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I thought Rozanov is still in Pluschenko's Academy?
The last I heard was he wasn't working with Trusova anymore (same with Elena Ilinykh) despite the fact she was the one supposedly responsible from bringing him to the academy to start with. However I never heard anything about him leaving the academy completely. I assumed he was still working with Alena
 
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Gubanova on why she didn’t compete up until SPb championship: she was in quarantine several times, she came in contact with infected people, when she was only about to gain her competitive form, she would suddenly have to quarantine again, thus she missed all Cup stages and couldn’t earn a spot for Nationals. She herself didn’t get infected (wasn’t sick).
Oh, that's devastating to hear. But at the same time a relief. I thought she was injured, or sick!

Please, RusFed. Give Gubanova a free ticket to RusNats. She belongs there and we all know it.
 
My take on the World Team for Worlds:

For sure it will be between Shcherbakova, Trusova, Kostornaia and maybe Tuktamysheva. But I think we will have the same world team as last year.

When it comes to Nationals I think:
Top 3: Valieva, Shcherbakova, Trusova, Usacheva, Kostornaia, Tuktamysheva will fight for it. And I would have them in that order. But anything can happen. Ice is slippery.

At the same time I have to say that Tuktamysheva has impressed me this season. She has been much better than last season and if she can hit it at Nats then she might be a contender. But I think the others must make mistakes for Liza to be on the podium (and be on the World team).

The weak link for me to make the world team is probably Kostornaia. She hasn't been that good so far. There is probably many explanations for that, but IMO, the Eteri team was brilliant in hiding her weaknesses, the Plushy team is not. And she doesn't have her 3A back yet. Without the 3A I think Liza might beat her at RusNats.

And about Trusova, she can easily win Nationals and be on the World team. We all know she can. But she hasn't delivered. In fact, I was looking a couple of years back, she has never delivered. She always has a fall somewhere. In her early junior days that was ok because there was no one who matched her anyway. Today it is not so. So again, I am saying, please Sasha, concentrate on doing a clean 2 (maybe 3) quad program and don't overdo it.
 
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The last I heard was he wasn't working with Trusova anymore (same with Elena Ilinykh) despite the fact she was the one supposedly responsible from bringing him to the academy to start with. However I never heard anything about him leaving the academy completely. I assumed he was still working with Alena
For my understanding, there was never an intention for Rozanov to train Sasha. She moved to Pluschenko because of Pluschenko. I think getting Rozanov to the Academy was just a strategic move to get another talented skaters like Zhilina sisters and Alena. The last wouldn't have moved if he had staid with TT.
 
For my understanding, there was never an intention for Rozanov to train Sasha. She moved to Pluschenko because of Pluschenko. I think getting Rozanov to the Academy was just a strategic move to get another talented skaters like Zhilina sisters and Alena. The last wouldn't have moved if he had staid with TT.
Sasha’s father said in an interview that he suggested to Plushchenko to invite Rozanov. It seems that the idea was for Sasha to continue working with him. Something changed later.
 
For my understanding, there was never an intention for Rozanov to train Sasha. She moved to Pluschenko because of Pluschenko. I think getting Rozanov to the Academy was just a strategic move to get another talented skaters like Zhilina sisters and Alena. The last wouldn't have moved if he had staid with TT.
I read that he is not longer training the Zhilinas sisters, the mother fired him, now she's is training the girls with Mikhailov and Plushy
 
I read that he is not longer training the Zhilinas sisters, the mother fired him, now she's is training the girls with Mikhailov and Plushy
Coaching too should be discussed separately, I believe. I’ve heard about this too, but perhaps it’s a temporary measure to have Rozanov be able to focus more on Aliona before Nationals? I would assume that, as my first guess.
 
My take on the World Team for Worlds:

For sure it will be between Shcherbakova, Trusova, Kostornaia and maybe Tuktamysheva. But I think we will have the same world team as last year.

I think it will be the same team from last year - Tuktamysheva has layout issues and while Trusova is a wild card with the number of falls she's going to have her BV allows for more errors than Tuktamysheva and I think the allure of 'what if she lands them most or all of them' is going to assist her with getting on the team even if Tuktamysheva beats her at Nationals. And as it's been said Tuktamysheva is planning on taking out a fairly stable triple axel for a never-landed-in-competition quad.


When it comes to Nationals I think:
Top 3: Valieva, Shcherbakova, Trusova, Usacheva, Kostornaia, Tuktamysheva will fight for it. And I would have them in that order. But anything can happen. Ice is slippery.

Agree with this except on 2 things:
  1. It's always mentioned that when people slightly count Shcherbakova out she tends to surprise everyone
  2. I would swap out Usacheva and Kostornaia, neither have a triple axel or quad (that we know of right now) while Kostornaia has not been close to what she was last year I don't think her second mark drops enough for Usacheva to beat her.

The weak link for me to make the world team is probably Kostornaia. She hasn't been that good so far. There is probably many explanations for that, but IMO, the Eteri team was brilliant in hiding her weaknesses, the Plushy team is not. And she doesn't have her 3A back yet. Without the 3A I think Liza might beat her at RusNats.

While Team Eteri is remarkable at hiding weaknesses, I don't know if that is necessarily Kostornaia's problem this year - she changed coaches and programs very late in a very weird offseason and on top of that she's gone through some growth changes.

And about Trusova, she can easily win Nationals and be on the World team. We all know she can. But she hasn't delivered. In fact, I was looking a couple of years back, she has never delivered. She always has a fall somewhere. In her early junior days that was ok because there was no one who matched her anyway. Today it is not so. So again, I am saying, please Sasha, concentrate on doing a clean 2 (maybe 3) quad program and don't overdo it.

I think whether or not "she's delivered" depends on what you call "delivered", has she necessarily been 100% clean, no but up until last year she managed to pretty regularly deliver enough to be able to win. Her problem is that her competition (who have better spins and PCS marks) have been able to add technical jump difficulty that wipes out her ability to have multiple errors and win.
 
My predictions for Senior RusNats.

1- Kamila. If she doesn't feel pressure from the presence of the Angel-Devil(Alëna) and the queenslayer (Sasha) on the rink.
2- Anna. Russian judges favor her so much no matter how many mistakes she makes.
3- Tukta / Alëna, (Depending on Alëna's trixels status)
The rest of the competitors are filler.

World Team.

1- Anna
2<-->3 Alëna / Liza T.
1st Substitute: Gulyakova

I am skeptical about Trusova. I doubt that she gets a spot for the National Team this and next
season.
Guliakova as alternate? Nope. Hasn't she had a hard time scoring 200 points this year. But in reality let's hope for a miracle in that there is a world championship to debate all these things this season.

Sasha should be cut some slack for having one bad event.
 
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Gubanova on why she didn’t compete up until SPb championship: she was in quarantine several times, she came in contact with infected people, when she was only about to gain her competitive form, she would suddenly have to quarantine again, thus she missed all Cup stages and couldn’t earn a spot for Nationals. She herself didn’t get infected (wasn’t sick).
Unbelievable. So her season never really got started because of covid-19 though Nastya didn't have it. Wow evrything is upside down.:(

Nastya looked thinner in the face than normal in that picture on Instagram. I hope she wasn't sick but perhaps just because she lost a few pounds. These skaters really have to social distance better. There was a picture of Nastya recently and a whole bunch of other St Petersburg based figure skaters at Leonovas birthday party and everyone was cheek to cheek without a mask. Hmmm.

Hopefully Nastya can skate in a couple more events this season.
 
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Agree. It’s just a one-off, everyone has a bad performance once in a while. I’m sure she’s ready to come with vengeance at Nationals.

It's a one-off as long as you pretend like last year's Grand Prix Final, Nationals and European championships didn't happen because if you remember those then you realize that Trusova's meltdown at Rostelecom Cup a few weeks ago is part of an ugly pattern, new coach but same problem.
 
It's a one-off as long as you pretend like last year's Grand Prix Final, Nationals and European championships didn't happen because if you remember those then you realize that Trusova's meltdown at Rostelecom Cup a few weeks ago is part of an ugly pattern, new coach but same problem.
I don’t think it’s fair to lump her poor Rostelecom performance in with her downward trend last season. There’s so many different factors affecting everything this season and she does have a new coach she’s adjusting to. If she continues to have a downward trend then you could call it a pattern, but for now it could just be one bad competition.
 
It's a one-off as long as you pretend like last year's Grand Prix Final, Nationals and European championships didn't happen because if you remember those then you realize that Trusova's meltdown at Rostelecom Cup a few weeks ago is part of an ugly pattern, new coach but same problem.
I think her performances last year and this year happened for different reasons. I think Sasha started off very strong with 3 quads, and her first few competitions when she competed with three went quite well. I believe over the summer the coaches focused on training 3 for Sasha, 1 for Anna and no-3A program for Aliona. Hence, Sasha had a comfortable lead against the other 2.
Though, when Aliona and Anna started increasing tech, the lead started narrowing down, and she wanted to have more. With 4 quads, it still worked. Wasn’t super clean, but all jumps were landed.
I think going for 5 at GPF was a mistake, in hindsight. I think they should’ve sticked to 4, and when she got all 4 at 2-3 competitions go for 5. But the constant changes in layout imo ruined her stability.
I’d say Lz-Lo suffered for the same reason: the combo needs a lot of practice to be consistent, but Sasha needed to devote more time to quads, obviously, hence Lz-Lo started getting less consistent over time.

So in a nutshell, I think it’s due to adding 5th quad too soon and frequent changes of the layout. More of a strategy mistake if anything.

This year it really seems a one off thus far. Despite having falls in FS, each time she was steadily increasing the number of quads which she landed. Something seemed off on the practice day of her FS, perhaps there was something going behind the scenes, which wasn’t revealed. But it really did seem like a very one-off performance. I don’t think it’s a pattern, tbh.
 
I liked the bonus points because with Valieva I think it gave an accurate number for her score with zero errors. Around 255, possibly 260.

Trusova has a scoring capability of around 80 with a 3A, and Anna has a capability of 80 without a 3A. So for both of them, they need a perfect SP with 175-180 in the FS to win. Anna has scored 180+ before but is nowhere close to the form, and Sasha never has. It's possible that Sasha needs to land *all* the quads IF Valieva is clean.

I see Valieva getting close to 250 in total.
 
The problem is that even with 5 quads at GPF, she landed the two hardest quads. So that + practices, where I'm sure Sasha performs better resulted in their decisions. But 4 was the magic number.

This year, that Rostelecom layout is something Sasha can do, so again I understand the logic. But 3 is the correct number IMO, even if Sasha is having incredible practices.
 
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