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If i could swap the musics.

Anna would get Maia's free skate. Because i want to see her skate something different and i think she would rock that style.
Aliona would get Bolero because i think she's the only one who can elevate that repetitive and insipid music. Only women should skate on this imo and she's the one who looks the most as a woman.
Maia would get Nessun dorma because she needs to emote a bit.
Daria would get four seasons because she has the speed and the liveliness to pull off that music.
Kamila would get Anna's program because i think she would be more elegant and less frantic. That suits her better.
Sasha's music is perfect for her.
 
Well, for people who want some "international judging" on Trusova's LP, apparently Phil Hersh made someone score it:


Wow. Crazy. Shattered the women’s record for a free skate by about 33 points. 33!

Oh, and by the way, if you factor the PCS by 2.0, then it’s the 3rd best free skate score by anyone, male of female, in history. That’s unfathomable.

I think as the days goes by, it’s becoming more and more clearer what kind of history was made on Sunday.
 
If i could swap the musics.

Anna would get Maia's free skate. Because i want to see her skate something different and i think she would rock that style.
Aliona would get Bolero because i think she's the only one who can elevate that repetitive and insipid music. Only women should skate on this imo and she's the one who looks the most as a woman.
Maia would get Nessun dorma because she needs to emote a bit.
Daria would get four seasons because she has the speed and the liveliness to pull off that music.
Kamila would get Anna's program because i think she would be more elegant and less frantic. That suits her better.
Sasha's music is perfect for her.
I agree with you. Particularly Daria getting 4 Seasons.
 
All in all am I the only one to be really underwhelmed with the music choices?
One always hopes that for the Olympic season the skater will get that program that really makes them shine and showcase what we've come to know as their strengths. Their "best one yet", which is admittedly unrealistic. But I feel like all of the girls have had better programs before, maybe with one or two exceptions in either SP or FS.
 
I'll just bring this post here o_O
Shcherbakova TES probably won't be all that great considering all the invalid elements in the skate.
Well, for people who want some "international judging" on Trusova's LP, apparently Phil Hersh made someone score it:


Skating skills seem a bit excessive. But I guess it brings us in the ballpark.
 
Skating skills seem a bit excessive. But I guess it brings us in the ballpark.
Excessive yes, but if this is what they're scoring that performance as, I expect it to be on display at isuresults soon enough. She's doing US Classic, after all.
 
Well, I very much doubt that in real life there would be 4F +4 GOE, and not 4F! with +1/+2. Sasha really had a weak external edge. This is easy to see, since the camera was shooting from the most convenient angle at the time of the jump.
Plus, there is UR on 4S. This is again not difficult to see, and even carefully studying the jump itself, it is clear that the reason is not a dense grouping in the initial phase of the jump.
So the "veteran" was too friendly. I think the correct score is 4-5 points lower. Which, of course, is still a huge score.
 
Gonna try to make this as short as possible :)
Liza's programs were some of my favorites, and I'm as shocked as anyone about it. Every movement in both programs was deliberately choreographed to match the style of the music. FP jumps aside, she ended with the same energy, commitment and attention to detail that she started with. I was pretty impressed.
Maiia's SP style suits her perfectly and I think she's completely committed to the choreography, so it's a little hard to put my finger on why it isn't amazing. Maybe it's too messy? I love her FP dress, possibly my favorite out of everyone's, the flashes of red are just enough - not as heavy handed as that team's costumes often go. I think the beginning of the program is so great and makes her look her best, but towards the end as the lyrics are getting louder and more dramatic, the momentum of the program is really slowing down for me, possibly because of all the rough jump landings.
Daria's SP is nice with some lovely moments, I like the music and I like her. But both the short and the long desperately need long spiral/IB/SE moments. The FP especially needs to build to something exciting and it doesn't.
Aliona I think has the same problem in both programs, which is that the music calls for way more energy and choreography then she's giving/has been given. If she misses the 3A in the short, it's gonna be hard for her to give the rest of the program any swagger. I was really proud of how well she jumped in the free. But her movements are too slow and deliberate for the almost frantic music.
Anna's 2 programs were easily my 2 favorite programs that she's done. The SP was an unexpected deviation from her normal style and she sold it, I think with a full audience applause to carry it it could be a real moment. The last few years her FPs have had the same formula - boring music for most of it, then a dynamic piece right at the end to trick us into thinking we'd enjoyed the whole thing. This one was completely different - all the music cuts were interesting and exciting and brought out the best in her, she actually looked powerful. I was along for the ride, and for the first time ever I thought I wanted to see her skate at the Olympics. I'm confused about her jumps tho, it seemed like besides the double axel, all the jumping passes started with a lutz or flip, but that's not possible? I hope she gets a more interesting dress.
Kamila is obviously doing the same program to different music in the SP, and while with Storm the choreography hit the accents of the music, this one doesn't so it's not as special. She is special, so it's kind of a shame that the program is just ok. I don't think the mistakes in the long are a sign of what's to come, rather that they'll light a fire under her for next time.
Sasha's SP was one of my favorite's that she's ever done, there was way more choreography than I was expecting. All it needed was a few bold smiles and changes of expression, and I would have been completely sold. I actually loved her in that dress, I think the simplicity made her look more grown up than ever, and the matching colors made me smile. The quad axel talk is nonsense, she over-rotated because she doesn't get enough distance. The FP was disappointing choreography wise, the music is so fun and she has a couple cool moves but I think she's capable of way more than they gave her. The jumps were obviously impressive if a little rough, and I hope they only get better throughout the season. If that's her final Cruella dress I'm gonna fight someone.
 
Gonna try to make this as short as possible :)
Anna's 2 programs were easily my 2 favorite programs that she's done. The SP was an unexpected deviation from her normal style and she sold it, I think with a full audience applause to carry it it could be a real moment. The last few years her FPs have had the same formula - boring music for most of it, then a dynamic piece right at the end to trick us into thinking we'd enjoyed the whole thing. This one was completely different - all the music cuts were interesting and exciting and brought out the best in her, she actually looked powerful. I was along for the ride, and for the first time ever I thought I wanted to see her skate at the Olympics. I'm confused about her jumps tho, it seemed like besides the double axel, all the jumping passes started with a lutz or flip, but that's not possible? I hope she gets a more interesting dress.

Shcherbakova's FS layout at Test skates is a placeholder; the plan in competition is going to be to turn some of those triples into quads; instead of doing a different layout since she didn't want to do her quads yesterday she just did triples in their place - which makes a ton of sense to build/keep muscle memory of the layout. Technically speaking if she did the layout from test skates in competition she would have several invalid elements due to zayaking.

But technically outside of the 1 solo double axel all of her jumping passes start with a quad or triple lutz or flip to maximize her points, based off what she's typically done.
 
If i could swap the musics.

Anna would get Maia's free skate. Because i want to see her skate something different and i think she would rock that style.
Aliona would get Bolero because i think she's the only one who can elevate that repetitive and insipid music. Only women should skate on this imo and she's the one who looks the most as a woman.
Maia would get Nessun dorma because she needs to emote a bit.
Daria would get four seasons because she has the speed and the liveliness to pull off that music.
Kamila would get Anna's program because i think she would be more elegant and less frantic. That suits her better.
Sasha's music is perfect for her.

That's a pretty nasty comment, the rest of the skaters in her discipline are women, just because they don't look the way you envision a woman to appear doesn't make them any less qualified to skate to Bolero.
 
That's a pretty nasty comment, the rest of the skaters in her discipline are women, just because they don't look the way you envision a woman to appear doesn't make them any less qualified to skate to Bolero.
Sorry if it sounded rude.
But Kamila is litteraly 15yo. She's physiologically, mentally and legally a child. Not a woman yet.
For me the essence of Bolero is made for adults. That's why i said last year that juniors shouldn't skate on it. I found ridiculous the (unfair) comparisons between Kamila's bolero and Kostner's bolero. You can't compare the interpretation of a grown-ass woman of 27yo who has an experience and an appearence that the just out of the womb Kamila didn't had. A 14yo can't be as much convincing on that music as an adult imo.
So yes, Kostornaia is the adult here and she has better skills to be convincing on bolero.
 
Sorry if it sounded rude.
But Kamila is litteraly 15yo. She's physiologically, mentally and legally a child. Not a woman yet.
For me the essence of Bolero is made for adults. That's why i said last year that juniors shouldn't skate on it. I found ridiculous the (unfair) comparisons between Kamila's bolero and Kostner's bolero. You can't compare the interpretation of a grown-ass woman of 27yo who has an experience and an appearence that the just out of the womb Kamila didn't had. A 14yo can't be as much convincing on that music as an adult imo.
So yes, Kostornaia is the adult here and she has better skills to be convincing on bolero.
I agree with this but I also think you're missing the point in Kamila's case.
They are not trying to interpret Bolero as one would expect Bolero to be interpreted aka the standard and obvious interpretation that a let's say Kostner did. And did, for many people, as well as it could ever be done. So skaters would be strongly advised to avoid trying to go down that route cause they will only compare negatively to that iconic Olympic program.
They are, according to them, portraying a snake. A bunch of contortions, the costume etc. For Daniil the music apparantly seems to sound like some kind of oriental-passing piece and Kamila is a snake moving to it.
If one thinks that is a great idea or absolutely idiotic and an insult to Bolero is for everyone to decide for themselves.
But under that light, no need to be mature or a "woman" to skate to it and do it well.
 
Some of the components, StSq and 4F were judged wrong.
Oh? Well the judge disagreed with you. :) After all the perfect judging in 2021 worlds according to you, I think we should consistently agree with the veteran, international judge, and not you and me :) After all, there is no such thing as "wrong" by the judges (insulting to the judges, according to you), and I'd hate to insult the judges!
 
Oh? Well the judge disagreed with you. :) After all the perfect judging in 2021 worlds according to you, I think we should consistently agree with the veteran, international judge, and not you and me :) After all, there is no such thing as "wrong" by the judges (insulting to the judges, according to you), and I'd hate to insult the judges!
Wrong in a sense that (for example) two of his marks for components are out of the corridor of actual judges scores from the event... Like, in another example, the flip was judged as it is jumped with the right edge...
 
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