2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[lopsilceci]

I also wonder about what Aliona said about Eteri for ISU awards - did Eteri ask her to do that?

I’m also not sure if Aliona left or if Eteri kicked her out...

Yeah right... Eteri gave her new programs and then was like "umm I changed my mind, you're out!!" Seems totally reasonable :thumbsup:

 

[lopsilceci]

So eteri needs to talk badly about every good skater that leaves her? Is it necessary to put things from years ago into this post

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Talk badly? She made a point that both Yulia and Evgenia at one point asked for privileges and didn't get them, so why would they give them to Aliona now?

 

[Fluture]

Yeah right... Eteri gave her new programs and then was like "umm I changed my mind, you're out!!" Seems totally reasonable :thumbsup:

Of course... but why did she word it like that in her instagram post? It makes no sense but that‘s literally how she wrote it, with all the “she had a list of skaters non grata that‘s why we parted ways with her“. Making it sound as if it was THEIR decision all along, not Aliona‘s. Only to then reply in the comments that it was decided - by Aliona herself - two months ago. The whole story in itself is terribly inconsistent and simply illogical. I want a statement from Plushenko and Aliona but I fear that, especially the former‘s, will only confuse things further.

 

[Scott512]

When I recall that several months ago I was just interested whether Plushy's team would be able to make Stanislava Konstantinova consistent...

Poor Stasya. Damn.

Please don't confuse your imagination with reality! Repeating and repeating an statement made out of thin air does not mean that it comes true at some point.
In addition, your constant provocations towards Trusova will become boring in the long run.

Awww I like Sasha and that hasn't changed. But she changed and aliona changed, If Eteri is too rigid and treat everybody the same and really does take 40% of what her pupils earn then she has a problem on her hands.

The smartest and most far-sighted girls, Anna and Alina, stay with Eteri, which makes me happy!

For sure they are the smartest girls and they have Killa Kamila waiting in the wings. Until one of plushenko contacts ($pies) gets ahold of Kamilla's parents and make certain promises.

I still like all these girls a lot. They deserve our support and they are not traitors in anyway. Their careers are so short and if they can make more money away from EG and that's the deciding factor so be it. Didn't Alina almost leave for Plushenko too?

 

[Scott512]

Then why did she word it like that in her instagram post? It makes no sense but that‘s literally how she wrote it, with all the “she had a list of skaters non grata that‘s why we parted ways with her“. Making it sound as if it was THEIR decision all along, not Aliona‘s. Only to then reply in the comments that it was decided - by Aliona - two months ago. The whole story is terribly inconsistent and simply illogical. I want a statement from Plushenko and Aliona but I fear that, especially the former‘s, will only confuse things further.

The way I take this is It's almost like EG expelled aliona the best and most beautiful figure skater in ladies figure skating. Did she do this through a fit of rage because she was still pissed off at Sasha leaving? You can't expect 14 year old 18 year old girls and young ladies to stay the same through all those years. Aliona was even saying what a great person EG was just a couple weeks ago. This really doesn't make sense and now plushenko has the most beautiful figure skater aliona and the highest scoring potential figure skating and Sasha the quad Queen. He better not butcher this or they will send him to Siberia.

 

[Lechat]

Poor Stasya. Damn.

Awww I like Sasha and that hasn't changed. But she changed and aliona changed, If Eteri is too rigid and treat everybody the same and really does take 40% of what her pupils earn then she has a problem on her hands.



For sure they are the smartest girls and they have Killa Kamila waiting in the wings. Until one of plushenko contacts ($pies) gets ahold of Kamilla's parents and make certain promises.

I still like all these girls a lot. They deserve our support and they are not traitors in anyway. Their careers are so short and if they can make more money away from EG and that's the deciding factor so be it. Didn't Alina almost leave for Plushenko too?

Alina doesn’t need Plushy to make money.

 

[Fluture]

The way I take this is It's almost like EG expelled aliona the best and most beautiful figure skater in ladies figure skating.

Yes, that‘s how Eteri‘s post sounds like. But then, in her comment she literally says Aliona herself decided to leave and that it was a decision that was made two months ago already. Which version to believe? I guess we can choose...

 

[Finley]

It's no secret that apart from Alina of the three aces I was a fan of Anna the most (and the juniors Kamila, Daria, Maiia and Sofia), but in those times I would not claim anything with any certainty, esp. who stays where

And as a sidenote, as if there was not enough drama, I, after years, was truly forced to make my insta account, because newly I couldn't find anything there without a profile: I was resisting long, but all resistance was useless at the end

Liking this post because you were forced to make an insta account.

 

[lopsilceci]

Of course... but why did she word it like that in her instagram post? It makes no sense but that‘s literally how she wrote it, with all the “she had a list of skaters non grata that‘s why we parted ways with her“. Making it sound as if it was THEIR decision all along, not Aliona‘s. Only to then reply in the comments that it was decided - by Aliona herself - two months ago. The whole story in itself is terribly inconsistent and simply illogical. I want a statement from Plushenko and Aliona but I fear that, especially the former‘s, will only confuse things further.

From Google Translate, since I don't speak russian, I understood it as "Aliona asked to be given more individual attention and we said no, so that was the end."

Daniil also said the same thing in his video, that Aliona recently revealed to them that she had made a deal with Plushenko some time ago. Maybe they just discussed it with him and only recently made the final decision to leave? Otherwise, it would look really bad on Aliona to have gone to Novogorsk, gotten programs, done the ISU awards and Olympic Channel interviews and making it seem like she was happy with her coaches, while keeping it a secret all that time that she had already decided to leave.

 

[Finley]

Of course... but why did she word it like that in her instagram post? It makes no sense but that‘s literally how she wrote it, with all the “she had a list of skaters non grata that‘s why we parted ways with her“. Making it sound as if it was THEIR decision all along, not Aliona‘s. Only to then reply in the comments that it was decided - by Aliona herself - two months ago. The whole story in itself is terribly inconsistent and simply illogical. I want a statement from Plushenko and Aliona but I fear that, especially the former‘s, will only confuse things further.

The only thing that makes sense to me is that Eteri was trying to explain why she thought Aliona made the decision to leave back in May. At some point, Aliona, (or her parents) asked Eteri for whatever it was she thought would benefit her training. Eteri said no, that's not how we do things. Time passes. Aliona (or her parents) make(s) the decision in May to do what they believe is in her best interest. Possibly because of Eteri's refusal to accommodate her request not to share ice with certain skaters, maybe for financial reasons, more than likely it was some combination of factors that influenced the decision. It's never just one thing.

They decide to wait to tell anyone until the last minute. Maybe they weren't 100% convinced they were doing the right thing and needed more time to be certain. Maybe they wanted to take full advantage of the Novogorsk training camp. Maybe they were giving Team Tut a chance to change Aliona's mind about things.

 

[flanker]

Liking this post because you were forced to make an insta account.

Not only that. I'm truly angry at Aliona, Eteri and everyone. This afternoon (and whole weekend) I originally reserved for watching some movies I was still putting off. If this was necessary, couldn't that wait till monday at least?

 

[Finley]

Not only that. I'm truly angry at Aliona, Eteri and everyone. This afternoon (and whole weekend) I originally reserved for watching some movies I was still putting off. If this was necessary, couldn't that wait till monday at least?

You call yourself an Alina fan but only made an insta for Aliona. I see how it is! :dev2:

 

[flanker]

You call yourself an Alina fan but only made an insta for Aliona. I see how it is! :dev2:

You think I am two-faced? OK I will make my coming out, I'm going to Plushenko as well

 

[dunffvanstorn]

According to a source familiar with the situation, the main reason for the transition was the opportunity, with Plushenko's assistance, to sign a lucrative advertising contract.




also Dani G video

https://www.instagram.com/p/CDT8xI9oLtN/

tldr: In May, team Tutberidze went to the training camp in Novogorsk. Alena was the first to have both programs choreographed and seemed to like them and enjoy them. In July, she suddenly began training poorly and arguing with the coaches. Then, she informed them that she had decided in May to leave the team. Daniil was shocked and told her he couldn't believe it. It turned out to be true. She will now train with Evgenii Pluschenko.

What does he say in the video?


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[dunffvanstorn]

Lol this blows me away. Sasha wanted to get the away from the most beautiful skater in the world and now she's going to be training with her again everyday. Damn! Tough luck for the quad Queen!

The Russian Federation never should have allowed this move at this stage in the off season. You might even say they are playing Russian roulette with future results internationally. They went from having the strongest women's team ever in ladies figure skating to who knows now what we have disarray and bitter feelings everywhere. If Aliona wanted to leave in May that should have been the time. Certainly not now when they've been working on new programs and training for her for 2 months.

EG also needs to re-evaluate her possibly being too rigid and not letting these kids be individuals. I'm just saying in the span of a couple months she lost quad Queen and the most beautiful skater in the world 2 years after losing her most beloved skater Zhenya because Zhenya wanted more control in her career.

She also needs to re-evaluate she gets 40% of her pupils earnings. I guarantee that was a sticking point with at Zhenya Sasha and now aliona who will probably get a big sponsorship deal with Plushenko. Promises promises.

Plushenko failed miserably with Sima and Nastia. That can't possibly happen with Sasha and aliona can it?

Who said Sasha wanted to be away from Aliona? I always thought that was something fans thought, but according to the Gossips Anna was the real problem.

 

[dunffvanstorn]

Lol this blows me away. Sasha wanted to get the away from the most beautiful skater in the world and now she's going to be training with her again everyday. Damn! Tough luck for the quad Queen!

The Russian Federation never should have allowed this move at this stage in the off season. You might even say they are playing Russian roulette with future results internationally. They went from having the strongest women's team ever in ladies figure skating to who knows now what we have disarray and bitter feelings everywhere. If Aliona wanted to leave in May that should have been the time. Certainly not now when they've been working on new programs and training for her for 2 months.

EG also needs to re-evaluate her possibly being too rigid and not letting these kids be individuals. I'm just saying in the span of a couple months she lost quad Queen and the most beautiful skater in the world 2 years after losing her most beloved skater Zhenya because Zhenya wanted more control in her career.

She also needs to re-evaluate she gets 40% of her pupils earnings. I guarantee that was a sticking point with at Zhenya Sasha and now aliona who will probably get a big sponsorship deal with Plushenko. Promises promises.

Plushenko failed miserably with Sima and Nastia. That can't possibly happen with Sasha and aliona can it?

Sima and Nastia were already flawed before they went to him.

Aliona and Sasha are going to him at the peak of their careers.

 

[flanker]

Trankov's comment on the situation:
https://rsport.ria.ru/20200731/1575229361.html?utm_referrer=https://zen.yandex.com

He says hit was unexpected for him, he understood that for Sasha it could be the way to regain consistency, while Aliona had results, medals, records and in such cases skaters usually don't change coaches. But she remains his personal favourite of the trio Aliona, Sasha, Anna.

 

[Fluture]

Who said Sasha wanted to be away from Aliona? I always thought that was something fans thought, but according to the Gossips Anna was the real problem.

Can we, like, not talk about young girls and call them “problems“? Also, I‘ve never heard of Anna being anything close to a problem. She seems like a nice, hardworking girl to me. As do Sasha and Aliona and all the other skaters. They‘re literally just trying to live their lives lol.

 

[dunffvanstorn]

We asked the skating gods for programs and they gave us another coaching change...

I have so many reactions........

First of all, WHAT?

I'm sure there are so many sides to the story that we're not seeing, because what we are seeing is so crazy and unorganized. We just saw her program announcement! This departure seems so much more sudden and wild than Sasha's.

I'm also really sad that we'll never know what the short program was to be. And never see either of the programs (although I will say that lovely wasn't my favorite choice). I will say that if Alena did actually decide this in May, then did she pick lovely on purpose because she knew she was leaving? I doubt it but the whole thing is just so weird. I wonder who will choreograph the programs now. Will it be Rozanov, or will she get outside choreographers like was originally promised with Sasha. Of course, the pandemic makes that hard, but we'll see?

Also, poor Trusova lol. She leaves partly avoid the lack of attention that she felt she was getting, and it was gonna be her and Rozanov against the world. I wonder what the dynamic will be now. Will this also open the doors for more Tutberidze students to follow? Or will it just stabilize Shcherbakova, Valieva, Usacheva, etc. because they have more attention now? Will they begin to put more focus on Alina and try a legitimate return with her? I guess that one depends on Alina herself.

Anyways, Trusova/Kostornaya, the original junior duo back together again...

Sasha will still get lots of attention, and having a 3A senior jumper by her side might motivate her.

 

[flanker]

What does he say in the video?


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Precisely what was in the comment, brief description of the events. Roughly adding that "this is their job and they have to continue". Relatively reserved and moderate comment.