least for Harutyunyan, if our coaches did not want to take an athlete from Khrustalniy to them, realising what anger would fall upon them in case of failure, I would understand. But she moved to the Academy of Plyushenko’s Angels, and no matter how ironic it seems — she signed a contract with the devil.

I was inspired to write this article by an interview with the IG Trusova Team, which after watching made me want to shout: "Sasha, how can you do this! Do you really not understand that for the sake of earning a couple of three figures in dollars, Rudkovskaya will make you go through all nine circles of the hell of the Russian show business?"

I will never believe that 'little attention' was paid to her in the Tutberidze group. And a recent interview with Sima Sakhanovich, where she says that “While riding with Eteri Georgievna, I felt care and protection,” confirms my point of view.

Especially indicative of this moment for me is the video from the show where Gleikhengauz circles on the ice with Sasha in his arms. When she didn’t get her crown quadruple for a long time,
she jumped him until the moment it worked out in the skills battle. But she was clearly annoyed by her failures. Everyone has long known what a maximalist Sasha is, so in order to distract and amuse the girl the trainer just grabbed her in his arms and swirled.

Watch this video from 9-10 minutes: https://youtu.be/xzDV8Pe7GI4

Will Plyushchenko also carry Sasha in his arms? Considering that he and little GnomGnomich do not indulge lightly in affection, the answer is obvious. And it makes me sad.

Maybe Sergey Rozanov, whose strong coaching shoulder so often helped her in the past? But he has the Zhilina sisters, who are fully considered his athletes. He will obviously bet on them. After all, no matter what further heights Sasha might reach, a distinctive “Tutberidze train”, unneeded by Rozanov, would still trail her. And as time has shown, he is extremely ambitious and is unlikely to want to invest too much effort in "not his product".

If it works out - very well, it not - she did already come with the wrong technique and a broken psyche.

But it was a digression. The cry of the soul of the author. You could even say that my first thoughts were described above after I learned about the transition.

Awareness of much more terrible things came much later. When watching Sasha’s interview with Kommandnaya.

Eteri Georgiyevna is a proud woman who knows the value of herself and knows the value of her beautiful students. There is this photo shoot, then a feature in Tatler, a contract with Shiseido. This is the level that our girls deserve! They are admired by the whole world.

Athlete of Tutberidze is a brand.

They appear on the covers of world famous magazines, such as Yuliya Lipnitskaya and The Times. Famous brands sign contracts with them- Alina and Shiseido. They are admired by world celebrities - again Yuliya and Steven Spielberg or the same Trusova and leader of the Muse group, Matthew Bellamy. Figure skaters of Tutberidze is an international recognition, like Diaghilev's “Russian Seasons”. She makes stars out of the athletes and selects contracts and offers that correspond to their status.

But what about Rudkovskaya? This is a woman from the services and entertainments of Sochi. Like in that bearded anecdote, where a resourceful Armenian had a poor monkey photographed with tourists for another three days after his death. And it hurts so much that Sasha straight from the cover of Tatler goes "taking pictures with the curious." But she is not a monkey! She is a world star, the “Russian Rocket,” who deserves the best.

But no. Now Sasha will advertise English schools, shoot Tik Toks with GnomGnomich and, again, with poor GnomGnomich, labour in the mines of the Plushchyenko shows. And sport has nothing to do with it. After all, this is his business.

And knowing that Yana Rudkovskaya is far from a first year rookie in show business and has a whole army of lawyers, I’m afraid that the contract with the Trusov family was signed in such a way that Sasha will only flutter in Plyushchenko Angels' paradise without wings and without any prospects in sports.

It hurts, it's a shame. I really hope that it will not turn out this way. But previous experience so far has shown that not one single "Angel" has taken off ....

(c) koheyri
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From: https://www.sports.ru/profile/1036042537/

IMO excellent blog posting that fully corresponds with my feelings. Mr Trusov, what have you done?

Honestly I sort of agree, though I would put it less bluntly. I don't think going to Plushy's was the right decision. I don't doubt that he has potential, but so far he is unproved. And if you point me towards Titova, well she's been there since she was 10 and never really got any real attention from Eteri either.

As for the little attention in the Eteri group, I think maybe Sasha and her parents didn't like that she was no longer the favorite in the group. Now it is Anna. But times have changed since Sima's time in the Eteri group, she now has a lot more skaters vying for attention from her, Dudakov, and Gleikhengauz. USually in her photos there are only 8 in her group. And it seems like maybe after Euros, Sasha was "demoted" to the younger kids group with Rozanov. In today's time with so many girls and boys wanting to get into their group, someone like Sima probably wouldn't have gotten in despite all her talent and ability.
 
Skaters go back on the ice. When will the "Battle of Titans" begin?

Skaters yearned for ice during the self-isolation, now they begin training for real. What can they and us expect from the new season?

Skaters his Academy were sent by Yevgeniy Plyushenko sent to Kislovodsk. On June 1, they will begin full training there. At the base in the mountains, the 15-year-old supergirl, two-time World Champion among Juniors, Aleksandra Trusova, will come out on the ice.

In May, her transition from Eteri Tutberidze to Yevgeniy Plyushchenko shocked the world of figure skating. The very young Veronika Zhilina and coach Sergey Rozanov also left for the Olympic Champion. Someone even talked about the beginning of the “Clash of Titans”, a large and open confrontation between a coach, who built her extra-class monopoly from scratch, and a two-time Olympic Champion with serious financial capabilities.

However, skirmishes between them have happened before. Recall at least the December battle in social networks. Then, after a sudden announcement of a break in the career of Olympic Champion Alina Zagitova, Plyushchenko suggested that she could continue her career, but with a different coach and would soon return to the competition. Tutberidze in response accused Plyushchenko of luring athletes. According to her, Plyushenko tried to persuade Zagitova to train with him. The Olympic Champion retorted that if he wanted to “lure” someone, then his authority and resources would be enough for an impressive list, for a complete TeamPlyushchenko with good salaries and large sponsorship contracts.

By the way, some experts admit that the girls went to the Plyushchenko because of money. Eteri Tutberidze herself, commenting on the departure of Aleksandra, noted that good athletes and specialists will always be invited and offered more favorable conditions.

And on the other hand, transitions in figure skating are common, said three-time Olympic Champion, State Duma deputy Irina Rodnina in an interview with Radio Sputnik.

“ Figure skaters have the right to change coaches and schools. We have spring, May, and this is the official transition period from rink to rink, from coach to coach, all within the framework of the required rules, and usually this is the individual approach of the coach and the athlete. These are the contracts and agreements between an athlete and a trainer and plus the federation, so this is an absolutely normal business approach. These children and these trainers have long been working on a professional basis. "

Some experts note that with the advent of Aleksandra Trusova, a new stage in the development of the "Plyushchenko's Angels" Academy may begin. Sasha’s new coach himself admitted to the media that working with her is the main challenge in his career, he will prepare Trusova for the 2022 Olympics in Beijing and for the sake of this he will refuse ice shows and advertising tours to the maximum.

Others respond in response that history may be partially repeating itself. After all, once Plyushchenko put serious hopes on the Olympic Champion Adelina Sotnikova, who was one of the first to come to his team. But to big sport, she ultimately did not return and became an actress in his shows.

In any case, the skaters finally go out on the ice and start preparing for the competition. At the rink, it will become clear who is who.

(c) Ольга Гаврилова
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From: https://radiosputnik.ria.ru/20200530/1572195618.html

Backlog of interesting articles accumulated during my stint in the penalty box. I'll not interpret each and every 'talking head's response to the transfer. Let competitive season begin and we'll find out soon enough.
 
Perhaps, but not necessarily. I am certain the Trusovs have Aleksandra's best interest in mind. Both short term, i.e. her Olympic chances, and yes, perhaps her future in ice show business for the intermediate term, a couple of years after 2022 (or a even a few shows before the Olympics), or even permanently, who knows? I stand by my observation that Aleksandra can be the highlight of every ice show built around her, she has this star quality.

The rumour that two other parties rejected Aleksandra makes me sad, so according to himself, Plyushchenko kindly took her in.

The trainer-athlete relationship in #TeamTutberidzeForProgress is built on complete mutual trust, and the Trusovs found probably that Aleksandra was not given enough/proper attention. The peculiar behaviour of both Aleksandra and the trainers at 2019 Russian Nationals now tells tales and seems like the breaking point. it graces both parties they continued in full in the build up to the World Championships, Aleksandra's sporting character especially stood out to me.
"Why didn't you keep her in Juniors for one more year?" now was replaced by "Why did you give her the wrong programs and made her fall?", because both 'artists' Tutberidze and Gleikhengauz were negatively accented in the farewell messages, while 'technicians' Dudakov and Rozanov were praised, however Dudakov still got slighted.

We'll see how it all pans out for Aleksandra. The pandemic is still not under control in Russia, which means working with outside specialists, meeting parents, siblings and relatives in closed off training camps, travelling to competitions, even competitions themselves are all very uncertain. It certainly won't be easy for both kids and adults. Are there even female trainers around in Kislovodsk to attend to the particular needs of girls?

Words that were a lie and that came from vengeful woman, who not only never said a single good word for any skater that left her, but on the contrary - she bashed them all- Shelepen, Lipnitsakaya, Medvedeva, Pitkeev, etc. For each of them she found very "nice" expressions. For Tsurskaya she even invented genetic condition, which was refuted by Polina's mother.

Her team proudly continued this course of behavior with Sasha. But, yes, we didn't hear much of her herself, so yes, it could be more coming and we can expect "Why did you give her the wrong programs and made her fall?" As we saw, for her one year is nothing to continue to bash..

And the complete mutual trust you claim with such certainty for that club, is obviously neither complete nor mutual. And if the trust is broken, then in my opinion, best way is for all parties to separate. As for the shows, so Tutberidze Team does not drag athletes to shows? Тhey actually have their own. Not to mention Alina, who did not retire from competitive skating, but also did shows.
 
As for me, I would like to encouradge Sasha, but to me it is like encouradging the captain of the Titanic after his ship has hit the iceberg.
Pessimists like you Eteri would fire on the very first day.
 
Next season will be interesting. Alena will be 17yo, Anna and Sasha 16yo.
From what we've seen ~17yo is usually when they start to struggle
 
Next season will be interesting. Alena will be 17yo, Anna and Sasha 16yo.
From what we've seen ~17yo is usually when they start to struggle

I hope Alena can be different because I think she is so so special, but when people say that we are being unreasonable or critical of success it's really just written in history....

How did the last two European champions in their first senior season do in their second senior season? A little rough, the brilliance and the talent had to be dug out behind struggles, growth, and struggling jump technique. We'll see how these young girls can cope. I worry for Sasha most, because although she is very strong and athletic, she still very much has the body of a child. And she relies on quads to win, so I worry for when she grows. I hope her strength will carry her through and outlast some before her.
 
Next season will be interesting. Alena will be 17yo, Anna and Sasha 16yo.
From what we've seen ~17yo is usually when they start to struggle

This season, everybody will struggle because of all the measures to keep them safe and healthy under the pandemic which is still not under control in Russia. There is an age rule in effect which limits older staff even to attend the trainings. When strictly adhering to isolation and social distancing measures making training difficult and cumbersome. The limited occupancy FFKKR training camps can be isolated from the outer world better than the city rinks in Moscow, Sankt Peterburg and the other bigger cities. Here, kids, trainers and staff need to travel by private and public transport home and back, mix with the population, breaches will occur and whole rinks be put in 14 day quarantine again when this happens.

No official FFKKR rosters and calendar yet, when Open Test Skates are around the usual date, there should be enough time to get skills back in order, but learning new skills while staging completely new programs in all their complexity and details when you cannot bring in external choreographers etc in every day?
 
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