Bingwa Geng: China's new hope for the Olympics??
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Bingwa is so adorable, her basic skating skills impress me as much as her full set of triples. And from what I've red, she started skating when she was only 2 and a half years old, so maybe....single axel from a 3 year old??
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Yeah, it's way too early. It seems like there is always a phenom waiting to break out, then that little thing called puberty monster bites most of them in the arse. I think this is why I don't get too excited about Caroline Zhang now.
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http://www.unitribu.net/2008/01/07/2007-bingwa-geng-ladies-lp_china-gp-beijing
Bingwa Geng, the 12 year old
Chinese skater from city Qiqihar, had just
gathered her 2nd silver medal from senior ladies event this Jan. Under the music Dating back 70 years ago, she completed five triples (though it had mistakes) and well executed the Caroline Zhang’s trade mark spin in the long program, that totally brought her 136.30 as final scores. Bingwa had actually caught all the attentions in this downturn of ladies single skating in China.
Touching the ice at age 2.5, Bingwa was like “born” for figure skating. Her name in Chinese means “ice doll”. And she has a father who was hockey
player. At her father’s request, she started to receive professional training of figure skating at age 6 and had 10 years of experience on ice now. She trains now 2 hours a day and 6 days a week. She never thought training was a hard thing as she loved to skate and enjoyed the atmosphere of competitions. Her idol is Yu-Na Kim.
Bingwa Geng, the 12 year old
Chinese skater from city Qiqihar, had justgathered her 2nd silver medal from senior ladies event this Jan. Under the music Dating back 70 years ago, she completed five triples (though it had mistakes) and well executed the Caroline Zhang’s trade mark spin in the long program, that totally brought her 136.30 as final scores. Bingwa had actually caught all the attentions in this downturn of ladies single skating in China.
Touching the ice at age 2.5, Bingwa was like “born” for figure skating. Her name in Chinese means “ice doll”. And she has a father who was hockey
player. At her father’s request, she started to receive professional training of figure skating at age 6 and had 10 years of experience on ice now. She trains now 2 hours a day and 6 days a week. She never thought training was a hard thing as she loved to skate and enjoyed the atmosphere of competitions. Her idol is Yu-Na Kim.
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It is about nothing. agreed. Another talented kid but for me, I want to see them at 18 when they are young ladies with all the true feminine feelings.
btw. Odile is much more of a seductress than Carmen and much less flamboyant.
At their age, both Liza and Bingwa Genn are much too young to put feeling into the music. They should concentrate on the basics and elements.
I like talented kids to develop into very good skaters. I'm not interested in the 'youngest champion ever'.
Joe
Her favorite skaters are Yu-Na Kim, Carolina Kostner and Kimmie Meisner.
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her inbetween skating still looks very much like a 7 year old, but her doubles are pretty good. Spins are good, not great, and her costume desginer is very imginitve
. Very cute little girl but who knows what will happen? She need more technical content in her SP, she had one 2 lutz/1toe a 1 axel and a 1 flip. Maybe the flip was supposed to be a 2? can't tell.
The only thing they share I can think of is lack of flexibility
Kimmie Meissner was a phenom herself, being a novice champion anb with her triple axel. I wonder what Yuna Kim was like when she was Bingwa's age. Was she not a prodigy for international standard? She surely didn't get her share of hype until she beat Mao Asada.I figure the common ground these three share is that all of them are relatively 'tall'.
Geng seems to be worried about her future 'growth spurt'. She even complained to her parents about them being 'too big', and not wise to let her learn figure skating while she was very young... Her fater was a hockey player about 175 cm.
Figure skating is supposed for petite girls, those who do not have 'good genes' must be worried big time. haha.
Does anybody know whether that petite 11-year-old Russian girl has the 'right' gene? How tall/big are her parents?
Isn't 175cm below average for a man? Or do I not understand the metric system lol. Bingwa, from what I saw, seems to have a completely different body type from Yuna or Kimmie's. Kimmie used to be very slim, and Yuna has what Dick Button would call a Balanchine body. I guess she would have a body like Slutskaya. Speaking of Slutskaya, not everyone has to be Yuna thin to be successful, no?
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For anyone who does not understand the Ballanchine body, it means that he was interested only in students who had short torsos and long legs. I think that was touched upon in Center Stage (the movie) but balletomanes know it anyway.
In skating there is something nice about that figure. The stroking and the cutbacks or back crossovers, whatever, take on a magnificent flow. If I remember correctly, Denise Bielman had that.
If Bingwa develops in that direction, she will be a very special skater.
Joe
In skating there is something nice about that figure. The stroking and the cutbacks or back crossovers, whatever, take on a magnificent flow. If I remember correctly, Denise Bielman had that.
If Bingwa develops in that direction, she will be a very special skater.
Joe
Unfortunately, I don't believe that's the direction her torso/legs are heading... :
Her coach already pointed out this 'shortcoming'. The best she can hope is Arakawa-type, .... Irina-type might still be okay,... The worst, I don't know...
Is Carolina Kostner Ballanchine type?
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It's ok for Bingwa. She can still win the Olys if she gets the most points.Unfortunately, I don't believe that's the direction her torso/legs are heading... :
The best she can hope is Arakawa-type, .... Irina-type might still be okay,... The worst, I don't know...
Is Carolina Kostner Ballanchine type?
Carolina has the body but I don't see her using it a la Ballanchine So few ice skaters can really mimic ballet except in their arms and some spirals. It's not easy because they are not able to bend the foot. Curry was able to mimic a cabriole. But you'll never see a skater do glisade jete tan leve assembee - a simple combination of steps but skaters have that blade that prevents that. Although I think Browning might mimic it somehow. :yes:
Joe
I frankly don't understand what you were talking about, but that's okay. :chorus:
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The music she's skating to is called Somewhere in Time, an OST to a movie by the same name. The movie is boring as hell but I love the music. This is the music I thought Yu-na should have skated to. What's ironic is that this girl whose "idol is Yu-na Kim" has a "Yu-na" feel to her skating as well. She's physically more like Caroline, but the way she skates reminds me of Yu-na.
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Maybe because she has big jumps? Especially the toe-jumps.
Yeah, she seems to jump higher and more lightly and effortlessly. Caroline's jumps are really low and whenever I watch her - and Alyssa too - I'm nervous she's going to trip on her toepick and fall.
It depends on the country/region. In Europe or the USA 175cm may be just a little below average, but still considered average. In Asia where people are generally shorter 175cm may be considered tall.
China with billions of people has to put more efforts in FS, because chinese girls have the perfect bodies to be FS champions. It's a shame they don't develop their talents.
What is positive is that Caroline Zhang could soon become a role model not just for USA girls but for many chinese girls too. It's great that Bingwa does the pearl spin. Zhang at 15 years has already an influence.
About Liza, she has to deal also with the Russian fed. Russia had many talents in the late 90s, early 00s, but unfortunately Russian fed destroyed it all.
Nina is another talent as well as a japanese girl named Ringa (???), but we know that USA and Japan know how to develop champions and deal with talents.
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Yup!
I don't know how the Korean federation structures lower-level competitions, but in the short program she was probably doing what was required at that level. Does anyone here have more knowledge on that subject?
In the US, the lowest level that has a short program is intermediate -- juveniles just do their freeskate (three times if necessary for elimination rounds at regionals). The US intermediate SP jump requirements are single axel, solo double jump, and double-double or double-single combination.
Because of her age and skill level, this girl looks like she would be an average (and very young) juvenile or very good (and young) prejuvenile if she were competing in the US. If there *were* such a thing as a prejuvenile SP, 2-1 jump combination and solo single jump might be the maximum allowed.
I would expect that Korean rules would allow 2-2 combos in the free program at Da-Bin's level, but it may be that no skaters or very few at that level ever do them.
She's certainly on track so far.
I'm a little surprised there's no internet vide of Nina Jiang, actually.[/QUOTE]
Well, there is, but not for free.
