2022-23 Russian Women's Figure Skating

[Lurker11]

But what about GP/JGP series. Without Russians, and considering the amount of retirements, it will be a bad circus.

Of course, but Russia have already committed to a packed domestic season. I’m looking forward to it.

Competition will as be as intense as any other year. They will all want to be the top skater in Russia like every other year. Valieva will have everything to prove, Trusova the same. Then all the younger skaters breathing down their neck.

 

[flanker]

Of course, but Russia have already committed to a packed domestic season. I’m looking forward to it.

Competition will as be as intense as any other year. They will all want to be the top skater in Russia like every other year. Valieva will have everything to prove, Trusova the same. Then all the younger skaters breathing down their neck.

Well of course if Russians won't skate internationally and there will be russian GP (and probably the usual russian cup, the proposed russian GP series should not replace it but exist beside of it), then I don't care about the international GP at all (maybe with the exception of two or three skaters) and will watch the russian GP and cup.

 

[LiamForeman]

A 4Lo+1Eu+3F from Sofia S!!! (not sure how old)

This is probably the wave of the future with quads and quad combos in women's skating. To replace the lower value salchow with the 3flip. Anything to gain an edge. I like how she silently worked her way up the ranks with little fanfare, and now she has landed all five quadruples excluding axel. I also like her style, and her Carmen was very different.

 

[Skatelife]

Well of course if Russians won't skate internationally and there will be russian GP (and probably the usual russian cup, the proposed russian GP series should not replace it but exist beside of it), then I don't care about the international GP at all (maybe with the exception of two or three skaters) and will watch the russian GP and cup.

I will be watching Russian grand prix, here the competition will be higher, to have a good link

 

[Jasira]

Well, I think we won´t find a consense on this topic. Some think the ban is acceptable, others disagree. But this thread is not for political discussion. It´s about russian women figure skating.

I´m looking forward for next season, even if it means only domestic competitions for the Russian athletes. Most of my favourite skaters are Russians, so I will follow closely the Russian Grand Prix series (much more than the ISU Grand Prix).

I hope that my favorite Anna will stay in competitive skating. Her participation in the Averbukh show kind of remind me of Alina, when she started to take part in the Ice Age show and never came back to competition.

 

[uwoawuwoa]

Well, I think we won´t find a consense on this topic. Some think the ban is acceptable, others disagree. But this thread is not for political discussion. It´s about russian women figure skating.

I´m looking forward for next season, even if it means only domestic competitions for the Russian athletes. Most of my favourite skaters are Russians, so I will follow closely the Russian Grand Prix series (much more than the ISU Grand Prix).

I hope that my favorite Anna will stay in competitive skating. Her participation in the Averbukh show kind of remind me of Alina, when she started to take part in the Ice Age show and never came back to competition.

Do you think that Alina would continue competing if she had a quad or triple axel and could remain on podium? Or do you think she would have chosen to stop competing as she won pretty much everything?

Edit: Typo

I am also very excited for this season even if domestic. I'll get to see all my favorite Russian figure skaters and non have retired (except for Samodurova but it made sense and I wish her lots of success).

 

[Jasira]

Do you think if Alina would continue competing if she had a quad or triple axel and could remain on podium? Or do you think she would have chosen to stop competing as she won pretty much everything?

That´s a difficult question. Alina basically stopped competing when Sasha, Anna and Aliona turned seniors. She started the season, but changed her mind mid-season. So probably without the 3A she would have ended this season. But I´m not so sure, if she would still compete now. When you have won everything, it must be very difficult to stay motivated, especially with a tough coach like Eteri.

And Alina seems pretty happy nowadays with doing shows and TV stuff. So I´m happy that she found happiness in life without the pressure of competing against the brutal Russian competition. Her Don Quichote Olympic program is one of the figure skating programs I rewatched the most.

 

[uwoawuwoa]

That´s a difficult question. Alina basically stopped competing when Sasha, Anna and Aliona turned to seniors. She started the season, but changed her mind mid-season. So probably without the 3A she would have ended this season. But I´m not so sure, if she would still compete now. When you have won everything, it must be very difficult to stay motivated, especially with a tough coach like Eteri.

And Alina seems pretty happy nowadays with doing shows and TV stuff. So I´m happy that she found happiness in life without the pressure of competing against the brutal Russian competition. Her Don Quichote Olympic program is on of the figure skating programs I rewatched the most.

Yes, I absolutely love her olympic programs. It's also one of my favorites and got my sister interested in watching figure skating as well

 

[Skatelife]

The advantage of the Russian GP series is that any competition will be stronger that any all growth artistic women with underotated 3-2, it's better to have 6 stronger Russian ladies in each stage, at least for me.

 

[Jasira]

The advantage of the Russian GP series is that any competition will be stronger that any all growth artistic women with underotated 3-2, it's better to have 6 stronger Russian ladies in each stage, at least for me.

I prefer the Russian GP series as well. But I want skaters who are the complete package. Not only jumps.

 

[Scott512]

I wonder if there's any other sport where there is still such discrimination based on sex (not to mention score multipliers). It's like saying hey, you are just women, you can't do the same things as strong men do! But in fact it's more like saying we have to keep Russian women caged... Oh, wait, they banned them anyway...

That about sums it up Azi. Its sad but true.

I am sure you notice they raise the age limit it will go up significantly in the next year or 2 and of course they did not raise the Age limit for the ladies and it will go up 2 years in the next year but they do the same for the men?

Meanwhile Yuzu or Ilia will likely do 4A next season That will be very bad for the body. Yet Anna KV and Sasha can't even do one freaking quad in the SP. Like I said it's all been geared towards the Russian ladies for 4 years.

 

[flanker]

Do you think that Alina would continue competing if she had a quad or triple axel and could remain on podium? Or do you think she would have chosen to stop competing as she won pretty much everything?

Edit: Typo

I am also very excited for this season even if domestic. I'll get to see all my favorite Russian figure skaters and non have retired (except for Samodurova but it made sense and I wish her lots of success).

Alina herself said she did not wat to start competing during the 2019/20 season, eteri was able to persuade her to at least try it at the beginning. In other interview during that time Alina said she was training a 4F with some solid degree of success, so I think technically she was still able to rival Anna/Sasha/Aliona - her best scores were still on the similar level. But the fatigue was stronger, the pressure she was under before the 2019 worlds when everyone was like "she's gone" etc. probably took most of the competitive excitement from her.

 

[Skatelife]

I prefer the Russian GP series as well. But I want skaters who are the complete package. Not only jumps.

Yes I agreed, but most of the time Russians girls are treated as they don't have any skating skill. I rather the complete package

 

[flanker]

(Clockwise) There are olympic champions, there is an olympic champion, there are olympic champions and - there is not an olympic champion. Thank you ISU for "unifying people".

 

[JazzUp]

Thank you ISU for "unifying people".

that omission - you could call it childish, if it weren't actually disgusting by this point already

 

[Amei]

(Clockwise) There are olympic champions, there is an olympic champion, there are olympic champions and - there is not an olympic champion. Thank you ISU for "unifying people".

I looked at the replies and they are getting roasted rightfully so... let's be clear its international Olympic day, they didn't have to use 2022 Olympians and if they didn't want to use 1 Olympian because of her nationality they should have picked 1 2022 Olympian, a historical Olympic champ or no picture at all but to use 3 olympic champions and then use the bronze place finisher to avoid using a Russian is disgusting especially when Shcherbakova avoided the Kremlin meeting (possibly deliberate).

 

[flanker]

I looked at the replies and they are getting rotated rightfully so... let's be clear its international Olympic day, they didn't have to use 2022 Olympians and if they didn't want to use 1 Olympian because of her nationality they should have picked 1 2022 Olympian, a historical Olympic champ or no picture at all but to use 3 olympic champions and then use the bronze place finisher to avoid using a Russian is disgusting especially when Shcherbakova avoided the Kremlin meeting (possibly deliberate).

Exactly, there were plenty of other things they could do but this is completely stupid, it only brings hatred and bitterness. And yes I'm glad people are letting them to eat that.

 

[Scott512]

that omission - you could call it childish, if it weren't actually disgusting by this point already

It is disgusting they never ever have anything to say about the greatest figure skating Country and this goes back years and years.

I mean couldn't we at least get a unfortunately we are Banning the Russians and Belarus famous for next season but we hope to have them back as soon as possible?
No we can't get that. Russian figure skaters are the enemy of the international skating Union the question now is when will the Russians actually realize that? If there's any legal way the ioc and International skating Union can strip all the medals from the recent Winter Olympics you they will do so because according to the ioc Russia broke the Olympic truce. I guess no other country did in the past hundred years.

The excuse that this is for safety reasons we are canceling the Russians is nonsense because dozens of Russians and Belarus tennis players just play the French Open with no incidents or problems.

It's also long overdue for Anna and Sasha and everyone of the Russian skaters who follows the ISU on Instagram to stop that. And while they're at it they can stop following Gabrielle Papadakis and Johnny Weir and all the people who have Barry Russian figure skating.

Missing the next World Championships means Anna and Sasha will have missed three of four World Championships in their career that's a killer. Obviously Anna Sasha or aliona would have won the 2020 World Championship so that was the coronavirus season.

 

[Alex Fedorov]

(Clockwise) There are olympic champions, there is an olympic champion, there are olympic champions and - there is not an olympic champion. Thank you ISU for "unifying people".

I just can't find the right words. What happened to them - they were seized by a manic desire to embarrass themselves as much as possible? Well, the goal is achieved - this is an absolutely disgusting act.

 

[Scott512]

(Clockwise) There are olympic champions, there is an olympic champion, there are olympic champions and - there is not an olympic champion. Thank you ISU for "unifying people".

I said for months that things will get worse for the Russian skaters before they get better and this is holding true. Now this tweet is not that big a thing in the scheme of things but it's twisting the knife in the back of the great Russian figure skaters who won twice as many figure skating medals as the second-best country at the recent Olympics.

It's sad to see the leaders of a sport that they say unifies the world is sacrificing Russian figure skaters careers for their hatred of Russia and their leaders and their culture and their history and that's what this is really about.

Meanwhile Russian figure skaters on Instagram and telegram act like everything is fine they are smiling and having fun just wait till next season as they won't be smiling because there won't be a next season for them with the ISU.

But I am sad that the great Russian figure skaters who was Stellar at the Olympics are not being recognized by their organization the international skating Union. And this all I bet comes from the ioc.

It's also disappointing that no one in figure skating has spoken up for the Russians the way the tennis players have taken control with tennis to have the back of Russia and Belarus tennis players because everyone knows Sports and politics should not mix but they do in figure skating.