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They didn't even include Artemeva and Nazarychev with their new partners. But Yasmina is included.
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That’s weird. Mironov could have still been junior, I think.They didn't even include Artemeva and Nazarychev with their new partners. But Yasmina is included.
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Mironov is already 21 years old. And he is paired with Taisia Sobinina. The pairing with Geinish probably would not have lasted too long anyways, but it's still strange to see him change a partner every season. I'm also surprised that Artemeva/Briukhanov were not offered a spot on the junior team.
Still so much time left. And I don´t even know what my babies M/G will skate to.
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Yeah, the mind boggles. Then again, it's probably because these teams are not tried and tested...but neither is Kadyrova/Kolesov.They didn't even include Artemeva and Nazarychev with their new partners. But Yasmina is included.
Super happy for Akopova/Rakhmanin (I think they were reserve last year) and for the Junior Reserve spot for Marinina/Finokhin. I'm sure Mukhortova/Evgeniev make it to the first team next season.
To be fair, most of the newly created pairs are only ‘potentially’ good. They don’t deserve to be on the team at this stage.
Sobinina-Mironov - Mironov is great but Sobinina does not deserve it, and pair will be only as good as the weaker skater. Sobinina will have to earn it first.
Labazina- Nazarychev - same as above. Nazarychev is great, Labazina used to be decent but then she disappeared and last season was very under average.
Pavlova- Sviatchenko - they may not even plan to skate for Russia.
Geinish-Chigiriev - she was great last season and Chigiriev is useless. Again, he doesn’t deserve it.
Kadyrova-Kolesov - I think they were a bit lucky to be included, but atleast none of them is considered a weak partner (yet).
Boyarintseva-Pleshkov- neither of them deserves it based on their results from last season.
Artemeva-Briukhanov - I think their results in their previous partnership would be comparable to Kadyrova-Kolesov and if K/K got it, A/B should have been included too, but to be fair, neither Briukhanov nor Kolesov had a good season. They were the weakest junior pairs last season, and they were supposed to be on top in juniors. They have been competing as juniors internationally quite a few seasons, so this should have been their season. (One could blame Kostiukovich and Akhanteva for their lack of success last season, but pair skaters are evaluated as a pair.)
I think there are only three spots for the reserve team, one can’t argue that Mukhortova/Yevgeniev and Khabibullina/Kniazhuk deserve spot more than Kolesov or Briukhanov, and the federation has to choose between K/K and A/B who will get the third spot. I am also guessing that senior reserve offers more funding than junior main team…
Sobinina-Mironov - Mironov is great but Sobinina does not deserve it, and pair will be only as good as the weaker skater. Sobinina will have to earn it first.
Labazina- Nazarychev - same as above. Nazarychev is great, Labazina used to be decent but then she disappeared and last season was very under average.
Pavlova- Sviatchenko - they may not even plan to skate for Russia.
Geinish-Chigiriev - she was great last season and Chigiriev is useless. Again, he doesn’t deserve it.
Kadyrova-Kolesov - I think they were a bit lucky to be included, but atleast none of them is considered a weak partner (yet).
Boyarintseva-Pleshkov- neither of them deserves it based on their results from last season.
Artemeva-Briukhanov - I think their results in their previous partnership would be comparable to Kadyrova-Kolesov and if K/K got it, A/B should have been included too, but to be fair, neither Briukhanov nor Kolesov had a good season. They were the weakest junior pairs last season, and they were supposed to be on top in juniors. They have been competing as juniors internationally quite a few seasons, so this should have been their season. (One could blame Kostiukovich and Akhanteva for their lack of success last season, but pair skaters are evaluated as a pair.)
I think there are only three spots for the reserve team, one can’t argue that Mukhortova/Yevgeniev and Khabibullina/Kniazhuk deserve spot more than Kolesov or Briukhanov, and the federation has to choose between K/K and A/B who will get the third spot. I am also guessing that senior reserve offers more funding than junior main team…
But I am also excited to see them with their new partners. And which of them will beat the other 
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Still miss Panfilova and Rylov.
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I just noticed that they are not here! Does this mean that they have retired?
I think there is every reason to include ME or KK ahead of the newly formed pairs AB and KaKo. A proven team, much less two that qualified for the JGPF, senior nationals, is past puberty and has solid elements, should always get favoring over one partner. The federation clearly liked Briukhanov and blamed all of KB's issues on Polina, but no matter how great of a skater Alexei may be on paper, his greatest accomplishment according to the objective criteria are two bronze medals on the JGP and 4th place at junior nationals - two seasons ago. While Artemeva may be more accomplished, especially at the senior level, they would merit nothing more than a spot on the junior team (for which they are age eligible!)
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I think Rylov is still dealing with his back injury.
But they are creating a pair in life now
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Ilya Mironov is my favourite of all the upcoming pairs guys. What's going on with his partner changes is such a waste of potential. I wonder what could have been with Diana if they had stayed together and worked through her temporary problems with getting used to her adult body. Who's to say that they couldn't have had a similar senior career trajectory as M/G?
Also not sure about the transition to Plushenko, who has zero experience with pairs. Although I realize he's also "acquired" some of Mozer's coaches.
ETA: Now what also would excite me would be a pairing of Osokina/Mironov. Imo, Osokina is wasted on Antonyshev.
Also not sure about the transition to Plushenko, who has zero experience with pairs. Although I realize he's also "acquired" some of Mozer's coaches.
ETA: Now what also would excite me would be a pairing of Osokina/Mironov. Imo, Osokina is wasted on Antonyshev.
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Plushenko (if anything) will most likely only be working on their non-pairs elements, i.e. jumps.
The largest part of the training will be done by Arina Ushakova, who switched to AoP alongside Mironov and some of her other students. So, not really a complete change, mainly just a new location and a few different jumping specialists/off-ice trainers.
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And probably coaches in AoP won't change Mironov's partner every year.
You are hoping that Diana could get the jumps back, but she was not landing them for over a year. Yes, in theory she could get them back, but she could also end up like Kostiukovich- not being able to get them back for 2-3 years with any further outcome uncertain. Would you risk it if you were Mironov? They have only one career and the number of years one can skate is limited, so I don’t blame him that he decided to do what he thought was best for him. Besides, the breakup did not come from him, it was the coaches decision and he only did what he was told to do. When I saw him with Geinish this season, it confirmed to me that it was the right decision.
Your comparison to Mishina - well, Mishina may have had problems with weight during her puberty, but she continued to land her jumps, unlike Mukhametzianova. So the comparison is not very good one. Comparing apples and oranges?
Osokina is quite robust for a pair skater. Not saying overweight, not at all, but not as tiny and skinny as some female pair skaters are. Mironov is quite a slim guy. Antonyshev is well build (more robust) guy. I think Antonyshev will be a better partner for Osokina. This is pair skating; there is lots of lifting involved. Physically, Antonyshev’s body matches Osokina better than Mironov’s body. But that’s just my view.
Not necessarily. It only means that they did not compete and therefore did not have opportunities to earn their spot this past season. Russian federation does not give spots to those who did not earn it.
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I am someone who really really liked Geinish and Mironov. In fact I owned their fanpage. Despite how charismatic and amazing they were together, it was clear from the start that they would not last long (she was quite a suitable partner for Andrey Rud, IMO) due to the fact that their elements were taught in a very rushed manner, and therefore the foundational technique wasn't there and everything was shaky. Her jumps are impressive but they won't last long, and when she grows Mironov probably won't be able to lift her any easier than Mukhametzianova. It was his last season in juniors, and she is now back to square one with another partner, so essentially Mozer wasted an entire year for both of them. As a side note, I also liked Kostiuk/Chigiriev, and I'm sad to see them go. I don't like the height/age difference in Geinish/Chigiriev and I anticipate that Mozer will find him another girl within a year.
When a partnership clearly isn't working, then change it. But when it's working or when there is a strong possibility of a rough patch being overcome, then why change it and prevent a partnership from reaching its full potential?
When a partnership clearly isn't working, then change it. But when it's working or when there is a strong possibility of a rough patch being overcome, then why change it and prevent a partnership from reaching its full potential?
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Usacheva only competed a few times, and since then has proven that she has barely regained even the basic jumps. Even at her peak, her content and scoring potential was far below that of Samodelkina. And yet she was given to the reserve team. The previous years, Danielian and Kolyada were even put on the team after a full year of absence. I really hope you are right, all my other favorites have split up.
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I think comparing Diana to Mishina is more fair than to Polina. They are all quite curvy skaters, which is looked down upon unfortunately, many coaches give up on girls who are built like that. The difference is that Nastia and Diana both have good foundational technique, which Polina (or Geinish, for that matter) never did. Nastia did not revert back to her pre-pubertal body in order to maintain their jumps, rather she relied on her solid and steady technique. It should be noted that MG and MM are a little different - without their spectacular jumps, MM would likely have never made it to the international scene. Their pair elements were average at best and often missed levels and GOE. MG on the other hand, stayed together long enough to develop a stunningly consistent and well executed "whole package"
Firstly, I don’t think you can compare it with men because men is much weaker field, so they have much more space it give to someone who was good in the season before and not in the current season, if from some reason could not skate the past season.
I agree that Usacheva only competed a few times this season, but she did medal internationally, at her GP event, and has a genuine reason (injury) why she hasn’t competed for the rest of the season (e.g. at the nationals). Results at GP are one of the criteria to earn the spot, and Usacheva was good enough to earn it at the competition she competed. Whether she regained jumps since then is not really relevant.
The big difference is that one of them kept her jumps throughout, and the other one lost her jumps and has struggled for three seasons now. For you the difference may be small, if you only concentrate on the shape of their bodies and not on their skating, but the jumps are relevant. That’s why Mishina is a world champion and has bronze medal from Olympics, whereas Kostiukovich without jumps will be lucky to find a partner. And even if she does, she will needs the jumps before she will even qualify to another nationals. She is currently considered by the federation as a lower level skater, a bit like Kudriavtseva and Spiridonov. Successful in the past, but not going anywhere. It is harsh, but it is the reality.
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