2021 Asian Open: Entries

[figureskatingandrainbows]

The entries for the CS Asian Open are out!
Men
Yudong Chen CHN
Boyang Jin CHN
Paul Fentz GER
Harrison Jon-Yen Wong HKG
Lap Kan Yuen HKG
Yuma Kagiyama JPN
Shun Sato JPN
Junhwan Cha KOR
Sihyeong Lee KOR
Deniss Vasiljevs LAT
Lucas Britschgi SUI
Jimmy Ma USA
Camden Pulkinen USA
Women
Hongyi Chen CHN
Shan Lin CHN
Yi Zhu CHN
Marilena Kitromilis CYP
Eliska Brezinova CZE
Jenni Saarinen FIN
Kristina Isaev GER
Nicole Schott GER
Joanna So HKG
Rika Kihira JPN
Kaori Sakamoto JPN
Eunsoo Lim KOR
Seoyeong Wi KOR
Maral-Erdene Gansukh MGL
Thita Lamsam THA
Teekhree Silpa-Archa THA
Tzu-Han Ting TPE
Mariah Bell USA
Gabriella Izzo USA
Pairs
Cheng Peng/Yang Jin CHN
Wenjing Sui/ Cong Han CHN
Yuchen Wang/Yihang Huang CHN
Siyang Zhang/Yongchao Yang CHN
Emily Chan/Spencer Akira Howe USA
Audrey Lu/Misha Mitrofanov USA
Ice Dance
Tina Garabedian/Simon Proulx Senecal ARM
Hong Chen/ Zhuoming Sun CHN
Shiyue Wang/Xinyu Liu CHN
Misato Komatsubara/Tim Koleto JPN

Unless more skaters are added to the Pairs or Ice Dance category, this event will not count as a Challenger as only two disciplines will fill the quota for a Challenger and it needs three disciplines to qualify.

 

[Skatesocs]

Good competition in both ladies and men.

 

[yume]

Now that it's challenger (and the olympic test event) the line-up is more varied. I don't remember that much europeans.

I assume that there won't be a junior and novice competition as before?

 

[Skatesocs]

Now that it's challenger (and the olympic test event) the line-up is more varied. I don't remember that much europeans.

I assume that there won't be a junior and novice competition as before?

I think Pairs and ID won't count for WS or SB (whichever it is that a non-Challenger doesn't get). But the men and ladies have some very good names.

 

[Skatesocs]

@Andrea82 Does this competition qualify as a Challenger?

 

[mikeko666]

@Andrea82 Does this competition qualify as a Challenger?

I'm not @Andrea82, but don't think so.

At least three disciplines must have the minimum numbers of entries.

The minimum number of entries per discipline:
• Men / Women: minimum of eight (8) entries each, from at least four (4) ISU Members;
• Pair Skating: minimum of five (5) entries from at least three (3) ISU Members;
• Ice Dance: minimum of six (6) entries from at least four (4) ISU Members.

Neither Pairs nor Ice Dance has the minimum.

 

[Skatesocs]

I'm not @Andrea82, but don't think so.

At least three disciplines must have the minimum numbers of entries.

The minimum number of entries per discipline:
• Men / Women: minimum of eight (8) entries each, from at least four (4) ISU Members;
• Pair Skating: minimum of five (5) entries from at least three (3) ISU Members;
• Ice Dance: minimum of six (6) entries from at least four (4) ISU Members.

Neither Pairs nor Ice Dance has the minimum.

Yeah that's what I thought... I hope they add two more entries to Dance (for some reason, a Chinese dance team that said they would be competing isn't on the list... And they could maybe have the Korean team compete), but not sure it can be done.

 

[mikeko666]

Kaori and Misato/Tim might withdraw because they are scheduled to compete at Skate America next week. Actually, I never thought they would enter Asian Open Trophy because of Skate America. I rather expected Kana and Dai to enter, but they aren't even in S.

 

[Skatesocs]

Kaori and Misato/Tim might withdraw because they are scheduled to compete at Skate America next week. Actually, I never thought they would enter Asian Open Trophy because of Skate America. I rather expected Kana and Dai to enter, but they aren't even in S.

Right. Actually, I think some others might too if they see it's not a Challenger and they won't be getting whichever perks a challenger gets them (again, IDR if it's WS or SB). I hope they don't, but they might. So I hope somehow they can still add the needed entries to ID or Pairs (Pairs is even easier, I guess, they just need one Pair from whichever other country) - but I don't know if it's possible.

 

[Jeanie19]

Can't men's and ladies only be declared a Challenger? I'm confused on the rules.

 

[Skatesocs]

Can't men's and ladies only be declared a Challenger? I'm confused on the rules.

For it to be a challenger, at least three disciplines need to qualify the minimum requirements. Men and Women do, but since neither Pairs nor ID does, we have only two disciplines that count - which means the competition overall isn't a Challenger.

 

[Jeanie19]

For it to be a challenger, at least three disciplines need to qualify the minimum requirements. Men and Women do, but since neither Pairs nor ID does, we have only two disciplines that count - which means the competition overall isn't a Challenger.

I hope that some more entries happen. It would be sad for the skaters if this isn't a Challenger.

 

[Skatesocs]

I hope that some more entries happen. It would be sad for the skaters if this isn't a Challenger.

I hope so, just not sure if they can cram someone in now that entries are closed? But yes, they just need one more pair from a different country. (Actually confused how China's got four entries in Pairs, maybe it's a mistake lol)

I'm also hoping Kana/Dai make it in, but that has nothing to do with the requirements

 

[Andrea82]

The full rule is in Challenger Series announcement states:

Each International Competition as part of the ISU Challenger Series in Figure Skating must consist of “Senior” categories (see ISU General Regulations 2021, Rule 108, paragraph 3.a) and must include entries in at least three (3) disciplines of the Figure Skating Branch (Men, Women, Pair Skating, Ice Dance) from a minimum of ten (10) different ISU Members, in all disciplines combined.
In addition, the minimum number of entries per discipline are as follows:

• Men / Women: minimum of eight (8) entries each, from at least four (4) ISU Members;
• Pair Skating: minimum of five (5) entries from at least three (3) ISU Members;
• Ice Dance: minimum of six (6) entries from at least four (4) ISU Members.

Last year Budapest Trophy had Men, Women and Ice Dance disciplines scheduled. ID got only 3 entries (so they didn't meet the entry requirements for a Challenger).
If I read the rule as having 3 disciplines with entries from at least 10 ISU Members and in addition 3 of them having the stated required number of entries, well, it shouldn't be considered a Challenger Series event anymore, wouldn't it?
However, somehow, they still considered the scores as Season Bests (not only for Men and Women but also for Ice Dance).
Last season World Standings points weren't awarded anywhere except at Worlds, so we can't check how they would have behaved for Men and Women (ID wasn't entitled of them for sure). Men and Women would have been entitled but Challenger Series events get more WS points than "other international" events.
This is the only occasion I remember with a Challenger Series event ending with only 2 disciplines with the required number of entries (well, one discipline wasn't included in first place).

 

[Skatesocs]

The full rule is in Challenger Series announcement states:

Each International Competition as part of the ISU Challenger Series in Figure Skating must consist of “Senior” categories (see ISU General Regulations 2021, Rule 108, paragraph 3.a) and must include entries in at least three (3) disciplines of the Figure Skating Branch (Men, Women, Pair Skating, Ice Dance) from a minimum of ten (10) different ISU Members, in all disciplines combined.
In addition, the minimum number of entries per discipline are as follows:

• Men / Women: minimum of eight (8) entries each, from at least four (4) ISU Members;
• Pair Skating: minimum of five (5) entries from at least three (3) ISU Members;
• Ice Dance: minimum of six (6) entries from at least four (4) ISU Members.

Last year Budapest Trophy had Men, Women and Ice Dance disciplines scheduled. ID got only 3 entries (so they didn't meet the entry requirements for a Challenger).
If I read the rule as having 3 disciplines with entries from at least 10 ISU Members and in addition 3 of them having the stated required number of entries, well, it shouldn't be considered a Challenger Series event anymore, wouldn't it?
However, somehow, they still considered the scores as Season Bests (not only for Men and Women but also for Ice Dance).
Last season World Standings points weren't awarded anywhere except at Worlds, so we can't check how they would have behaved for Men and Women (ID wasn't entitled of them for sure). Men and Women would have been entitled but Challenger Series events get more WS points than "other international" events.
This is the only occasion I remember with a Challenger Series event ending with only 2 disciplines with the required number of entries (well, one discipline wasn't included in first place).

And can they still add entries just in case?

 

[icybear]

Wait so Beijing is able to allow international athletes during October. And without quarantine I guess because no one is going to go if they have to stay in a hotel for 3 wks beforehand. But they cant host COC or 4CC? This is confusing. Is this due to different regional guidelines

 

[Gia_Sesshoumaru]

Wait so Beijing is able to allow international athletes during October. And without quarantine I guess because no one is going to go if they have to stay in a hotel for 3 wks beforehand. But they cant host COC or 4CC? This is confusing. Is this due to different regional guidelines

I don't know about the quarantine issues, but the main issue with 4CC and CoC was inbound flights - CoC was in Chongqing and 4CC was in Tainjing. This event is Beijing.

 

[Andrea82]

And can they still add entries just in case?

I would say yes. It wouldn't be the first time that some new names pop up later. Autumn Classic (whose pair competition wasn't even supposed to be a Challenger when the Challenger Series was announced) saw the 2 US Pairs being added later.

 

[Skatesocs]

I would say yes. It wouldn't be the first time that some new names pop up later. Autumn Classic (whose pair competition wasn't even supposed to be a Challenger when the Challenger Series was announced) saw the 2 US Pairs being added later.

Great, fingers crossed!

Thanks!

 

[yqs100]

Wait so Beijing is able to allow international athletes during October. And without quarantine I guess because no one is going to go if they have to stay in a hotel for 3 wks beforehand. But they cant host COC or 4CC? This is confusing. Is this due to different regional guidelines

its because coc and 4cc are organized by local government (chongqing and tianjin), they dont want to take any risk to host international event. however, for asia open, which is an olympic test event, which is the national level government decision. unless the olympics is postponed, otherwise its a must do event.