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2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating
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Let me remind you that you that Alyona has the best skating skills and very good technique. Why calling Anna for advice then?!? She is much better than Anna (*who has poor skating skills, horrific technique and excessive pre-rotation*)
I cringe when people think that Anna is better than Alyona
Why people dislike Alyona? She does not have excessive pre-rotation.
Not many people could first break her arm and then her leg in the same year and come back as strong as Anna has. And she still hasn't regained her 4T that she had before she broke her leg.
Oh, yes, Anna's gorgeous quads of 3.25 rotations in the air, while Alyona rotates 3.50 rotations in the air for her triple axel and gets less points than Anna.
A quad is 3.25 revolutions in the air, though...? So you're criticizing Anna for rotating her quad fully?
By the way, Alëna doesn't rotate her Axel 3.50 revolutions in the air.
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Oh, yes, Anna's gorgeous quads of 3.25 rotations in the air, while Alyona rotates 3.50 rotations in the air for her triple axel and gets less points than Anna.
You're going to have to change your tune because Anna is very possibly going to be the number one lady this year. There will be a major adjustment for aliona and Sasha going to a new coach and environment. Anna is so stable emotionally and she gets better every season so watch out for her this season.
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She does not deserve to be first with these 3.25 rotations in the air. Sorry.
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It is not fully. It should be 3.75 rotations in the air like Boyang's lutz. Alyona rotates 3.50 rotations for her triple axel.
Nobody rotates a 3A 3.5 times in the air.
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We definitely disagree. I think Anna is versatile, but her Firebird was good despite the costume change gimmick. She really performs it and her movements and expression suited the music. I agree that she performed her Perfume well too, though.
Valieva skated to Spartacus, a ballet, and I thought that was her weakest program in terms of interpretation. Ballet is more than just flexibility, extended legs and pointed toes. Imo, her body movement, especially upper body, but also her legs, are much closer to a contemporary dancer's style. And the most obvious part is her musicality; she gets lost in classical pieces but is much more expressive with contemporary music and choreography. I'd actually like to see her with a very modern program. And I think the same for Zhilina.
Of all Eteri's skaters past and present, the only one who can really express classical music is Anna. Imo, of course. But she does need to fix her feet.
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That's true. Everyone's quad Lutz should be like Boyang Jin's. And everyone's Ina Bauer she be like Shizuka Arakawa's. :yes:
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A quad's 3.25 revolutions in the air, a triple's 2.25 revolutions in the air, a double's 1.25 revolutions in the air... Those are the jumps.
No she doesn't, you saying that she does doesn't make it true.
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Valieva could perform ballet well even back when she was 8 years old, she should be able to do so just fine now. I doubt it being a ballet was the issue with her Spartacus. It was a poor program, I'd blame Daniil.
Veronika Zhilina's made for a ballet program, in fact I think that's the one program type she will be able to actually perform to perfection.
I assume this is NOT intended to refute anything I said, because it doesn't.
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It does. It shows that Boyang rotated 3.77 rotations in the air and Anna a little bit more than 3 rotations. Usually she rotates 3.25 rotations in the air for her quad.
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Absolutely true! She is a SKATER, not a miserable tool in the hands of political/ideological games under the disguise of figure skating. It was enough for her to leave eteri and she suddenly has became "bad" and questionable in all levels.
Alena is too talented- and too independent minded- to be appreciated in a long run in the system where each talented lady skater sooner or later becomes only a tool for subtle ideological/political games (= dares to change a coach? mind yourself)
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I think they will be more than 3.25 this season and in the future. I think the judges they see them more than 3.25.
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Actually, I think that what the judges see is that the amount of genuine rotation in the air is about 3.25, which is normal for properly executed quads. If a remarkable talent (and a man) like Boyang Jin can do even better than that, good for him. But the judges will not penalize Anna Shcherbakova -- either in base value or in GOE -- on account of anything that Boyang Jin or Nathan Chen does.
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Really? And what is your opinion about the rotations of triple lutz? What is the normal number of rotations in the air of triple lutz then?
As people have said before: a jump is -0.75 the number of rotations in its name (except axel which is 0.25 less). It's because 1/2 turn on take off is allowed, and 1/4 on landing is allowed.
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I agree with your assessment but nadhez will not..
Anna has gotten better 2 straight season let's see what this season whatever it is brings for her. We need to remember she's the two-time two-time two-time Russian national champion. If Sasha and aliona I have growing pains with their new coaching team as is normally the case then honor could very well when three Russian national titles in a row.
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