2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Amei]

That was also in previous interviews with Sahsa and the team, it looks they tried to focus on less quads (3) better executed than more with mistakes. Which seems very reasonable to me, though it needs to be said that at the Europeans it didn't work as it should.

None of the 3 Russian skaters skated phenomenally at Europeans.

There is not a single student of Tutberidze who would show better results after leaving. In 100% of cases - regression. This time will be no exception.

Perhaps, however very few of Eteri's skaters have left her when they were in the prime of their career and without injury like Kostornaia and Trusova have.

 

[Fried]

Why are you arguing. It doesn't matter who is "the best skater in the world". In the end they'll be beaten anyway. From the one and only Russian Rocket.

 

[flanker]

None of the 3 Russian skaters skated phenomenally at Europeans.

I'm aware of that and no one of them nor Eteri said otherwise. That's why the cancellation of the worlds is such a shame for them, because as we can see from the other examples, it is very probable they would have been prepared much more.

 

[NadezhdaNadya]

Grand Prix is a commercial tourney of lesser rank than World Championships.

There was no Worlds due to the coronavirus. Not Alyona's fault. But yes she is the best when it comes to quality.

 

[brakes]

Why are you arguing. It doesn't matter who is "the best skater in the world". In the end they'll be beaten anyway. From the one and only Russian Rocket.

Camp Plushenko's cockiness spreading hard among it's fans I see.

 

[Amei]

Grand Prix is a commercial tourney of lesser rank than World Championships.

And the only reason Zagitova is still the "reigning world champion" is because a global pandemic caused the World Championships this year to be cancelled, she didn't even attempt to get on the team to defend her title.

 

[Finley]

Hm. I'm getting the strangest feeling that there will be 5 new pages on this thread when I wake up.

And 4 of them will be discussing things completely topic:

 

[brakes]

And the only reason Zagitova is still the "reigning world champion" is because a global pandemic caused the World Championships this year to be cancelled

...and you can do exactly nothing about it. :handw:

 

[Amei]

...and you can do exactly nothing about it. :handw:

But to use that she is still "reigning world champion" as reasoning that she's the best skater in the world when the only reason she's still the reigning champion is because the competition was cancelled this year is ridiculous.

 

[brakes]

But to use that she is still "reigning world champion" as reasoning that she's the best skater in the world when the only reason she's still the reigning champion is because the competition was cancelled this year is ridiculous.

Who is reigning World Champion in ladies figure skating?

 

[Mathman]

Who is reigning World Champion in ladies figure skating?

Zagitova is the 2018-19 World Champion. There is no 2019-2020 World Champion in ladies' figure skating.

 

[Mathman]

Kostornaya finishes Olympics higher than Shcherbakova and Valieva when I become a pope.

I predict Valieva will win. She will be the right age.

The argument that skaters regressed when they left Eteri is not valid. They regressed because they hit 16-17 and aged out of the top ranks.

Still, I look forward to see if Trusova can hang onto her quads for another year and a half. Probably not. You can't fight mother nature.

 

[yume]

The thought of Anna switching to him crossed my mind. But I would be a little surprised if she actually did since that would mean the three top skaters training together again.

And i don't think Shcherbakova wants to put herself in a situation like 2020 Rusnats interview (the one just after results) again. Poor girl was sitting akwardly between a devastated Trusova and a pissed off Kostornaya. The good thing is that they will become individuals and won't be treated as triplets anymore by media.

 

[dhjh811]

Camp Plushenko's cockiness spreading hard among it's fans I see.

pot calling the kettle black, look what you've been posting

 

[dhjh811]

Who is reigning World Champion in ladies figure skating?

Who is reigning GPF champion? Who is reigning European champion? Who beat Zagitova in both grand prix events? Who finished last in the GPF and went on break? History is history, Zagitova's career is on decline. She is not the best anymore. What are you being cocky for

 

[NadezhdaNadya]

Medvedeva did not leave at the peak of her career. Her peak was the 2016-17 season. The way she did those -3s never became the same after the injury. Trusova and Kostornaia left during the peaks of their career. We will see how things fold out from now. Medvedeva's decline was more due to her age, injury, and flawed technique catching up with her. Even during the Olympics, it was clear that she'd never be technically dominant in the field again. This is not true for Kostornaia or Trusova. I wouldn't be surprised if both of them go to Beijing.

She was not at her peak. She was at her peak in the 2015-2016 and 2016-2017 seasons when she won everything (and had better programs and costumes as well). In 2017-2019 she fell several times and was injured during GPF and Russian nationals (she did not attend both of them). Then was not clean at Europeans and Alina won Olympics, not Evgenia. Evgenia cried bitterly. Hardly her peak season. Then she left Eteri.

 

[brakes]

It doesn't matter when the peak was, the point is: whoever leaves Eteri, bites the dust.

 

[dhjh811]

She was not at her peak. She was at her peak in the 2015-2016 and 2016-2017 seasons when she won everything (and had better programs and costumes as well). In 2017-2019 she fell several times and was injured during GPF and Russian nationals (she did not attend both of them). Then was not clean at Europeans and Alina won Olympics, not Evgenia. Evgenia cried bitterly. Hardly her peak season. Then she left Eteri.

That's what I said.

 

[NadezhdaNadya]

It doesn't matter when the peak was, the point is: whoever leaves Eteri, bites the dust.

Disagree. Tarakanova won gold medal and silver medal in her JGP events and qualified for the JGPF where she was 4th. At this time she was with Plushenko. Then after she left him because of small rink problem, her results were not so great. But still good - she won two bronze medals at her JGP events. Still success.

 

[dhjh811]

Still, Zhenya did not end silver at the olympics because of some lousy (degrading) skate. In fact she received the second highest score of her life in PeyongChang. And that's said with the knowledge that WTT is known for insane overscoring of everyone, so I think it is safe to say that Zhenya's persormances at the Olympics were the second best, if not the completely best, of her career. She finished second because Alina scored higher. Therefore it can be hardly called decline, esp. with considering that her previous results of the season were affected by her injury.

Her -3 toe technique was already wonky by the Olympics because of the injury. It was clear that with her age, flawed technique, and injury, she was never going to be dominant again. Evgenia gave imo the most emotional performances of her career at the Olympics. However, her jumps were not quite the same as they were in 2015-16 and 2016-17. More muscled, landed yes, but more cautious and less spring. It was clear that she had just gone all in for the Olympics despite her injury and that after the Olympics, she would suffer from the effects of the injury. IMO, her staying with Eteri may have helped her spin and step levels, but her jumps would have naturally regressed anyways.

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It doesn't matter when the peak was, the point is: whoever leaves Eteri, bites the dust.

Ok, blabber on with no justification whatsoever. Great job!!