2021 Skate America: Men's Short Program

[Lutzedge]

Each skater (except Jimmy) had something off. Hopefully it goes better in the FS!

 

[LadyB]

My predictions are well and truly rubbished by the look of it. This could be the most interesting season in men's skating in a long time - even if it's in a different way then we'd hoped for.
Thanks for your wonderful company, see yous later!

 

[Seven Sisters]

When was the last time a splat-fest of this level was witnessed? It couldn't have been all the way back in Sochi with the Men's Free.

I would suggest that 2006 Olympics FD was comparable splatwise—especially when you consider that ice dancers don’t jump

 

[Seven Sisters]

But Jimmy Ma!!!!

Moonvine, I think you must be responsible for this; did you do some hexing, so Jimmy would medal?

 

[anonymoose_au]

Ahmahgawd.

Vincent is in first!!! You go, sir! You go!

Really enjoyed Shoma and Jimmy (does taking your hair elastic out mid-program count as a costume change? ) Kevin's step sequence was awesome as always and Nathan was a surprise, but he's sure to come back in the FS.

Ah those menfolk they love making it a rollercoaster ride!

 

[ramurphy2005]

Nathan's going to be mad at himself, and he turns out some great free skates when he's mad at himself. I'm not expecting 2021 Worlds level from him, but I expect a better skate.

 

[SkatersWaltz]

Certainly not the level of skating I expected tonight Hopefully, tomorrow the cobwebs will be swept away and the we'll see some great skates! I am a little baffled that Nam's score is only 74. There is no way that the PCS of both French skaters should be higher than Nam's PCS. They made major errors on most if not all of their jumps and they still beat Nam's PCS? If everyone skates clean, then yes, I would put Kevin's PCS above Nam's but the judges really need to start deducting more PCS for disaster skates. It really disrupts every part of the skating and therefore the artistic merit of the overall skate. Otherwise, it's not fair to the other skaters who skated better overall.

 

[el henry]

Well. I step away from the forum for the last skaters, and....wow.

I'm not as worried about Nathan, he's not injured, he's had "off" days before. (not many, but some)

But Kevin and Shun

Please skating gods heal them and let them withdraw!

 

[Lutzedge]

Well. I step away from the forum for the last skaters, and....wow.

I'm not as worried about Nathan, he's not injured, he's had "off" days before. (not many, but some)

But Kevin and Shun

Please skating gods heal them and let them withdraw!

After Kevin's fall on his flip, I thought that he was going to withdraw.

 

[Hyena]

It's not unusual for a men's GP to turn into a mess, they just usually wait for the FS.

 

[rollerblade]

Shoma got a "CCoSp4V" in protocols? I forgot what the V stands for, but it was a significant drop in base value.

 

[BlissfulSynergy]

Shoma won this event in 2016 when he was still a baby phenom, who lacked ice coverage and who had some technique issues on some of his jumps. The judges were blinded by his smooth, flowing, sublime movement qualities, and the fact he could land quads. Jason Brown or Adam Rippon should have won that year because they both brought gorgeous skating, maturity, and the weaving of stories on the ice. Jason did land his quad in the fp, but the judges refused to recognize that he did.

Not sure what's going to happen in the free program. Will Nathan be fired up to bring it, or is his head somewhere else in this Olympics year? Will Vincent prevail, or will Shoma grab gold? Will Jimmy Ma make the podium? Will one of the other guys make a come-from-behind stab at brilliance? Adam Siao Him Fa has two great programs, and he should do well if he could calm down. Kevin Aymoz is so talented. I hope Kevin redeems himself in the fp, and just enjoys his skating.

These are all fascinating questions to ponder.

 

[readernick]

Shoma got a "CCoSp4V" in protocols? I forgot what the V stands for, but it was a significant drop in base value.

He didn't get enough revolutions in all of the positions. ( I think it is a minimum of three?)

 

[figureskatingandrainbows]

Nathan has some pressure on him. Shoma and Vicent are both going for 5 quad programs, and had almost clean run-throughs. Even if Nathan wins the free, if the two of them go almost clean, the deficit after the short might be big enough that he loses. He needs to be perfect, and hope the other guys make mistakes.

 

[figureskatingandrainbows]

This was the worst event I've ever watched. Congrats to all involved. Also, Shun, Kevin, PLEASE withdraw.

 

[BlissfulSynergy]

Nathan has some pressure on him. Shoma and Vicent are both going for 5 quad programs, and had almost clean run-throughs. Even if Nathan wins the free, if the two of them go almost clean, the deficit after the short might be big enough that he loses. He needs to be perfect, and hope the other guys make mistakes.

Yes, but Nathan is capable of a 6-quad program. I just don't think Nathan needs to put out too much OTT energy at this competition. He just needs to skate clean and do what he's capable of doing here. Maybe he's been worried about the hit to his reputation after his perfectly innocent, but ill-thought out comments in that interview he gave to two hosts who understand zip about the sport of figure skating.

 

[BlissfulSynergy]

Also, Shun, Kevin, PLEASE withdraw.

Well, Shun is injured, so he should consider withdrawing. I'm not sure whether he's concerned about points, or whether his fed is placing pressure on him to compete.

Kevin does seem like something is bothering him physically or mentally. But he should try to overcome and do his best in the fp.

 

[BlissfulSynergy]

They made major errors on most if not all of their jumps and they still beat Nam's PCS?

Kevin and Nathan have overall better PCS than Nam, even with technical mistakes. Nam has never been a PCS giant-killer.

 

[karne]

Well, Shun is injured, so he should consider withdrawing. I'm not sure whether he's concerned about points, or whether his fed is placing pressure on him to compete.

Kevin does seem like something is bothering him physically or mentally. But he should try to overcome and do his best in the fp.

No, if Kevin is injured, or even if something is bothering him mentally that badly, he should withdraw. What he put out there today was dangerous. If he's not already injured - which he is - he will be if he continues to skate like that.

They should both withdraw. We should only have a 9 man FS tomorrow. We won't. And unfortunately, it sounds like both feds have a hand in that.

 

[Mauvedreamer]

What a disaster darling!! Lol. .. Nathan will be fine. He is a very level headed guy. I have no concerns at this point in the season. Congratulations to Vincent . Wishing them all better FS. Makes for a more interesting competition.