2022-23 Russian Pairs Figure skating

[flanker]

Artemeva is paired with Briukhanov now, they will train under Sliusarenko.

 

[flanker]

Again, very rough picture about the next season...

And we should not forget that Sui/Han are probably retiring too, and some others (DellaMonica/Guarise). This won't be a season the be followed.

 

[lariko]

Again, very rough picture about the next season...

And we shouldnot forget that Sui/Han are probbly retiring too, and some others (DellaMonica/Guarise). This won't be a season the be followed.

It isn’t, internationally, if you factor in splits and doping as well. The only bright spot is the return of Zabiiako to skate for Canada. It sucks.

 

[flanker]

It isn’t, internationally, if you factor in splits and doping as well. The only bright spot is the return of Zabiiako to skate for Canada. It sucks.

I agree on that. an aquintance of mine elsewhere already counted that for pairs, I hope he won't mind I will list it here:

77 pairs in best list now, 15 of them Russians, 2 Belorussian, so that leaves us 50. At least 6 (maybe more) retired, split or have another obstacle like Barquero, we have 44. 13 are juniors (not counted russian junior pairs), let's say half of them will remain juniors (I've looked only briefly for their age), so count that as another 6 less. We have 38 and that is still very rough number. For the full GP entries when everyone gets 2 spots we need 24 pairs, which means practically everyone who is not injured/sick/retiring/split/in jail gets an entry just to keep the competition going. The quality will be adequate (and maybe even the risk of injuries if they really try to fill the missing spots by skaters for whom that will be above their qualities).

 

[lariko]

I agree on that. an aquintance of mine elsewhere already counted that for pairs, I hope he won't mind I will list it here:

77 pairs in best list now, 15 of them Russians, 2 Belorussian, so that leaves us 50. At least 6 (maybe more) retired, split or have another obstacle like Barquero, we have 44. 13 are juniors (not counted russian junior pairs), let's say half of them will remain juniors (I've looked only briefly for their age), so count that as another 6 less. We have 38 and that is still very rough number. For the full GP entries when everyone gets 2 spots we need 24 pairs, which means practically everyone who is not injured/sick/retiring/split/in jail gets an entry just to keep the competition going. The quality will be adequate (and maybe even the risk of injuries if they really try to fill the missing spots by skaters for whom that will be above their qualities).

Basically, I was surprised they said pairs will compete in each of GP stages, because it is so close, but they can probably cut down number of entries per event to 6-8. Fingers crossed safety is not overlooked and pairs are not entering unprepared for GP level. Maybe Korovin gets to compete as well…

 

[LadyB]

Again, very rough picture about the next season...

And we should not forget that Sui/Han are probbly retiring too, and some others (DellaMonica/Guarise). This won't be a season the be followed.

Definitely not internationally. I'm still looking forward to all Russian events, but at the same time, it breaks my heart that my favs won't be able to prove their class in international competitions.

 

[flanker]

Definitely not internationally. I'm still looking forward to all Russian events, but at the same time, it breaks my heart that my favs won't be able to prove their class in international competitions.

I was intending to write "this won't be an international season to be followed" but somehow I forgot the word "international".

Of course ISU can still dismiss the incriminating communication or CAS can turn it, but so far I would rather not rely on anything.

 

[LadyB]

I was intending to write "this won't be an international season to be followed" but somehow I forgot the word "international".

Of course ISU can still dismiss the incriminating communication or CAS can turn it, but so far I would rather not rely on anything.

Sorry, I didn't clarify my thoughts.
Of course, I knew you meant 'internationally'. I know you've got your heart in the right place.
I fear you are right and the decision is unlikely to be changed.

 

[flanker]

Sorry, I didn't clarify my thoughts.
Of course, I knew you meant 'internationally'. I know you've got your heart in the right place.

Thank you

I fear you are right and the decision is unlikely to be changed.

Well, mr. Bach made another statement on the reasons why russian athletes should not be let to international competitions. It's for their protection:

Глава МОК объяснил отстранение российских спортсменов защитой их самих

Отстранение российских спортсменов от международных соревнований призвано в первую очередь защитить самих атлетов, заявил президент Международного олимпийского... РИА Новости Спорт, 08.06.2022

rsport.ria.ru

Somehow I don't believe him.

 

[LadyB]

Thank you


Well, mr. Bach made another statement on the reasons why russian athletes should not be let to international competitions. It's for their protection:

Глава МОК объяснил отстранение российских спортсменов защитой их самих

Отстранение российских спортсменов от международных соревнований призвано в первую очередь защитить самих атлетов, заявил президент Международного олимпийского... РИА Новости Спорт, 08.06.2022

rsport.ria.ru

Somehow I don't believe him.

Bach has been top of my black list since 2018. Just glad he, during the Beijing Olympics, repeatedly called the Chinese 'best friends' despite ongoing human rights abuses. No sign of double standards in the IOC. What a guy!

 

[flanker]

Bach has been top of my black list since 2018. Just glad he, during the Beijing Olympics, repeatedly called the Chinese 'best friends' despite ongoing human rights abuses. No sign of double standards in the IOC. What a guy!

Maria Lasitskene (high jumper, gold medalist from Tokio) wrote an open letter to Bach, I've posted it in women's thread, so to not double it I just link it:

2022-23 Russian Women's Figure Skating

why not a gp in Belarus? That would make it International and not just domestic. Yeah, one stage in Minsk would be great but I suppose the whole format is still only in development.

www.goldenskate.com

 

[lariko]

Well, the only cases I can think of if fans misbehaviour were related to Hanyu, so I move we protect the Japanese athletes next.

 

[lariko]

#10 just announced retirement as well (not unexpected)

At this rate, tbh, we can just tentatively remove 'Russian' from the title of this thread and call it Pair Skating, Season 2022-23

 

[Jasira]

#10 just announced retirement as well (not unexpected)

At this rate, tbh, we can just tentatively remove 'Russian' from the title of this thread and call it Pair Skating, Season 2022-23

Well, at least in Russia there will be excellent pair skating next season. With all the splits in pair skating right now I´m just happy that my favorites Mishina/Galliamov and Pavliuchenko/Khodykin won´t split next season.

 

[lariko]

Well, at least in Russia there will be excellent pair skating next season. With all the splits in pair skating right now I´m just happy that my favorites Mishina/Galliamov and Pavliuchenko/Khodykin won´t split next season.

Maybe they can add more steps to the podiums!

 

[flanker]

To preserve the category the number of entries from one country could be increased (I know it won't happen but a boy can dream ).

 

[hanca]

Maybe they can add more steps to the podiums!

I don’t need them to add more steps at the podium, but I would like them to add number of pairs competing at the Russian senior nationals. At least 16 pairs, please (although I think they would be able to find even 20). Considering how many junior pairs have aged out of juniors, I would be quite happy if junior nationals have only 12 pairs as it has been until now.

 

[lariko]

I don’t need them to add more steps at the podium, but I would like them to add number of pairs competing at the Russian senior nationals. At least 16 pairs, please (although I think they would be able to find even 20). Considering how many junior pairs have aged out of juniors, I would be quite happy if junior nationals have only 12 pairs as it has been until now.

Where do I sign?

 

[AlexBreeze]

National team

Senior
Karina Akopova/Nikita Rakhmanin, Aleksandra Boikova/Dmitri Kozlovskii, Anastasia Mishina/Aleksandr Galliamov, Daria Pavliuchenko/Denis Khodykin, Evgenia Tarasova/Vladimir Morozov
Senior reserve
Yasmina Kadyrova/Valerii Kolesov, Anastasia Mukhortova/Dmitri Evgeniev, Natalia Khabibullina/Ilya Knyazhuk

Junior
Anastasia Egorova/Rodion Marinskiy, Ekaterina Petushkova/Evgeni Malikov, Elizaveta Romanova/Valeri Nazarov, Varvara Cheremnykh/Daniil Butenko, Ekaterina Chikmareva/Matvei Yanchenkov, Maiia Shegai/Igor Shamshurov
Junior Reserve
Sofia Marinina/Nikita Finokhin, Alisa Rodionova/Alexei Karpov

 

[lariko]

National team

Senior
Karina Akopova/Nikita Rakhmanin, Aleksandra Boikova/Dmitri Kozlovskii, Anastasia Mishina/Aleksandr Galliamov, Daria Pavliuchenko/Denis Khodykin, Evgenia Tarasova/Vladimir Morozov
Senior reserve
Yasmina Kadyrova/Valerii Kolesov, Anastasia Mukhortova/Dmitri Evgeniev, Natalia Khabibullina/Ilya Knyazhuk

Junior
Anastasia Egorova/Rodion Marinskiy, Ekaterina Petushkova/Evgeni Malikov, Elizaveta Romanova/Valeri Nazarov, Varvara Cheremnykh/Daniil Butenko, Ekaterina Chikmareva/Matvei Yanchenkov, Maiia Shegai/Igor Shamshurov
Junior Reserve
Sofia Marinina/Nikita Finokhin, Alisa Rodionova/Alexei Karpov

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