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When did Anna last perform 4Lz? Even though she did 4Lz first I always thought 4F looked more solid, but her 4Lz is really beautiful.
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I'm curious, does anyone believe Anna didn't deserve her three Russian titles and the world title? The usual criticism brought up is "under international judging" - but the world title was literally under international judging, at least.
I have troubles with her scores (like with everyone else's), but can't fault most of her medals. In fact, I'd probably upgrade her junior world silver to a junior world gold...
I have troubles with her scores (like with everyone else's), but can't fault most of her medals. In fact, I'd probably upgrade her junior world silver to a junior world gold...
Well this is a loaded question... I think she earned her titles, the argument I've heard against her is that she won them because other stronger skaters messed up, had Valieva not botched her triple axel in the SP, Trusova her SP combo at Worlds, etc. That might be a valid argument if she only ever won 1 title, but she's only finished lower than second in her international career (junior and senior) once, and won maybe the hardest Nationals 3 years in a row, with equal chance to mess up as anyone else had at those competitions.
Russian Nationals last year.
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Shouldnt the tougher programs be more rewarded by the judges than the easier programs as you detailed?
The skaters have been all over the place in the beginning of the Olympic season but even more worrisome has been the judging so far. It's been all over the place and these people are in their forties or fifties or sixties and they should know better. Maybe they need younger judges who haven't been around for 20 or 30 years and developed bad habits like the older judges have.
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I wonder how she could have won worlds and be the best scoring lady at WTT with "international judging"...
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I'd say she might have been a bit lucky when she won her first title by 0.07. If Trusova hadn't tried the 4T (she fell) and done a 3S instead she would have beaten Anna. Alëna had a fall in the Steps in the short but it wouldn't have mattered if she was clean.
But on the other hand Anna messed up a spin as well so she also lost points.
In 2020 Anna was almost clean, just a step-out on the 4F. It looked to me like the judges did everything they could to hold up Alëna but it wasn't enough. Anna won fair and square imo.
Last year she was the clear winner with 10+ points. There is absolutely no question here imo.
There is an argument to make that Anna might have been unlucky as well two years ago. If she had stood up on the 4F at GPF she would have won. Also at Europeans, she got some questionable calls in the long, she would have won without that. The international judges made a clear statement here though. Anna almost caught up Alëna on PCS so the gap was shrinking fast. We will never know, but if Worlds had happened that season she might have won it.
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Oh i'm loving this. Good work Amei. Creative.
Sweet angelic Anna will be out for blood at nationals! I think we all trust her more than any other Olympic eligible Russian ladies.
She has the coach gene you just cannot teach.
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While this is a true statement, I always hate it simply because that can be said of any competitor in any competition where someone performed better. But like you said, everyone had equal chances to mess up or be clean. Winning comes down to not only having the goods but being able to deliver them.
To me Anna's greatest strength is her ability to deliver better than others under pressure at the big events. Sasha struggles with it and Valieva has had her share of misses as well.
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They had like maybe 1/4 of the competition Anya has faced faced winning nationals at 14, 15 and 16.
That's sad she needs to be confident in her quads again to make it 4 in a row.
I doubt that ... first Alysa has to land one without fall, ur, stepts in a senior competition with true competition ... and even without 3A .. alena only needs to skate clean .. and for Liza ... she has one of most consistent 3A
Has Alysa ever landed 3 clean 3a in 1 competition? And even if she has, it would have likely been 2 years ago. At the moment the most she can muster is 1 clean 3a in a competiton whereas Elizaveta has just landed 3 in one just a few wks ago
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When was the last time Aliona landed a 3A? Has she even landed one for the past 2 years? When was her last successful 3A? 2020 Europeans?
Lol bye
Lipinski? What is recent memory lol?
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Oh I didn’t know that. Just curious, and hoping Anna can do the same.
Baiul 1994 and Lipinski 1998 are the only other ones.
yes they should be and for the most part they are; the breakdown I showed was comparing 1 difficult panel and an easier/more generous panel; had both ladies been scored by the same panel either both at Finlandia or both a Budapest, their scores would be different and I don't think it would be in Tuktamysheva's favor.
The general point i was making on the analysis I did was that Tuktamysheva's layout is a problem, she was pretty flawless and only got a couple points more than a skater with multiple errors called.
Full disclosure, that's a funny Instagram account I follow, I didn't make it. I just thought it was appropriate for the discussion that was being had
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And Yamaguchi in 1992, Witt in 1988 also. I'm probably older and my recent memeory goes further back
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