2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Skatesocs]

Ta, I was just wondering what Skatesocs was referencing! Looked up 'The Willow Meads of Tasarinen' only to realise it wasn't that... need to broaden my literary horizons

You've never read The Raven? Not even seen The Simpsons' version?

 

[iamchrislao]

Wow...the drama happened in just one night...

For Liza B - I'd say it's a good move. I guess we won't see so many fun programs from Liza by Daniil, just like what happened with Kamila, but it's good for her long-term development. Also, great to see Davydov's response, and that's how it should be.

And on the other hand...

What an irresponsible (potential) move from Aliona. Now she has no way of returning to Plushenko, who, despite we're all questioning his coaching ability at the moment, clearly put a lot of effort and money on her. She obviously knew the risks before moving to Plushenko and the fact that he did not have much experience coaching successful skaters, and yet she chose to move. Now she got two brand new programs, skating to music she like (which she claimed she couldn't in Eteri's group), and she want to go back without even consulting with Plushenko? The whole, "Mom Kostornaya was against her leaving Eteri" literally made me gasp. Now they're putting Plushenko in an extremely awkward situation (basically saying he can't coach), and forcing Eteri on moral high ground. IMO Eteri has no responsibility to take her either. These are coaches with human feelings, not robots.

Am I missing something here?

Yes. One party is a kid; the others, adults.

 

[Jeanie19]

She also banned from coaching and choreographing.

That is so sad.

 

[AshWagsFan]

She also banned from coaching and choreographing.

thank you! I knew she must’ve been banned from something else since competing doesn’t seem like something she will return to

EDIT: this is sad for Maria, but if you are caught cheating, you should be punished

 

[Shayuki]

thank you! I knew she must’ve been banned from something else since competing doesn’t seem like something she will return to

EDIT: this is sad for Maria, but if you are caught cheating, you should be punished

Well, she had effectively already retired, but was tested anyway because she hadn't filed her official retirement papers. So it's not quite cheating in a sense of trying to gain an advantage.

Although I guess this lengthy ban is mainly because of her forging documents.

 

[Lechat]

Yes. One party is a kid; the others, adults.

This is why Eteri tried to hold her before doing the biggest mistake of her life.

She has no obligation to satisfy every kids’s whims

 

[lappo]

She is also banned from coaching and choreographing.

That's very harsh, probably harsher than what happened to many athletes who took banned substances during competitions...while she obviously made a mistake and should be punished for it, I think that a one year ban from all skating related activities would suffice, considering that she didn't plan to take part in any competition at the time she was tested. 10 years is almost a life sentence, considering that she was studying choreography at university...

 

[DizzyFrenchie]

It's terrible. No country treats their skaters worse than Russia in terms of the fans.

Not just the skaters. I love ballet and happened to stumble, I don't know how, on a forum of parents of students at the Moscow Choreography Institute (the Bolshoi Academy), insulting each other's child, a horror.
I don't think they really mean it. I rather tend to think they feel entitled to free speech, which was forbidden in their childhood, and believe they can do anything with it, without perceiving it can hurt and do wrong. Yet it remains ugly.

 

[Lechat]

That's very harsh, probably harsher than what happened to many athletes who took banned substances during competitions...while she obviously made a mistake and should be punished for it, I think that a one year ban from all skating related activities would suffice, considering that she didn't plan to take part in any competition at the time she was tested. 10 years is almost a life sentence, considering that she was studying choreography at university...

I agree, how can she make a living if she can’t work in her field

 

[Shayuki]

That's very harsh, probably harsher than what happened to many athletes who took banned substances during competitions...while she obviously made a mistake and should be punished for it, I think that a one year ban from all skating related activities would suffice, considering that she didn't plan to take part in any competition at the time she was tested. 10 years is almost a life sentence, considering that she was studying choreography at university...

No not really, she'll still be young in 10 years. She can do non-skating choreography, I think she can make it work.

 

[nussnacker]

Rozanov denies the rumours that he also asked to return to Krystalni. Not the first time yuzuuzu has spread false information btw. Happens quite a lot with that account
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Lmao, so king of beauty is out there watching all fan IG stories and their speculations as the drama unfolds before his eyes.

 

[vorravorra]

This report didn't come from Plushenko but rather the head of Sambo70. Her health appears to be very bad indeed. Stress fractures, COVID-19, and apparent angina as a result of COVID-19. I couldn't care less who coaches Aliona but that didn't sound like a physical condition compatible with training.

"Angina" in Russian means tonsillitis, not what it means in English. She's been picking up infections because COVID has weakened her immunity. It has been said that Aliona's back, COVID and stress fracture are not her only problems, but I am pretty sure they didn't mean tonsillitis.

 

[Fluture]

I still think Kostornaia would be best off if she went to BOrser or Lambiel. Obviously it’s a pandemic and she can’t really travel but I don‘t see her necessarily being A priority at Sambo-70 now and I don’t think the move to Plushenko was the best for her (better for Trusova Tho IMO)

Aliona with Lambiel is my dream lol but it‘s not gonna happen, even if there wasn‘t a pandemic. When Zhenya switched to Orser she was already a 2x OSM, World/Euro etc. Champ, she had support of the fed and money from competitions and sponsors. None of that is true for Aliona. Sadly.

 

[AshWagsFan]

Aliona with Lambiel is my dream lol but it‘s not gonna happen, even if there wasn‘t a pandemic. When Zhenya switched to Orser she was already a 2x OSM, World/Euro etc. Champ, she had support of the fed and money from competitions and sponsors. None of that is true for Aliona. Sadly.

Right!! They would be a superb matching... it’s unfortunate that her circumstances are the way they are

 

[Skatesocs]

Lmao, so king of beauty is out there watching all fan IG stories and their speculations as the drama unfolds before his eyes.

My name is Rozanov, King of Beauty;
Look on my Triple Axels, ye Mighty, and despair!

(and with that, I'm done with this lol)

 

[Fluture]

"Angina" in Russian means tonsillitis, not what it means in English. But it has been said that Aliona's back, COVID and stress fracture are not her only problems.

Wait, what does it mean in English then, if not tonsillitis? In German it‘s the same as in Russian then, I guess.

 

[rollerblade]

This whole thing involves the head of federation? Why can't they just have meetings behind closed doors and then make the official announcement once decision has been made?

These guys make Antonio Brown sound sane and normal.

 

[Skatesocs]

Wait, what does it mean in English then, if not tonsillitis? In German it‘s the same as in Russian then, I guess.

For me, it means this https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/angina/symptoms-causes/syc-20369373

 

[vorravorra]

Wait, what does it mean in English then, if not tonsillitis? In German it‘s the same as in Russian then, I guess.

Angina, also known as angina pectoris, is chest pain or pressure, usually due to insufficient blood flow to the heart muscle. (Wikipedia)

That would be a condition incompatible with training.

 

[nussnacker]

(and with that, I'm done with this lol)

For today tomorrow we’ll get an update