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I wonder why this name (and others like Elizaveta, Anna, etc.) is so popular.About 60% of them are Sofias
Great but it means very little since she has yet to land a single quad in combination
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True, but still very impressive given her height and body proportions. She seems to be a gritty girl, I like that a lot about her.
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Maiia's quad with rippon actually looks very aesthetic, maybe because she's so tall. (I'm still hoping that Daria can get a 3A....)
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#TeamTutberidzeForProgress' younger group dancing their hearts out in Aleksey Zheleznyakov's dance class:
Alisa Dvoyeglazova, Adeliya Petrosyan, Dar'ya Sadkova, Veronika An, Lyubov Rubtsova in the front row
Vsevolod Knyazev, Mark Lukin and Arseniy Fyodotov in the second row
and some young kids that not yet quite are in tune in the rear
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Alisa Dvoyeglazova, Adeliya Petrosyan, Dar'ya Sadkova, Veronika An, Lyubov Rubtsova in the front row
Vsevolod Knyazev, Mark Lukin and Arseniy Fyodotov in the second row
and some young kids that not yet quite are in tune in the rear
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Agreed. All these training vids we see about quads being landed means absolutely nothing. It almost always turns out that it is not that easy to translate that into competition.
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I am liking this#TeamTutberidzeForProgress' younger group dancing their hearts out in Aleksey Zheleznyakov's dance class:
Alisa Dvoyeglazova, Adeliya Petrosyan, Dar'ya Sadkova, Veronika An, Lyubov Rubtsova in the front row
Vsevolod Knyazev, Mark Lukin and Arseniy Fyodotov in the second row
and some young kids that not yet quite are in tune in the rear
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And Dasha Sadkova is so the right girl leading the show. Front and center. She was the best last time around and she's the best here. Zhelezniakov chooses wisely
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There should be a new competitive figure skating discipline: team floor dance.#TeamTutberidzeForProgress' younger group dancing their hearts out in Aleksey Zheleznyakov's dance class:
Alisa Dvoyeglazova, Adeliya Petrosyan, Dar'ya Sadkova, Veronika An, Lyubov Rubtsova in the front row
Vsevolod Knyazev, Mark Lukin and Arseniy Fyodotov in the second row
and some young kids that not yet quite are in tune in the rear
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I mean, competitive dance is definitely a thing, just not necessarily a figure skating discipline.
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#TeamTutberidzeForProgress' younger group dancing their hearts out in Aleksey Zheleznyakov's dance class:
Alisa Dvoyeglazova, Adeliya Petrosyan, Dar'ya Sadkova, Veronika An, Lyubov Rubtsova in the front row
Vsevolod Knyazev, Mark Lukin and Arseniy Fyodotov in the second row
and some young kids that not yet quite are in tune in the rear
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so there’s more of this dance, glad we got to see continuation, it looks fun!
Adelia as always is very good at dancing, Daria S. seems to be gaining confidence.
Veronika An caught my eye, she switched to Tutberidze this season, I believe, and she doesn’t have many confident jumps and not very good jump combos at 13. But in a few months there she progressed quite well already. I think she has very nice SS for her age though, but this situation interests me, since jumping isn’t really there at all for Nika compared to a lot of 13year olds of Russia, who, frankly speaking, spoiled us with their consistent 3-3s. I wonder why she was picked, Tutberidze probably saw something she thinks she can help with. Would be interesting to see her progress in a year.
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For me, Lyubov Redshoes Rubtsova takes most of the the cake, with her economical movement and control, and Adeliya takes a large slice of it. But plaudits to all of them for their enthusiasm and focus
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When there came the videos with Young You's quads from training about two years ago, people applauded to it, even though she didn't land it in competition. Some predicted the end of the era of russian dominance. In the RLT. So, I think we can celebrate Maiia's succesful attempts even though still in training. In the RLT
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IMO they are equal with Adeliya, but it's a dance, I hardly recognize whether the key points should receive Y or NI am liking this
And Dasha Sadkova is so the right girl leading the show. Front and center. She was the best last time around and she's the best here. Zhelezniakov chooses wisely
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I like your power of positivity sir!When there came the videos with Young You's quads from training about two years ago, people aplauded to it, even though she didn't land it in competition. Some predicted the end of the era of russian dominance. In the RLT. So, I think we can celebrate Maiia's succesful attempts even though still in training. In the RLT
In other parts of the social media jungle, I have actually seen excitement over imaginary quads.
So if one is actually landed (even if just training), I think it should be celebrated - they ain't easy to do - even in training.
When there came the videos with Young You's quads from training about two years ago, people aplauded to it, even though she didn't land it in competition. Some predicted the end of the era of russian dominance. In the RLT. So, I think we can celebrate Maiia's succesful attempts even though still in training. In the RLT
Well if you know my posting history
You'd know I'm pretty consistent with the "great, show it to me in competition before we get too excited" message.
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He choreographed Misha's, Liza's and Lupolover's FS this season. Averbukh has many ice shows and projects across the years, a busy man.
Yes, he choroegraphed the programs for his students on Ice Age.
I believe Shcherbakova has mentioned that its difficult to do 3 quads clean in 1 program, and Daniil has mentioned the issue with more than 3 disrupting the program
I don't think it's all that surprising, its much easier to learn something new rather than unlearn how you've done something and re-learn it a different way and then in a high-pressure situation not revert back to muscle memory of the original way you learned to do something. I think her problem is that perhaps Trusova was lulled into a bad mindset from her first 2 years as a junior where she was able to mess up on her quads and still win most everything because she was either the only 1 competing quads or was competing the most, now her competition has caught up to her and in big competitions she doesn't have that security blanket that she can just throw all the quads she wants - mess up on them and still win.
It's interesting when you compare Trusova and Shcherbakova.
The last 2 seasons Trusova has tried (in competition) 38 quads and landed 24 (2 with slightly negative GOE). That is a success rate of 63%.
The ones she missed, she fell 12 times and popped 2 quads.
The last 2 seasons Shcherbakova has tried (in competition) 16 quads and landed 12 (2 with slightly negative GOE). That is a success rate of 75%.
The ones she missed, she fell 2 times and had 2 URs.
That means Trusova has tried in average 3,8 quads per competition and with her success rate she is expected to land 2,4 quads.
Shcherbakova has tried in average 2,0 quads per competition and is expected to land 1,5 quads.
So even though Trusova has in average almost the double amount of quads in her programs, she is only expected to land 0,9 more quads than Shcherbakova. And given that Anna has the edge on Trusova on all the other elements + PCS, Anna beats her anyway.
For me it's safe to say that Anna's approach on just doing quads that are working consistently is the better one, even if it means you have to go down to just one quad as she has done so far this season.
Trusova should work on improving her success rate for 2 quads per competition, then she can add more quads.
Edit: I missed one of Shcherbakova's URs so she had a total of 3 URs. But she didn't fall and got loads of points for those jumps anyway. If you count those quads in, Shcherbakova has a succes rate of 87,5% landed quads. That is 1,75 quads per competition.
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I wasn't really trying to compare Shcherbakova and Trusova to each other in that post, but really they can only be compared to each other when talking about their approach because as of right now they were the only skaters to be consistently putting out quads and the only seniors last year. Like the stats that you put together!
The problem Trusova has vs. Shcherbakova right now is that Trusova is deficient to Shcherbakova in her non-jump elements and there's no guarantee that just because she reduces the quads that she does that she'll automatically compensate for those missing points with improvement on her non-jump elements.
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