2021-22 Russian Women's Figure Skating

[Greengemmonster]

Kamila, Anna and Sasha all the way!!!!

My dream team

 

[Arbitrary]

I wonder is it possible having even the slightest probability those two great insurgents (AK & AT) were welcomed home [in one piece] on condition: there is no Olympics bid?
Skate and compete for Chrystal Dome as long as you want but don't even dream about Olympics....

 

[spicymacaron]

I wonder is it possible having even the slightest probability those two great insurgents (AK & AT) were welcomed home [in one piece] on condition: there is no Olympics bid?
Skate and compete for Chrystal Dome as long as you want but don't even dream about Olympics....

Why on earth would they limit their chances to sweep the podium? Liza, Daria and Maiia are not better than Sasha or Aliona.

 

[nussnacker]

If only Russia had at least 4 spots! To the very least, Kamila and all 3A could go. They’re all so talented, I really wish they all made it. If it was more than 4, even better

 

[nussnacker]

I wonder is it possible having even the slightest probability those two great insurgents (AK & AT) were welcomed home [in one piece] on condition: there is no Olympics bid?
Skate and compete for Chrystal Dome as long as you want but don't even dream about Olympics....

LOL. That’s a very bizarre condition to make for an athlete that you’re coaching. It will immediately kill any motivation in an athlete you’re taking, and probably make them waste a season. I don’t think Eteri can promise any of them that they’re 100% making it to the Olympics, but I think she’ll do the best she can for each of them to show their best performances.

 

[macy]

I wonder is it possible having even the slightest probability those two great insurgents (AK & AT) were welcomed home [in one piece] on condition: there is no Olympics bid?
Skate and compete for Chrystal Dome as long as you want but don't even dream about Olympics....

no, thats ridiculous. what kind of trade off is that? what would be the point of even returning?

 

[Arbitrary]

no, thats ridiculous. what kind of trade off is that? what would be the point of even returning?

Promise to be fit for Worlds, Europes, GP. Pluschenko isn't a coach of choice yet. Others also not there.
Both Kostornaya and Trusova may run for WC-22. With Tuktamisheva, may be...

 

[Amei]

I wonder is it possible having even the slightest probability those two great insurgents (AK & AT) were welcomed home [in one piece] on condition: there is no Olympics bid?
Skate and compete for Chrystal Dome as long as you want but don't even dream about Olympics....

That would require buy in from the Fed to happen. I think its more likely Eteri saw the ability to have most skaters on the national team and have most of the contenders for the Olympic team where shes pretty much a guarantee to have 2 skaters at the Olympics if not 3.

 

[LiamV426]

Promise to be fit for Worlds, Europes, GP. Pluschenko isn't a coach of choice yet. Others also not there.
Both Kostornaya and Trusova may run for WC-22. With Tuktamisheva, may be...

Assuming Kamila is the OGM I highly doubt she'd give up her chance to win Worlds as well, especially since with Russian Ladies you have no idea if you'll be replaced by the next rising star in a season or two. Next season I'd be surprised if the Olympic Team wasn't exactly the same as the Worlds Team. Maybe with one skater being swapped out for whatever reason (lack of motivation, injury, etc).

Aliona and Sasha returned to Eteri in order to increase their chances of making the Olympic team, no way are going to settle for GPF/Euros/Worlds, two of which Aliona has already won.

And Eteri herself has always been fair as a coach and gives each skater programs/content that will fully maximise their chances of winning. It's her school's reputation on the line as well and she will want that Olympic podium sweep.

 

[macy]

Promise to be fit for Worlds, Europes, GP. Pluschenko isn't a coach of choice yet. Others also not there.
Both Kostornaya and Trusova may run for WC-22. With Tuktamisheva, may be...

Trusova had no problem making worlds or winning a (lucky) medal there under Plushenko.

 

[Amei]

Trusova had no problem making worlds or winning a (lucky) medal there under Plushenko.

And Kostornaia with weak technical content was extremely to Tuktamysheva's cup final score, had she been a little bit better then she might have been considered more closely for worlds.

 

[Arbitrary]

And Kostornaia with weak technical content was extremely to Tuktamysheva's cup final score, had she been a little bit better then she might have been considered more closely for worlds.

Both were lacking just "a little bit".
Trusova could win WC landing one triple (not quad!) more in the SP and Kostornaya buried herself with all those in-outs...

 

[macy]

Both were lacking just "a little bit".
Trusova could win WC landing one triple (not quad!) more in the SP and Kostornaya buried herself with all those in-outs...

to be fair, everyone was lacking a little bit one way or another this year. if this were any other season they wouldn't have struggled the way they did. there were a lot of factors that affected everyone. that's not to say they wouldn't have struggled at all, just not as badly as this season and things could have turned out differently.

 

[Jontor]

Waiting for the start of the next season, assignments for the JGP and GP, etc. I made the following exercise.

Who do you think will make up the list of 18 skaters for the Senior Ladies National Championship?

My list of possible participants, depending on the results obtained in the different national and international competitions (If Trudeau decides open the Canadian borders), injuries, etc.

Age eligible (>14 years old):

Sofia Akatyeva
Sofia Samodelkina
Sofia Muravyova
Adeliya Petrosyan
Elizaveta Osokina
Elizaveta Berestovskaya*

(Possible National Team members):

Anna Shcherbakova
Kamila Valieva
Alexandra Trusova
Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
Alëna Kostornaia
Daria Usachëva

Other possible participants:

Maia Khromikh
Evgenia Medvedeva**
Elizaveta Nugumanova
Anastasiya Gulyakova
Sofia Samodurova
Ksenia Tsibinova
Anna Frolova

There are only 18 spots. So, Who else do you think will get a spot for this event?

* She was born on December 7, 2007. Is she age eligible?
** If she decides to compete.

Maria Talalaikina!

 

[Jontor]

If we are guseeiing Rus Nats spots here is my prediction:
Qualifies throough competing at Gp events:
Kamilla V
Sasha T
Anna S
Aliona K
Dasha U
Liza T
Maiia K
one or two more of Zenya, Liza N, Sofia S, Nastya G

Qualifies through making the JGPF:
Sofia A
Sofia S
Liza B
Adelya P
Sofia M

That leaves 5 spots for Russian Cup and here anything can happen and we also know RusFed sometimes subs in whoever they feel like:
5 out of the following (where 1-2 might qualify through GP spot)
Liza N
Sofia S
Nastya Guliakova
Natsya T
Nastya Gubanova
Anna F
Ksenia T
Ksenia S

Edit: I know Ive left Medvedeva out of this but with everything thats been going on with her the last couple of years I just dont think she will return to competition. What I think she should do is join Tsurskaya in coaching the younger group. With her personality (which seems verry similair to Eteri) and her time in canada I think she could be a real asset to the team.

You also forgot Talalaikina. Doesn't anyone believe in her?
I would rate her at least above Tarakanova and Gubanova at this point.
And perhaps also above Guliakova, Samodurova and Nugumanova.

 

[CrazyKittenLady]

If we are guseeiing Rus Nats spots here is my prediction:
Qualifies throough competing at Gp events:
Kamilla V
Sasha T
Anna S
Aliona K
Dasha U
Liza T
Maiia K
one or two more of Zenya, Liza N, Sofia S, Nastya G

Qualifies through making the JGPF:
Sofia A
Sofia S
Liza B
Adelya P
Sofia M

That leaves 5 spots for Russian Cup and here anything can happen and we also know RusFed sometimes subs in whoever they feel like:
5 out of the following (where 1-2 might qualify through GP spot)
Liza N
Sofia S
Nastya Guliakova
Natsya T
Nastya Gubanova
Anna F
Ksenia T
Ksenia S

Edit: I know Ive left Medvedeva out of this but with everything thats been going on with her the last couple of years I just dont think she will return to competition. What I think she should do is join Tsurskaya in coaching the younger group. With her personality (which seems verry similair to Eteri) and her time in canada I think she could be a real asset to the team.

And what about Stasya Konstantinova? I hope she can find her form again with coach Vika Butsaeva next season and perform to the best of her abilities!

 

[Jontor]

And what about Stasya Konstantinova? I hope she can find her form again with coach Vika Butsaeva next season and perform to the best of her abilities!

Yes Konstantinova might rebound, and we shouldn't rule out Shulskaya and Sakhanovich just yet. Or Sultanmagomedova and Molchanova.

 

[macy]

Yes Konstantinova might rebound, and we shouldn't rule out Shulskaya and Sakhanovich just yet. Or Sultanmagomedova and Molchanova.

i think all of these girls would have to win everything they enter the entire season straight for them to be a contender in RusFed's eyes. none of them would be taken seriously unless they were beating most of 3A, Kamila, Daria, Maiia and Liza, and thats not going to happen. the damage has already been done for Konstantinova especially.

 

[Jontor]

i think all of these girls would have to win everything they enter the entire season straight for them to be a contender in RusFed's eyes. none of them would be taken seriously unless they were beating most of 3A, Kamila, Daria, Maiia and Liza, and thats not going to happen. the damage has already been done for Konstantinova especially.

Yes, that won't happen. But we were talking about which 18 girls will qualify for RusNats, and there they all have a chance through the Russian Cup.

 

[macy]

Yes, that won't happen. But we were talking about which 18 girls will qualify for RusNats, and there they all have a chance through the Russian Cup.

oops, missed that part. that makes more sense.