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Although all of Deanna/ Max's programs are listed on Wiki as choreographed by Julie Marcotte, I am confused because I know that Deanna/ Max worked at Oakton Edge Academy in Illinois, with Timothy LeDuc on at least one of their programs for last season. Was it more about working on fitness and ideas with LeDuc that they took back to Julie Marcotte? 🤔

Deanna/ Max are back in Illinois this summer to work with LeDuc and the Knierims, as per Deanna's IG.

Deanna has family in Illinois that she visits in June. It seems to be downtime for her, but she also brings Max and her coach with her to do a little skating. They train full-time in Canada with Marcotte as choreographer, with whom they’ve had great success. I’ve never heard LeDuc mentioned as choreographer; it seems to be more of a few-day visit among former competitors/friends (Illinois is crowded; ice time for a pair team is limited, so having friends there can help). Alexa, as we know, was one of Deanna’s recent head-to-head competitors for major medals; it would frankly be weird for them to work together unless Alexa is so vehemently against any sort of comeback chance in the future, which K/F haven’t indicated they are (she also has very limited coaching experience). As I said, Deanna brought her own coach with her. Of course choreographers can change from one season to the next, so you never know, but S/D have seemed happy with Marcotte.

Miura/Kihara’s programs have received plenty of criticism, but we should also remember how injured Ryuichi was last year and what a race it was for them just to compete at all in the second half of the season. It may have been more about merely surviving through the programs and being able to get through the elements, rather than worrying about choreography.

Choreographers get the bulk of the criticism, but skaters will often change up their choreo just to be able to do their programs. Everyone can do choreo or an element in isolation on Instagram, but it’s being able to put it all together in the heat of a major competition that is an entirely different story.
 
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I’ve never heard LeDuc mentioned as choreographer
Last summer, Deanna posted about working with Timothy LeDuc on choreo. But that was probably when they were sorting out ideas, and apparently the work did not come to fruition. But that often happens. For e.g., Flores/ Desyatov were first working on a 60s-themed RD that their coach was choreographing. But then, Kaitlyn Weaver ended up choreographing not only their FD, but also their RD to what is probably a 50s theme. They scrapped the other RD, apparently. Not that anything has been officially mentioned yet. I just follow Isabella's IG.
 
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Miura/Kihara’s programs have received plenty of criticism, but we should also remember how injured Ryuichi was last year and what a race it was for them just to compete at all in the second half of the season.
M/K's Olympic season programs were held over from their previous season, and that worked for them. The programs were not bad, but not hugely memorable either. Plus, skaters tend to be criticized for not getting new programs, unless there are reasons to keep them, i.e., not competed for a full season; complex and worthy of further exploration; or simply great programs beloved by fans. In M/K's case, it was apparently out of convenience to be able to focus on honing elements for the Olympic season without having to learn two new programs. Living in Japan and training in Canada might have also been partly a factor, along with possible injuries, and maybe residual issues leftover from COVID seasons.

On the other hand, the actual quality of choreographed programs and choice of music truly are separate from injury complications. I can understand not choosing to create new programs due to injury, but the quality of programs is either wonderful and satisfying or is not exactly great on all cylinders. In the regard of great choices, M/K and JMarcotte do not receive a high rating from me. Let's see if M/K will be able to up their program quality game with their new choreographers.
 
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Choreographers get the bulk of the criticism, but skaters will often change up their choreo just to be able to do their programs. Everyone can do choreo or an element in isolation on Instagram, but it’s being able to put it all together in the heat of a major competition that is an entirely different story.
For sure, this is true about skaters and coaches often having to change programs. In some instances, choreographers may be consulted when changes are necessitated, but probably not always, depending upon schedules. In any case, I think we can tell from first showings whether the music choices/ program choreo were all that special or not to begin with.
 
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It may have been more about merely surviving through the programs and being able to get through the elements, rather than worrying about choreography.
Umm 😳, this can obviously be true for all skaters, whether or not they are dealing with nagging injury-related issues. Most skaters, including Kihara, never tend to make excuses regarding injuries, no matter how badly such injuries impact their competitive results. Spencer Howe may receive some sympathies for his shoulder problems, surgery and rehab which deep-sixed their season. But there will not be any asterisk attached to his and Emily's 2024 Worlds result. Chan/ Howe's stature has been impacted and they will have to prove themselves once again. Another example: It is only now in the off-season that we are hearing about Michael Parsons having dealt with knee problems during the past season. Nary a peep out of him during the season.

This is figure skating. There are no crybabies in figure skating, or at least none who consistently make it to the top. This sport takes no prisoners.
 
Alexa, as we know, was one of Deanna’s recent head-to-head competitors for major medals; it would frankly be weird for them to work together
Huh?! FYI: U.S. pairs teams, especially the immediate previous and current generations are known to be extremely supportive and friendly with each other. This must be something that you are not aware of if you think that it's 'weird' for Alexa and Deanna to work together. 🙄 You need to check out both of their Instagram posts about, yes, working together and being supportive of each other's goals (neither said anything about coaching, which does not mean Alexa did not share training tips and ideas). Alexa and Jessica Calalang were direct rivals, too, and they have also always been the closest of friends and supporters.

I see many, many skaters, some who are direct rivals being supportive of each other on IG, and even at competitions. Many skaters are colleagues and comrades, and some are best friends, despite competing head-to-head. They all share an experience which clearly we would have to be in the thick of to truly understand.

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I seriously doubt that Alexa or Brandon have any desire to return to the competitive arena. They seem to be fulfilled and very proud of their career accomplishments, both together and with their former partners.
 
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Since the pair of Cayla Smith and Andy Deng was the reason I started following pairs, I'm wondering if anyone has intel on what Cayla, Andy, Jared McPike, and Adele Zheng are each doing this season.
 
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Since the pair of Cayla Smith and Andy Deng was the reason I started following pairs, I'm wondering if anyone has intel on what Cayla, Andy, Jared McPike, and Adele Zheng are doing this season.
Cayla is doing tryouts, but not heard if she found a new partner yet
Andy seems to be focusing on college (don't see him in Oakton's pics)
Jared McPike showed up with Baylen Taich at the pairs camp in Colorado but not sure if their partnership will pan out
Adele is off to college

Too much movement in these junior teams!
 
Not sure how I missed this, but I think this must be a clip from the intro to Spencer and Emily's free this year.

I love the drama of the opening poses. The combo ain't bad either.

 
Not sure how I missed this, but I think this must be a clip from the intro to Spencer and Emily's free this year.

I love the drama of the opening poses. The combo ain't bad either.

I like this. If Spencer and Emily are bringing the drama, I'm all for it!
 
Thanks @ramurphy2005, I was just coming here to post the same article on Audrey and Balázs! 👍😊

I also posted it in Pairs Worldwide thread since fans do not always remember to check Skate Nations section.
 
Does anyone know whether Paula Irwin Pauline Irman and Ben Jablonski Jalovick are still partnered in pairs for Switzerland?
 
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If you mean Pauline Irman and Ben Jalovick, I don't know but would like to find out. I always liked Ben when he skated in Men's singles for US and was happy that he was giving pairs a try.
Thank you! I figured I had their last names spelled wrong. 🫣

They had been training at WASA in Colorado, but I haven't seen them recently in any group pics at the rink. :(

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I checked Ben's IG account and discovered that Ben & Pauline won the Swiss National pairs championship in December 2023. Yay and Congrats to them! Maybe they are fulfilled by achieving that Swiss pairs goal, and do not plan to continue due to the huge expense involved in training and competing. I do not see Pauline's IG anymore, though she used to have one. Ben has posted some pictures from their programs at Swiss Nationals. In March, Ben also posted a video of him and Pauline executing a death spiral on hockey skates! 👀

 
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I am glad to see Shin/ Nagy being written about. I am very hopeful for their partnership. The Q&A is interesting and fairly revealing, but the questions and the awkward way the questions are posed is rather mind-numbing. 😳

I gotta give Balázs lots of credit for the diplomatic way he responded, especially to the overly prying and ill-posed questions about Chelsea. It is great that Chelsea is mentioned and not ignored, but obviously Balázs can't speak for her. I'm glad he doesn't try to either. Props to and huge respect for Balázs and the chill way he navigates this sport.

I'd love to see a @clairecloutier interview with Shin/ Nagy. Claire has recently written two well-crafted interviews with Flores/ Desyatov, and with Efimova/ Mitrofanov.
 
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