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I would have been more hopeful if KV's suspension had been reinstated and she was eliminated from competition.
Kamila Valieva: Anti-doping Case and Follow-ups
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Yeah, as I said before I highly doubt whatever investigation their gonna do will be fair. No offense to Kamila, but the fact that sipping water from her granddad's glass was taken as a valid excuse says it all. Props to the lone Russian woman in RUSADA who saw the ridiculousness in that like most of us do, disagreed with the others who lifted her ban
Unfortunately for her, I think the financial support from Russia after winning gold may be carrying more weight and most important to her and her family, and that may be her only concern at this time. It is a sad situation all the way around.
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I don't want to go into legal details, but theft and robbery belong to a different category of crimes. A crime that would be similar to the doping situation would be driving under influence. In this case a person can be acquitted if it is established that their blood alcohol levels were positive due to a medical condition (like diabetes), or a person consumed something which he or she did not know contains alcohol, which is the case with some dairy products due to fermentation.
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What on earth is THAT supposed to accomplish? This is getting more absurd by the minute.
edit: OK, having read some earlier posts, I guess I understand. The IOC is covering their collective backsides...
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so why was Calalang ultimately found innocent? Or the Rickard case?
It's a broken system... power with no accountability should never go together.
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Well, it should make for some interesting case law when someone claims their blood alcohol level was high because they drank from a water glass that a drunk once used.
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I think the problem is just that no matter how competent you are, doping (like any drug administration) is never an exact science - and while the doctor has gotten caught before, he also hasn't gotten caught again until now, which means it's been over a decade. So seen from that angle I guess his track record is actually quite good?
For me, the most likely explanation is that they administered this drug frequently and that it must have had some effect, because as you say, otherwise, why risk it? The man's an anaesthesist, afaik, and if there's no benefit to administering it only sometimes... well, the most likely explanation is, they didn't only give it to her sometimes. Clean tests before and after don't necessarily prove that she was always clean then, just that they timed the dosage better (and that's not only for Valieva, of course, this goes for any athlete of any country; microdosing and and ever-evolving development of new chemicals pretty much guarantee that no doping test is foolproof). Figure skaters don't get tested every week, after all. But as I said before, we'll never know the truth here without a whistleblower or something.
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Actually, it makes a lot of sense if the objective is to be fair to the entire field. See my post above #3210.
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Yes indeed. Alcohol I am not sure about, but it should not be an impossible defense line with drugs. As long as the court fails to establish presence of guilt you can get get away with even more unlikely explanations. At least that is the case where I live.
However, the grandpa twist has not been confirmed yet, right? The source that published it first is not particularly credible if I understood correctly.
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The extra skater will come in the FS. As if she is DQ no can say the extra skater did not get to skate the FS, Also I think there will be 7 skaters in the last group instead of 6.
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(sorry if posted before, there were too many pages to go through)
Yuna's reaction:
Yuna's reaction:
The WADA statement reads as follows: "[...] While WADA has not received the reasoned award, it appears that the CAS panel decided not to apply the terms of the Code, which does not allow for specific exceptions to be made in relation to mandatory provisional suspensions for 'protected persons', including minors. [...]"
So WADA is making assumptions at the moment and again CAS is responsible to interpret the rules and not the WADA, but of course you know it for sure. And of course you also know the matter better than the experts of the CAS who have far more information. The WADA Code at least offers the possibility of lifting the provisional suspension in some cases. Subsumption in this case is certainly very complex. With the information that has been published, it is not at all possible to assess the judgment of the CAS conclusively from a legal point of view.
At least not if your name is not cisum88note.
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WADA issued an advisory that trimetazidine could show up in urine samples as a false positive for lomerizine, a migraine medication that is permitted. American swimmer Madisyn Cox successfully proved that a vitamin supplement she had been taking was contaminated with trimetazidine. It could be a false-positive result or a legal medication was contaminated with trimetazidine. It takes more time to investigate this matter further.
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Yes, I saw some other posts and edited my OP. Thanks.
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Except the “full case file” isn’t relevant here. The panel issued a brief, two-page decision setting forth its reasoning, such as it was. That’s essentially all anyone needs to know to understand the decision.
It is normal practice for adjudicators to look to the plain meaning of statutes and rules as written, not to decide what they “should” say, as was done here. Nor would “general principles of fairness” be considered if - as Wada itself believes - the document itself was clear. The panel created a problem that didn’t exist in order to reach the result it wanted.
Incidentally, I think your criticisms against others as blindly arrogant are way off base.
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I found a source for you. Actually, there are many sources, but this one is a bit easer to understand than others owing to chemistry data involved. This source is footnoted to peer-reviewed science journals.
The half life of TMZ is 7.81 hours for a young person. 11+ for an older person. The tests were on 35 mg tablets, as far as I can tell.
Trimetazidine: Uses, Interactions, Mechanism of Action | DrugBank Online
Trimetazidine is a piperazine derivative indicated as an adjunct therapy in symptomatic treatment of stable angina pectoris.
go.drugbank.com
Later edit: 7.81 years changed to 7.81 hours. Brain fart.
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So if the Russians didn't compete, Bradie would settle for a place behind the Japanese and wouldn't try to beat them? If she wasn't satisfied with that, nothing would change for her. What kind of weird logic is that?
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wowI found a source for you. Actually, there are many sources, but this one is a bit easer to understand than others owing to chemistry data involved. This source is footnoted to peer-reviewed science journals.
The half life of TMZ is 7.81 years for a young person. 11+ for an older person. The tests were on 35 mg tablets, as far as I can tell.
Trimetazidine: Uses, Interactions, Mechanism of Action | DrugBank Online
Trimetazidine is a piperazine derivative indicated as an adjunct therapy in symptomatic treatment of stable angina pectoris.
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