2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[dunffvanstorn]

Yeah, I think Rozanov being there changes everything, I think its clear he's the one doing the technical heavy-lifting (well at least for the Eteri-transfers). I remember saying back when Trusova moved there that this was Plushenko's big shot to up the reputation of his school, its sort of now or never. But now its *really* his shot. He has Three huge prospects - he literally just got two of the top three current ladies skaters as short term prospects and Veronika Zhilina as sort of a longer term prospect.

I think it’s kinda funny when I mentioned Rozanov bring a big reason for Sasha leaving, everyone laughed at me and said I was wrong...

I’m not talking about you, don’t worry, I just quoted your comment because it mentions Rozanov.

 

[Fluture]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CDURzYTpJEg/?igshid=1vkz8c704bsvh

Training camp in Novogorsk has ended. TeamTut throwing shade as per usual but the real question is: why isn‘t Adelia in the picture? Akatieva is and she‘s a novice as well, so... I want to know how she‘s doing, especially since she was scheduled to make her junior debut this season.

 

[dunffvanstorn]

The smartest and most far-sighted girls, Anna and Alina, stay with Eteri, which makes me happy!

yeah, just the ones who stay with Eteri are smart... cough cough

 

[dunffvanstorn]

Talk badly? She made a point that both Yulia and Evgenia at one point asked for privileges and didn't get them, so why would they give them to Aliona now?

Eteri worshippers will always defend her, no matter what...

 

[nussnacker]

Eteri worshippers will always defend her, no matter what...

Hey! Hands off from my fellow Alina-worshipper!
Jk, I just think people can have different opinions, yannow.

 

[dunffvanstorn]

The only thing that makes sense to me is that Eteri was trying to explain why she thought Aliona made the decision to leave back in May. At some point, Aliona, (or her parents) asked Eteri for whatever it was she thought would benefit her training. Eteri said no, that's not how we do things. Time passes. Aliona (or her parents) make(s) the decision in May to do what they believe is in her best interest. Possibly because of Eteri's refusal to accommodate her request not to share ice with certain skaters, maybe for financial reasons, more than likely it was some combination of factors that influenced the decision. It's never just one thing.

They decide to wait to tell anyone until the last minute. Maybe they weren't 100% convinced they were doing the right thing and needed more time to be certain. Maybe they wanted to take full advantage of the Novogorsk training camp. Maybe they were giving Team Tut a chance to change Aliona's mind about things.

As we don’t know the truth, we’re only talking about hypotheses, mine is that Pluschenko started to talk to Aliona when Sasha left, but Aliona probably said - let me give Eteri one last chance. Seeing things didn’t get better for whatever reason we don’t know, she finally decided to leave.

I don’t think Aliona would be dumb to “use” Eteri and let her believe she would stay, make fools of Eteri and Daniil by letting them make her programs and then leave. I think she had in her mind that she would try to stay with them, but knowing she had Pluschenko as a possibility if things didn’t work out with Eteri.

 

[dunffvanstorn]

You call yourself an Alina fan but only made an insta for Aliona. I see how it is! :dev2:

That’s so childish. Let the person be a fan of whoever they say they are fans of. Alina didn’t leave Eteri, so it wasn’t necessary to have an Instagram account before, as there was no Alina drama going on.

 

[flanker]

Eteri worshippers will always defend her, no matter what...

Lopsilceci has the perfect right for her opinion (where she didn't blame anyone of anything), if you disagree, than the proper way should be to claim what is your position, show some counterargunets etc. not just attack and call those with other opinion worshippers etc.

 

[nussnacker]

That’s so childish. Let the person be a fan of whoever they say they are fans of. Alina didn’t leave Eteri, so it wasn’t necessary to have an Instagram account before, as there was no Alina drama going on.

It’s a friendly joke, lmao don’t take everything written here seriously!

 

[dunffvanstorn]

Can we, like, not talk about young girls and call them “problems“? Also, I‘ve never heard of Anna being anything close to a problem. She seems like a nice, hardworking girl to me. As do Sasha and Aliona and all the other skaters. They‘re literally just trying to live their lives lol.

I’m sorry for the word, as I’ve said before English is not my first language. I meant “Anna as being the problem” because the gossip sources said Anna was being the favored by Daniil etc.

 

[dunffvanstorn]

It’s a friendly joke, lmao don’t take everything written here seriously!

Sorry, I’m still traumatized from the times people called me an Alina hater because I said she had to improve in some areas.

 

[AshWagsFan]

Let’s not dish out hate on here! I’ve been in too many arguments about things like this! Instead, why don’t we change the argument to something more interesting - what are Alina’s comeback chances now that Aliona AND Sasha both left TT?

 

[lopsilceci]

Eteri worshippers will always defend her, no matter what...

LOL, and you will always see her as the villain, no matter the circumstances...

Btw, Julia Lipnitskaya liked Eteri's IG post. I guess she didn't feel "dragged" or offended in any way.

 

[flanker]

That’s so childish. Let the person be a fan of whoever they say they are fans of. Alina didn’t leave Eteri, so it wasn’t necessary to have an Instagram account before, as there was no Alina drama going on.

It’s a friendly joke, lmao don’t take everything written here seriously!

Confirming Nussnacker's words. It's a joke. In all your findings who is a fan of who, who is a satanist - er, I mean "eteri's worshipper", you should spare some reserves for fun. After all, in this situation fun and jokes are the only thing that's for sure to us

 

[AshWagsFan]

LOL, and you will always see her as the villain, no matter the circumstances...

Btw, Julia Lipnitskaya liked Eteri's IG post. I guess she didn't feel "dragged" or offended in any way.

Oh my... I did not realize they were on good terms? I thought they didn’t speak once Yulia left

 

[flanker]

Let’s not dish out hate on here! I’ve been in too many arguments about things like this! Instead, why don’t we change the argument to something more interesting - what are Alina’s comeback chances now that Aliona AND Sasha both left TT?

I guess the first question to solve when speaking about anyone's progress, Alina, all the who transfered etc. is how the near future (all the whole next season) would look like. Trainings, competitions. Longer pause without competitions can cause more time for gaining abilities back, improving etc., but also can bring some frustration e.g. thanks to the lack of opportunities to show yourself.

As for Alina precisely, she can have more time for herself, but I don't think the lack of attention was ever a problem.

 

[nussnacker]

Let’s not dish out hate on here! I’ve been in too many arguments about things like this! Instead, why don’t we change the argument to something more interesting - what are Alina’s comeback chances now that Aliona AND Sasha both left TT?

I think Alina isn’t really taking all of that too much into consideration, imo.
However, it does surely sound like something good rather bad for Alina, I’ll be honest. Less students (with transfer window closed) - more time and attention for Alina.

Hopefully, this will prove to be a better solution for all the girls and training camps: Aliona and Sasha getting to train with Plushenko and Rozanov, getting their undivided attention, and Team Tut having more time on their hands for their students too.

 

[Finley]

You think I am two-faced? OK I will make my coming out, I'm going to Plushenko as well

:shame:

 

[flanker]

Oh my... I did not realize they were on good terms? I thought they didn’t speak once Yulia left

In fact Yulia liked numerous Eteri's posts already in the past, incl. those when there was a brush between Eteri and Tatyana Anatolyevna.

 

[AshWagsFan]

I guess the first question to solve when speaking about anyone's progress, Alina, all the who transfered etc. is how the near future (all the whole next season) would look like. Trainings, competitions. Longer pause without competitions can cause more time for gaining abilities back, improving etc., but also can bring some frustration e.g. thanks to the lack of opportunities to show yourself.

As for Alina precisely, she can have more time for herself, but I don't think the lack of attention was ever a problem.

Very true point about the lack of attention. I think it’s more fair to say that Alina may not be as frustrated and could gain some confidence because she would no longer be watching and training beside two skaters that out performed her all last season...