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@kostornaiateam on instagram sent Aliona a lovely gift in support! and look how cute her hair is!
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDg-7vHIgZY/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDg-7vHIgZY/
Alena Kostornaia
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Plushenko is someone who can (more or less) go head to head with Eteri. Their feud started before Sasha even left. How much of a good thing this mudslinging is is another matter. But it is also possible that girls/their families may be happy on some level that they have a coach who will defend them instead of trying to be above it all - that just doesn't work. Now it has got to the point of fans starting a change.org petition to protect Eteri (yes, like she can't look after herself), and there are cries to forbid skaters from leaving Eteri's group until they are 18 (needless to say there would be no such limits on joining it). The amount of crazies out there is staggering and they all currently want to tear Alyona apart.
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Guys I wasnt here for some time and now Im just wondering whats going on about Aliona. Can you make some quick recap for me of what happend?
Alena left Eteri for Plushenko a few days ago. Eteri posted on instagram that Alena left because she had a list of skaters she didnt want to skate with. She also said the transfer was made in May. Meanwhile Plushenko said that Alena only contacted him 2 weeks ago. He also said that Alena will get 2 new programs and called the Lovely program from Daniil G awful. Daniil G said that Alena started training badly in mid-July and started talking back. One day she waited in the corridor for them and told them she didnt want to train with them anymore.
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Updates from Aliona herself, with comments enabled. She's doing all good 
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDiTbQXpKpR/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDiTbQXpKpR/
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Thats good to see. [emoji4]Updates from Aliona herself, with comments enabled. She's doing all good
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDiTbQXpKpR/
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What worries about those idea it that they got it backward.
It's an individual sport not a school competition.
Coaches are there to support and grown the skater not the other way around.
Their work must be respected of course, but when a relation is broken is right for the skater to try and work with another coach.
There is not reason to force people who not believe in each other anymore to work togheter.
Anyway those people saying skater should not leave should also be againt eteri kicking someone out of her academy right?
Or again the school is all and the skaters are just byproducts?
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Reading Plushenko‘s most recent interview, I‘m pretty nervous about the season. He‘s said multiple times now that they‘re ”starting from scratch“ and that Aliona “hasn‘t skated for a long time“. This makes it sound as if she’ll have to completely re-learn her triples again which doesn‘t bode well, considering that test skates start in a month and the programs haven‘t been choreographed yet! I‘m not even talking about the 3A, which I think we can be pretty sure won‘t be ready by test skates. But just her general state and shape, physical as well as mental. I hope she won‘t be too affected by the drama but it‘s certainly good that she feels the love of her fans and has recently felt safe enough to turn on the comments again!
I think we‘ll have to prepare for a tough season ahead, regardless though. Coaching changes are never easy and Aliona is starting very late. However, if there‘s a season for all that to happen, it‘s now. She‘s had a brilliant senior debut and while it would of course be helpful to keep the momentum going leading up to Beijing, it‘s better to have a bit of a slump now, rather than skate perfectly for two seasons and fall flat/burn out in the Olympic one.
For test skates, I‘m hoping for her to have her programs at least mostly finished and be able to skate with 3-3s restored.
Maybe a tentative layout could look like this?
3F+3T
2A
3Lzx
3F+3T
2A
3Lo
2A
3Lz+2Tx
3F+Eu+3Sx
3Lzx
Similar to what she had at test skates last year, just a bit simpler? I think the task is to skate cleanly at test skates, even if the technical content is a bit easier. This way she can show she‘s still there, still ready and going strong. Difficulty like more backloaded combos and the 3A should come once she‘s comfortable with her jumps and programs again. Otherwise I fear she‘d risk injury. IMO at least.
What do y‘all think, what Aliona should/can we expect at test skates?
I think we‘ll have to prepare for a tough season ahead, regardless though. Coaching changes are never easy and Aliona is starting very late. However, if there‘s a season for all that to happen, it‘s now. She‘s had a brilliant senior debut and while it would of course be helpful to keep the momentum going leading up to Beijing, it‘s better to have a bit of a slump now, rather than skate perfectly for two seasons and fall flat/burn out in the Olympic one.
For test skates, I‘m hoping for her to have her programs at least mostly finished and be able to skate with 3-3s restored.
Maybe a tentative layout could look like this?
3F+3T
2A
3Lzx
3F+3T
2A
3Lo
2A
3Lz+2Tx
3F+Eu+3Sx
3Lzx
Similar to what she had at test skates last year, just a bit simpler? I think the task is to skate cleanly at test skates, even if the technical content is a bit easier. This way she can show she‘s still there, still ready and going strong. Difficulty like more backloaded combos and the 3A should come once she‘s comfortable with her jumps and programs again. Otherwise I fear she‘d risk injury. IMO at least.
What do y‘all think, what Aliona should/can we expect at test skates?
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I mean what id a long time in fs? From the infos we have she probably hasnt skated for around 3 to 4 weeks? Like the last 2 to 3 weeks after she told eteri and daniil about the change and i think daniil said she didnt come to training for a few days which could mean from 3 days to almost a weeks( or did i get that wrong?)
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I don‘t know. Honestly, I have no idea about the time line because for me, this whole story doesn‘t add up.
But even 3-4 weeks are long for figure skaters, especially if she just went through that long difficult period of getting her jumps back after the quarantine. The good thing is that she knows how to come back after a break as she‘s done it before (remember that she was injured before last season). But I still think this is different. It‘s a lot to take in. New team, late start, having to regain jumps, learn programs.. it‘s not easy. I believe in her that she‘ll figure it out eventually. I just think we‘ll have to prepare for a tough first few months. It might not be that much of a problem given that there‘s probably not going to be much international skating in the first half of the season anyway. But I still dread the “Plushenko ruined her“ and “she should have stayed with Eteri“ comments, as usually completely disregarding the entire circumstances surrounding the situation. I hope there won‘t be too many of them but I won‘t hold my breath lol.
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kostornaiateam on instagram shared an interview with Aliona, seems to be from around the time Novogorsk opened. here is the translation:
On the first week of the quarantine, I was pretty fine, but then I got bored. The monotony was really pressing, one day was turning to another one and they were absolutely similar. I had lessons from morning till dinner, after that I had the first training and a little break, and after that I had the second training. About 8 pm I did my homework and after that, if I have some time, I read and watched TV. I got upset that I can’t do horseback riding. I was thinking: what a pity! I never had enough time for that and now I totally can’t do it!
I trained in different styles: special program running, strength training, jumping. We took out the furniture from one of the rooms, and I jumped there. And also I did ballet bare practice and stretch. Nothing extraordinary. I tried to keep myself in usual weigh to avoid a situation when I wouldn’t be able to feet in my training closes.
Actually, I treated that quarantine very seriously. I tried to go to bed not too late because I understood, if I break my daily rhythm, it will be hard to get in it back.
The positive moment of the quarantine is that I got more time for lessons. I’m going to go to the First Medical University, and now I study with a tutor and I read specialized books. Next year I’ll take Unified State Exams. I learn biology for a long time already, but now I’m learning it from scratch for preparing to the USE in advanced program.
During the quarantine I read a book “Do No Harm” by famous British neurosurgeon Henry Marsh. It’s given me by one of my fans. She works in ambulance in Sklifosofsky Institute. That book tells about the job I dream about, neurosurgery. And also I watched “Grey’s Anatomy” to get deeper in my future occupation, so to say.
And the brightest impression of that period… Is the news about the rink opened in Novogorsk! We were told about it on Friday, and we went on the ice on Monday. Three days of waiting and finally we’re there! When I trained at home, I didn't have enough full workload to fall from fatigue
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDi6KRmoaIi/
On the first week of the quarantine, I was pretty fine, but then I got bored. The monotony was really pressing, one day was turning to another one and they were absolutely similar. I had lessons from morning till dinner, after that I had the first training and a little break, and after that I had the second training. About 8 pm I did my homework and after that, if I have some time, I read and watched TV. I got upset that I can’t do horseback riding. I was thinking: what a pity! I never had enough time for that and now I totally can’t do it!
I trained in different styles: special program running, strength training, jumping. We took out the furniture from one of the rooms, and I jumped there. And also I did ballet bare practice and stretch. Nothing extraordinary. I tried to keep myself in usual weigh to avoid a situation when I wouldn’t be able to feet in my training closes.
Actually, I treated that quarantine very seriously. I tried to go to bed not too late because I understood, if I break my daily rhythm, it will be hard to get in it back.
The positive moment of the quarantine is that I got more time for lessons. I’m going to go to the First Medical University, and now I study with a tutor and I read specialized books. Next year I’ll take Unified State Exams. I learn biology for a long time already, but now I’m learning it from scratch for preparing to the USE in advanced program.
During the quarantine I read a book “Do No Harm” by famous British neurosurgeon Henry Marsh. It’s given me by one of my fans. She works in ambulance in Sklifosofsky Institute. That book tells about the job I dream about, neurosurgery. And also I watched “Grey’s Anatomy” to get deeper in my future occupation, so to say.
And the brightest impression of that period… Is the news about the rink opened in Novogorsk! We were told about it on Friday, and we went on the ice on Monday. Three days of waiting and finally we’re there! When I trained at home, I didn't have enough full workload to fall from fatigue
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDi6KRmoaIi/
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It actually does when you remove Eteri's account, Daniil said they found out about her decision on July 18, Plush said they contacted 2 weeks before his interview (July 31) which is July 17.
If Aliona had stopped skating 3 days before July 18 (July 14) and only had her 1st training on Aug 4 (IG Live) then she hadn't had ice training in exactly 3 weeks.
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Plushenko doing choreo with Alena
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDjaSQaJIT6/?igshid=1jd7a1ciluaxa
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDjaSQaJIT6/?igshid=1jd7a1ciluaxa
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDjaP2UqBrX/?igshid=1pzhw1ic6dfqt
Looks like Plushenko and Rozanov are choreographing her programs. Hoped it would be a choreographer outside Russia, or Averbukh/Tarasova, but still hoping it'll be a great program. Kostornaia is capable of making almost anything look lovely
Looks like Plushenko and Rozanov are choreographing her programs. Hoped it would be a choreographer outside Russia, or Averbukh/Tarasova, but still hoping it'll be a great program. Kostornaia is capable of making almost anything look lovely
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She made the twilight programm into something beautiful, even if the music cuts were again horrible , but she made it somehow work so i have no doubt that as long as it isnt complete trash she can make any programm look amazingly
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Aliona and the coaches https://www.instagram.com/p/CDjV4ITqZpT/ and https://www.instagram.com/p/CDjaP2UqBrX/
I'm a littl bit worried. The man who shared the video is a rehabilitologist..There was a gossip about Aliona's back injury....
I'm a littl bit worried. The man who shared the video is a rehabilitologist..There was a gossip about Aliona's back injury....
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Alyona is wonderful, and I want to support her, but man is watching her work on programs with Plushenko making me nervous.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CDjhx56p_sz/?igshid=18plooz9lqeeu
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Given the context of the interview I’d assumed Plushenko meant they were starting from scratch with choreography. Aliona herself said she’d regained all the triples. That was of course before the drama, but quite honestly, I don’t see that being an issue because the break now is much shorter than during the pandemic. I can’t imagine that one of the best figure skaters in the world would struggle with that when we’ve so many videos of all levels of skaters who have regained their triples. For me it will be confidence, and whether she is acquainted enough with her programs to skate them with the perfection we know she values.
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The break wasnt one week but almost 3 weeks, cause i doubt she was skating the 2 weeks after she told eteri that she was leaving, and then almost a week from the announcement of eteri to when yesterday when seh was on the ice again.
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