You are comparing skaters whose hardest elements were 3F-3T, 3S-3T with skaters who not only has to deal with quads and 3A, but also with stronger competition.
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Lol, what? I know time flies fast, but this is a bit concerning. I recommend walnuts and pumpkin seeds...
Didn't Medvedeva jump those combos almost all her career?Lol, what? I know time flies fast, but this is a bit concerning. I recommend walnuts and pumpkin seeds...
My bad, maybe i should have also talked about Zagitova's 3lz-3lo?
I won't talk about Shcherbakova because she isn't from the same generation of the first two and had harder tech. But even her wasn't always perfect.
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impressive isn't the word I would use...test skates isn't worth the risk of worsening the injury, but that's just my opinion
Agree, weirdly I think part of it is related to the lack of international exposure for the newer generation (Junior season loss due to covid and the current situation). Which I have 2 thoughts on it:
- On 1 hand: You would think more international competitions where they don't deal with consistently having other skaters present at the competition doing quads/triple axels would make them more lackadaisical with being clean because you can be 'messy' on quads/triple axels because your BV advantage is so much higher than your competitors.
- On the other hand - maybe they have been too quick about trying to learn additional quads/triple axels vs. stabilizing/being consistent on 1-2 of them because they need more in case the other Russian lady lands her quad and/or triple axels.
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Option 3:
Adeliia could do what Zagitova did, and with her eyes closed.
Zagitova & Medvedeva skated in farmer's league. Born in this era they would've quit skating before any of you even heard their names.
Shcherbakova is olympic champion so comparing anyone to her is completely fruitless. Literally zero insight with that comparison.
What Zagitova did is she skated against untouchable two-time World Champion Medvedeva record holder and she beat her.
Then she skated against peak form triple axel sensation, GPF champion record holder Kihira and crushed her as well.
Adelia skated against Frolova and Kulikova and fell twice.
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Lukashova has left Bulycheva. Is there any rumors on where she could have transferred to?
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If Adelia skated Zagitova’s programs, she would never fall since they are of easier technical content.What Zagitova did is she skated against untouchable two-time World Champion Medvedeva record holder and she beat her.
Then she skated against peak form triple axel sensation, GPF champion record holder Kihira and crushed her as well.
Adelia skated against Frolova and Kulikova and fell twice.
But that is not even relevant in any case. Adelia’s era and Zagitova’s era are 2 different sports that are incomparable.
The champions of the past should be celebrated, and you have to judge them for what they did in their time, not how they would do today. This is true in all sports.
I compared competitive toughness in my original post.
Agreed on technical content being incomparable.
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To be fair, it wasn’t Zagitova’s competitive toughness that won her the Olympic gold, it was the bonus points from the jumps.
And I want to make this crystal clear: I’m not minimizing her efforts, she is the legitimate Olympic gold medalist. She legally outscored her opponent.
I make no secret that I am a fan of both Zagitova and Medvedeva. I’m not in the camp of choose one or the other.
If we are talking about competitive toughness and mental toughness, I’ll take Anna all day, every day, and twice in Sundays. Unmatched before or since.
Zagitova was tough. She had been capricious in training, but when she was well-prepared she always delivered.
I remember Gleikh saying something like "we looked into Alina eyes and that's it, we knew she came to win" (before 2019 Worlds).
Agreed. Will and composure of hardened steel, well-prepared or not.
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Liza T misses the season 
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I kinda saw this coming as she has been very busy and will be continuing to be busy with shows this season.Honestly let the woman make some money now that there is lots to be made out of shows, the chances for admission to international competition this season are low anyway. She might comeback next season tho, if someone will it would be Liza.
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Shes been saying she has no motivation for a bit. If she dropped this season this early I think shes done.
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I do actually find it very annoying that many skaters do not officially retire from competition. So you never know whether it's for good or just a temporary break. I know they have monetary reasons and also in some cases they might actually really be open to a return if circumstances are right, but for me as a fan it would be much easier, emotionally, if I knew what the situation was and I could "grieve" and get some "closure". Yeah, they are still doing shows, but that's not nearly the same.
So... do I now grieve, or do I keep my hopes up?
So... do I now grieve, or do I keep my hopes up?
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I think one of the reasons for this is that it's very hard to quit something you've been doing from an early age.I do actually find it very annoying that many skaters do not officially retire from competition. So you never know whether it's for good or just a temporary break. I know they have monetary reasons and also in some cases they might actually really be open to a return if circumstances are right, but for me as a fan it would be much easier, emotionally, if I knew what the situation was and I could "grieve" and get some "closure". Yeah, they are still doing shows, but that's not nearly the same.
So... do I now grieve, or do I keep my hopes up?
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Thats true. I guess their whole identity is being a figure skater and competitor. Medvedeva started taking college courses on journalism or something after retirement, Zagitova became an MC, etc...
Its all a strive for identity, thats why so many people who hit such high peaks end up getting depressed and having problems etc, because they lose their identity eventually. Its easy for them to put it off, to keep the identity but not be forced to participate given they clearly lost the passion. But if they officially make the life decision to move on, then their identity is in big question which is a problem.
It doesnt just happen with pro athletes but regular people as well. When people hit their 20s and have to get a job and drop their sports dreams, they dont know who they are any more. Their whole lives in school they were known as that one guy whos really good at sports, then all of a sudden they dont even play sports; who even are they know?
I think that has more to do with it than the sponsorship explanation or whatever.
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