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The Level Calls

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This came up in one of the int'l B comps about Caroline Zhang.
Correct me please:

The Level calls are each based on a written description. yes?

The Tech Panel makes the calls which has no influence on the judges. but does have effect in the scoring. yes?

Are many of the various levels a matter of opinion and can be subjective?
 
Are many of the various levels a matter of opinion and can be subjective?

Of course. I think you have three subjective opinions for stuff like footwork and spins.

  1. The rules themselves. In the end there is no objectivity. The people who wrote the rules for the levels had something in mind that pleased them. I guess that for the ladies they were mainly thinking of a Sasha-Cohen/Michelle-Kwan/Irina-Slutskaya clone. I think that's why the spiral sequence is mandatory, that's why these extremely flexible positions are en-vogue... For the men they were thinking of the two dominating men of that time, Yagudin and Plushenko. I guess that's why the footwork is so arm-flaily and wild (do it well and extremely wild and you get level 4).
  2. Then the tech-controller. Of course he has some sort of list - but the list is in the end just theoretical. Even a video example couldn't help that. So the tech-controller thinks of the list and because of that list he has certain expectations of (hopefully) different ways the requirements could be satisfied. These expectations can be either fulfilled by the skater - or not. But it's impossible for the tech-controller to think of all the possible ways the requirements could be fulfilled.
  3. The judge. Well, the judge gives the absolutely subjective GOE (though they even try to make that more impartial now).
 
The Level calls are each based on a written description. yes?
Written, yes. Matter of opinion? Well, here is the complete list for levels for step sequences.

1. Does your step sequence have no variety to speak of (level 1), "simple variety" (counts twoward level 2), "variety" (counts toward level 3) or "complexity" (counts toward level 4)?

2. Rotation in both directions, with at least 1/3 of the sequence in each direction.

3. Moderate (for levels 2 and 3) to full (level 4) use of upper body movement. (This is the one that is currently the most abused, with flailing arms and bobbing up and down seeming to count for "upper body movement").

4. Immediate changes of direction by rockers, counters, etc.

The rule is, if you do two of these four things you get a level 2, three for a level 3, and all four for a level 4 -- although #1 and #3 are not an either-or like 2 and 4.

So the tech caller has to decide whether your use of the upper body is "full" or only "moderate," whether your routine has "simple" variety or a little bit more, etc.
The Tech Panel makes the calls which has no influence on the judges. but does have effect in the scoring. yes?
Right about the tech panel, but it is hard to tell what does or does not influence the judges. They might be more likely to give out higher PCSs, for instance, if the skater is awarded a lot of level fours by the tech panel.

The scoring is like this (the same for all three kinds of step sequences, circular, serpentine and straight line.)

Level 1 base value = 1.8
Level 2 base value = 2.3
Level 3 base value = 3.3
Level 4 base value = 3.9

GOEs go like this -1.0, -0.6, -0.3, 0, 0.5, 1.0, 1. In principle, GOEs are supposed to be independent of levels.
Medusa said:
I guess that for the ladies they were mainly thinking of a Sasha-Cohen/Michelle-Kwan/Irina-Slutskaya clone. I think that's why the spiral sequence is mandatory, that's why these extremely flexible positions are en-vogue... For the men they were thinking of the two dominating men of that time, Yagudin and Plushenko...
That's a great insight. I think you hit the nail on the head. The folks who write the ISU rules know what they want. They want Alexei Yagudin's step sequence in Winter. So they write the rules accordingly.
 
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The rules for what constitutes a level-raising feature are actually very specific. Even though the published rule itself may not answer every question about its interpretation, clarifications are issued at the start of the season to answer any questions about gray areas in how features are called. A good example is the interpretation of a "variation of position that affects the core and balance". By the time the Grand Prix season gets underway, technical specialists are surprisingly consistent on which variations--and what degree of variation (like a twist position on a spin) get credit as level-raising features. They also have coaches' conference calls where elite coaches can get their questions answered by the top technical specialists (who also train the other technical specialists).

Continuing with the step sequence example, "full" and "moderate" use of upper body are each specifically defined, as are "variety" and "complexity" of steps. It is not a matter of opinion on the part of the technical specialists. The only gray area is on the degree of depth of edge required for the TS to give credit to the various types of turns in the step sequence and the degree of arm, head and torso movement required to fulfill the definitions and clarifications that have been provided. (Incidentally, Yagudin's step sequences would be called as level 1 or maybe level 2 under the current rules).

Also, technical specialists do not have to announce the level of the spin, jump or spiral sequence to the judges, only what type of spin it was (i.e., a CCoSp, a FC, etc.). But even if the level is announced, it has no relation to the execution. A skater can achieve a level 4 on a spin by fulfilling the requirements of revolutions, difficult variations of position, etc., but if the spin is slow and it travels, it will be a level 4 with -GOE from the judges.

The following document is pretty much the Bible for technical specialists and should give you a good idea of how levels are determined:
http://www.usfigureskating.org/content/First Aid Singles 2008-09.pdf
 
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The rules have pretty much been written for skaters since figure skating began and are not based on any one particular skater. Each skater achieves a higher level through hard work and mental discipline. The judges use the rules to more or less "grade" the skater and award marks accordingly.

Of course figure skating is also somewhat subjective when it comes to judging as well, however the skaters must adhere to the rules to gain the best results.
 
Written, yes. Matter of opinion? Well, here is the complete list for levels for step sequences.

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The rule is, if you do two of these four things you get a level 2, three for a level 3, and all four for a level 4 -- although #1 and #3 are not an either-or like 2 and 4.

1. Does your step sequence have no variety to speak of (level 1), "simple variety" (counts twoward level 2), "variety" (counts toward level 3) or "complexity" (counts toward level 4)?

#1 is pretty much either-or. There are specific clarifications for what consitutes "simple variety" (at least 6 turns and 4 steps, none of the types can be counted more than twice); "variety" (at least 8 turns and 4 steps, none of the types can be counted more than twice); and "complexity (at least 5 different types of turns and at least 3 different types of steps all executed at least once in both directions).

http://www.usfigureskating.org/content/Singles Difficulty Levels.pdf

The definitions have changed a bit from year to year, but within any given season it's pretty much an either-or question whether a step sequence fulfills one of those definitions or not.

Types of "turns" are currently defined as three turns, twizzles, brackets, loops, counters, rockers, which pretty much covers all possible turns on one foot
Types of "steps" listed are toe steps, chasses, mohawks, choctaws, change of edge, cross rolls -- other steps are possible, but if they're not listed in the documentation there might be some subjectiveness involved in whether to count them.

Because fewer "steps" are required and there are more possibilities available, if a step sequence fails to qualify for this feature it's a lot more likely to be for not enough types of turns than not enough types of steps.


It is hard to identify and count all the turns and steps in real time. I understand that often (usually?) one member of the tech panel is assigned to do just that and another member keeps track of the other features.

Occasionally they might count wrong or identify a turn wrong, but that would be a mistake, not an application of subjective opinion. They might identify a turn or step incorrectly. The skater may perform a turn or step in such a way that it's ambiguous what edge s/he was on and therefore what the turn should be called. In those cases the panel would review the sequence on video replay except in very low-tech events where it isn't available.

As long as the edges are executed cleanly as intended, it's just a matter of identifying and counting, which is about as objective as you can get.

3. Moderate (for levels 2 and 3) to full (level 4) use of upper body movement. (This is the one that is currently the most abused, with flailing arms and bobbing up and down seeming to count for "upper body movement").

The difference between "modest" and "full" upper body movement has an either-or definition -- modest requires visible use of two out of three of arms, head, and torso; full requires all three.

http://www.usfigureskating.org/content/First Aid Singles 2008-09.pdf

There might be some borderline cases where one or two of those body parts are used so slightly that it's debatable whether they were used enough to count toward the feature or not. That's where some subjective judgment of the tech panel would come in. The reason why skaters make such big movements of their arms and torso is to make sure that that there's no question they used them.

4. Immediate changes of direction by rockers, counters, etc.

There probably could be some room for subjective interpretation as to whether a change of direction was "immediate" or not -- e.g., is 1 second between turns quick enough, or does it need to be 1/2 a second?

Right about the tech panel, but it is hard to tell what does or does not influence the judges. They might be more likely to give out higher PCSs, for instance, if the skater is awarded a lot of level fours by the tech panel.

The judges don't know what levels were awarded by the tech panel when they're giving marks. Back in the first year of the new system they did get that information, but because it was found to influence them the process would changed so that they wouldn't.

The folks who write the ISU rules know what they want. They want Alexei Yagudin's step sequence in Winter. So they write the rules accordingly.

If that's what they were trying to achieve, they failed dismally in the attempt to write the rules accordingly.

Under the current rules, both of Yagudin's step sequences in Winter would be level 1, because they don't meet the definition for even simple variety, and that first feature is now mandatory for any higher level step sequence. Even if the skater does features 2, 3, and 4 well beyond the minimum required to earn those features, it will still be level 1 without the necessary variety of steps and turns.

That wasn't true when the level rules were first written. It's possible that the Winter step sequences would qualify for level 2 or 3 under the 2004 rules (there were only 3 levels at that time). But even then the original version of the steps and turns feature was listed first and seemed to be the most important.

If we believe that the folks who write the ISU rules know what they want, then based on the rules they wrote I'd have to guess that the most important thing they want in step sequences is brackets, rockers, and counters.
 
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#1 is pretty much either-or.
By my remark I meant that as the rules are written it seems like items 2 and 4 are "either you do this (turn the wrong way 1/3 of the time, for instance), or else you don't. If you do, you get one point toward the level. If you don't you don't.

But 1 and 3, you are expected to do either "level 1 worth" or "level two worth," or 3 or 4. As I understood it, in order to get 1 point toward a level 3, you have to do #2 at the "level three" criteria. Is this right?

The difference between "modest" and "full" upper body movement has an either-or definition -- modest requires visible use of two out of three of arms, head, and torso; full requires all three.
When I said that I thought this requirement was "abused," I didn't mean that it was vague or inappropriately applied by the tech callers. I meant that skaters trying to score this level do comical and ugly stuff that detracts from the program.
If that's what they were trying to achieve, they failed dismally in the attempt to write the rules accordingly.

Under the current rules, both of Yagudin's step sequences in Winter would be level 1, because they don't meet the definition for even simple variety, and that first feature is now mandatory for any higher level step sequence.
vlaurend said:
(Incidentally, Yagudin's step sequences would be called as level 1 or maybe level 2 under the current rules).
I am surprised and sorry to learn this.

Good skating is what good skaters do. Great skating is what great skaters do. Yagudin was a great skater. This is what he did.

Now come new rules that say, no, good skating is not good skating after all. Good skating is bobbing your head up and down 8 times instead of only 4.

As for Winter, it's worth 1.8 points.

I would say rather that it is priceless.
 
By my remark I meant that as the rules are written it seems like items 2 and 4 are "either you do this (turn the wrong way 1/3 of the time, for instance), or else you don't. If you do, you get one point toward the level. If you don't you don't.

But 1 and 3, you are expected to do either "level 1 worth" or "level two worth," or 3 or 4. As I understood it, in order to get 1 point toward a level 3, you have to do #2 at the "level three" criteria. Is this right?

Ah.

Yes, that's true. But the differences between "level 1 worth" and "level 2 worth" are not subjective opinions of the technical panel. Since the topic of this thread is subjectivity, you seemed to be implying that to be the case.

Now I understand that you meant there are 3 or 4 possibilities in the objective answers for those features rather than a binary yes or no.

When I said that I thought this requirement was "abused," I didn't mean that it was vague or inappropriately applied by the tech callers. I meant that skaters trying to score this level do comical and ugly stuff that detracts from the program.

Let's ignore the "abused" sentence in your original post. What I was really responding to was the implication that feature #3 was subjective based on callers' opinions of whether the upper body movement was full, modest, or nonexistent and pointing out that it's no more subjective than feature #4.

Good skating is what good skaters do. Great skating is what great skaters do. Yagudin was a great skater. This is what he did.

Now come new rules that say, no, good skating is not good skating after all. Good skating is bobbing your head up and down 8 times instead of only 4.

Levels are not measures of quality (degrees of "goodness"); they're measures of difficulty.

The above statement makes as much sense as saying "Good skating is rotating 3 times in the air instead of only 2."

The base mark for a level 4 step sequence is higher than the base mark for a sequence of a level 2 sequence because it's more difficult.

The base mark of a triple jump is higher than the base mark for double jump because it's more difficult.

Now, if the more difficult element was performed poorly and the easier element was performed well -- representing "good skating" -- the level 2 sequence or the double jump might end up being worth more after all.

In the new system those differences in quality are represented in the GOEs for each individual element (and I can't believe that the GOEs for the Winter step sequences wouldn't have averaged +2 or better) and quality of the program as a whole are reflected in the PCS.

In the old system, quality of elements would have been reflected in the first mark, along with, in some cases, quality of basic skating; most aspects of the quality of the program as a whole were reflected in the second mark.

I've argued all along that if the intention is to encourage and reward high-quality elements, the increments for GOE points need to be larger than the increments for levels. This is only inconsistently true.

Also judges have to be more willing to reward good quality with positive GOEs, and not just +1s. There is currently a movement to do so. We will see whether that encourages any skaters to put out top-notch simpler elements rather than risking negative GOEs for higher levels.
 
Written, yes. Matter of opinion? Well, here is the complete list for levels for step sequences.

1. Does your step sequence have no variety to speak of (level 1), "simple variety" (counts twoward level 2), "variety" (counts toward level 3) or "complexity" (counts toward level 4)?

2. Rotation in both directions, with at least 1/3 of the sequence in each direction.

3. Moderate (for levels 2 and 3) to full (level 4) use of upper body movement. (This is the one that is currently the most abused, with flailing arms and bobbing up and down seeming to count for "upper body movement").

4. Immediate changes of direction by rockers, counters, etc.

The rule is, if you do two of these four things you get a level 2, three for a level 3, and all four for a level 4 -- although #1 and #3 are not an either-or like 2 and 4.

So the tech caller has to decide whether your use of the upper body is "full" or only "moderate," whether your routine has "simple" variety or a little bit more, etc.Right about the tech panel, but it is hard to tell what does or does not influence the judges. They might be more likely to give out higher PCSs, for instance, if the skater is awarded a lot of level fours by the tech panel.
So the Tech Caller is an expert on a) Variety; b) viewing your rotation of steps on the ice; c) Moderate your body movements but not the beauty of them, d) viewing the changes in your basics while going from one end to the other or in circles.

My first impression of this, is that the Caller's own schooling in being an expert was from the directions given him by the ISU. No mention of how the ISU became an expert themselves, is there?. I don't think it takes much to see variety. I'm sure everyone in the live audience can see that. And it's not difficult to see if a skater is turning left then right, but I presume the Caller's interlect would say it should have been right then left. The 'show your fanny' while picking up imaginary flowers and then move the upper limbs to show your defiance of life must really get to the Callers.

Honestly, can not the judges do this for themselves? Why rely on the subjectivity of one man? At least the consensus of 7 men might reach a half way decent conclusion.

The scoring is like this (the same for all three kinds of step sequences, circular, serpentine and straight line.)

Level 1 base value = 1.8
Level 2 base value = 2.3
Level 3 base value = 3.3
Level 4 base value = 3.9

GOEs go like this -1.0, -0.6, -0.3, 0, 0.5, 1.0, 1. In principle, GOEs are supposed to be independent of levels.That's a great insight. I think you hit the nail on the head. The folks who write the ISU rules know what they want. They want Alexei Yagudin's step sequence in Winter. So they write the rules accordingly.
So anything that doesn't come up to an ISU decided standard is considered less than deserving a higher level. I suppose by using one skater as an example, it's enough to really delve into this topic rather than having a group of former skaters deciding what the levels should be.
 
It's not just the controller, it's also the tech specialist and assistant tech specialist who must agree on the calls, so it's a panel of three. Typically each of them picks a feature in footwork to watch/review.
 
As far as I can tell from the way the step sequence level rules have been written and the ways they've been revised over the past five years, it seems that the most important thing the ISU rulemakers are trying to encourage in step sequences is variety of one-foot turns:
threes
brackets
rockers
counters
twizzles
loops

These are an aspect of fundamental skating technique that had been increasingly neglected as school figures were discontinued and triple jumps became more and more important. So I can understand why the rulemakers would want to encourage today's skaters to demonstrate that they have the skills to do more than just threes.

I guarantee you that the average audience member can't even recognize the differences between most of these kinds of turns.

If they do know the difference, they probably can't distinguish them all reliably in real time.

I know that if I'm watching a program on video and see that a step sequence seemed to have several different kinds of turns, I would need to rewind and watch the sequence at least one or two more times to verify the turns.
 
Challenge:

"Variety of steps" is a lot easier for the skaters to achieve and a lot easier for audiences to see.

So let's just focus on the one-foot turns.

Here are some short programs from early in the post-figures era, so the skaters would all have been trained in school figures while they were coming up. Which of the step sequences here, if any, included three or four different types of one-foot turns?

Ignore the steps, ignore the upper body movement, ignore the rest of the program. Just count the variety of turns. How many different kinds do you see?

Ralph Burghardt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isQow8ZvPqg&feature=related

Konstantin Kostin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2uRlOwYPXA&feature=related

Cameron Medhurst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7-KgSoSWzg&feature=related

Nicolas Petorin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDXEMRHBuks&feature=related

Henrik Walentin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnmIRdJkqKk

Zhang Shubin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZtW8V0dYvc&feature=related
 
As far as I can tell from the way the step sequence level rules have been written and the ways they've been revised over the past five years, it seems that the most important thing the ISU rulemakers are trying to encourage in step sequences is variety of one-foot turns...

These are an aspect of fundamental skating technique that had been increasingly neglected as school figures were discontinued and triple jumps became more and more important. So I can understand why the rulemakers would want to encourage today's skaters to demonstrate that they have the skills to do more than just threes.
That makes a lot of sense, and if that is really what the ISU is after, I applaud. :clap:

What I don't applaud is a scoring system that gives you points for doing something dificult just because it is difficult and for no other reason. If I tie a skate to the top of my head and skate upside down, that's difficult. But I would hope that I would not recieve any points for doing it (except maybe the one-time 2 point bonus for unique and original element. :) ) In fact, I would hope that the judges would tell me, thank you very much but don't do that any more.

If the point of having different levels is to test skaters' skill at doing loops, twizzles, counters, rockers, brackets and 3-turns, then I withdraw my complaint. I don't see, however, how waving your arms about and bobbing your torso up and down while you are demonstrating these skills is a level factor.
 
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Challenge:
OK, I just watched them all, paying attention to the turns in the step sequences.

First, though -- what a great competition. That was wonderful. And these were the second tier guys. Favorite performance: Konstantine Kostin. Compared to performances now, it seemed to me that all of the guys were doing interesting stuff with their feet throughout the program, not just on the step sequences.

Now for my score on this quiz.

Number of turns that I could identify by name: One. Henrik Walentin did a twizzle.

Otherwise, the only thing I could tell for sure is that they weren''t doing the same thing over and over. Nicolas Petorin seemed to me to have the least variety of turns, but he made up for it by doing some other cool stuff, like the hula hoop hip swivel (1.6 base value, GOE +1 :) )
 
These two documents have most of the information that you are asking about.


http://www.usfigureskating.org/content/Singles Difficulty Levels.pdf

http://www.usfigureskating.org/content/First Aid Singles 2008-09.pdf

These along with all the current rule clarifications are what are used by the technical panel.

The Tech panel usually meets prior to an event and will 'divide up' some of the chores for that event, for instance between the three people, one might watch upper body, one rotation and then usually the specialist will watch for the variety and complexity of the turns on step sequences. Spiral sequences may also be divided up.

Spins sometimes are also divided, watching for the 8 rotations, three basic positions, etc.

When computer system is used, the judges do not see the level calls, only the type of element called ( Ccosp, Slst, etc).

For most calls, it is a two out of three scenario that carries the call.

Some things require all three to agree.

Is it perfect, no, but every tech panel member I have worked with , works very hard to stay current and to be fair. ( This is in the US, as I have no experience outside of the US)
 
So the Tech Caller is an expert on a) Variety; b) viewing your rotation of steps on the ice; c) Moderate your body movements but not the beauty of them, d) viewing the changes in your basics while going from one end to the other or in circles.

My first impression of this, is that the Caller's own schooling in being an expert was from the directions given him by the ISU. No mention of how the ISU became an expert themselves, is there?. I don't think it takes much to see variety. I'm sure everyone in the live audience can see that. And it's not difficult to see if a skater is turning left then right, but I presume the Caller's interlect would say it should have been right then left. The 'show your fanny' while picking up imaginary flowers and then move the upper limbs to show your defiance of life must really get to the Callers.

Honestly, can not the judges do this for themselves? Why rely on the subjectivity of one man? At least the consensus of 7 men might reach a half way decent conclusion.

It's easy to see variety? Can YOU tell the difference between a counter and a rocker? How about a rocker and a 3-turn? How about a counter and a bracket? I have learned how to do all of these turns myself and still have a hard time calling them in real time when someone does them in a step sequence. But I can tell you there is a huge difference in difficulty between a 3-turn and a counter, and that needs to be rewarded.

By the way, it is *incredibly* difficult to execute these difficult turns while doing anything at all with your head, torso, or even arms! I can do brackets just fine, but I would fall flat on my face if I tried to do them while moving my upper body enough to get credit for even "moderate" upper body movement!

Good skating is what good skaters do. Great skating is what great skaters do. Yagudin was a great skater. This is what he did.

Now come new rules that say, no, good skating is not good skating after all. Good skating is bobbing your head up and down 8 times instead of only 4.

As for Winter, it's worth 1.8 points.

I would say rather that it is priceless.

But that's exactly why the technical base mark is worth less than half the score. Not only do the judges add or subtract GOE from that base mark, but they also reflect the quality of the performance in the PCS mark. Even though the technical difficulty of Yagudin's footwork would not be considered that high, his presentation, execution, interpretation and choreography were wonderful. That would give him a high PCS mark as well as +GOE on his step sequence. All other things being equal, that would easily earn him more points than someone who managed to fulfill the technical requirements to get level 3 footwork that was executed poorly and did not enhance the program. And look at the other side of this. Under 6.0, there was no way to ensure that skaters got credit for really difficult step sequences. That's why you didn't see a lot of them (or difficult spirals or spins, for the same reason). So I think there is a good balance now between the credit given for difficulty and the credit given for execution and presentation.
 
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It's easy to see variety? Can YOU tell the difference between a counter and a rocker? How about a rocker and a 3-turn? How about a counter and a bracket? I have learned how to do all of these turns myself and still have a hard time calling them in real time when someone does them in a step sequence. But I can tell you there is a huge difference in difficulty between a 3-turn and a counter, and that needs to be rewarded.
I skated all my pre teens and almost all my teens. I know the differences between the school figure turns. As to difficulty, I can understand this at the juvenile and maybe novice levels, but juniors, and above all SENIORS should not have a problem otherwise how did they get to SENIORS?

By the way, it is *incredibly* difficult to execute these difficult turns while doing anything at all with your head, torso, or even arms! I can do brackets just fine, but I would fall flat on my face if I tried to do them while moving my upper body enough to get credit for even "moderate" upper body movement!
Difficulty only occurs with bad schooling together with bad training. I can understand skaters who took up the Sport in later life would not be as lithe as a preteen, and not about rushing off to dance class where one is taught to move the whole body with the steps. But again we are talking here about SENIORS. It should not be difficult for them. If you are talking about choreography which includes the whole body then, it's possible.



But that's exactly why the technical base mark is worth less than half the score. Not only do the judges add or subtract GOE from that base mark, but they also reflect the quality of the performance in the PCS mark. Even though the technical difficulty of Yagudin's footwork would not be considered that high, his presentation, execution, interpretation and choreography were wonderful. That would give him a high PCS mark as well as +GOE on his step sequence. All other things being equal, that would easily earn him more points than someone who managed to fulfill the technical requirements to get level 3 footwork that was executed poorly and did not enhance the program. And look at the other side of this. Under 6.0, there was no way to ensure that skaters got credit for really difficult step sequences. That's why you didn't see a lot of them (or difficult spirals or spins, for the same reason). So I think there is a good balance now between the credit given for difficulty and the credit given for execution and presentation.
I presume you are talking about the difficulty the judges have in scoring. I believe it, too, but to have one tech caller, decide whether or not to judge a skater's elements to a higher or lower level, is pure subjectivity. Why not let the judges do this on their own. In fact, how necessary are the Levels? I am sure much of it is done by comparison of the skaters, not unlike the 6.0 system.
 
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I presume you are talking about the difficulty the judges have in scoring. I believe it, too, but to have one tech caller, decide whether or not to judge a skater's elements to a higher or lower level, is pure subjectivity. Why not let the judges do this on their own. In fact, how necessary are the Levels? I am sure much of it is done by comparison of the skaters, not unlike the 6.0 system.

Again, Joe, it's the TECH PANEL - there are three people - the Technical Controller, the Technical Specialist, and the Assistant Technical Specialist - who determine levels and it is against the absolute of the meaning of the features, not as a comparison of skaters (this one's footwork looks harder so they get a 2 versus that one got a 1).
 
I skated all my pre teens and almost all my teens. I know the differences between the school figure turns. As to difficulty, I can understand this at the juvenile and maybe novice levels, but juniors, and above all SENIORS should not have a problem otherwise how did they get to SENIORS?

Difficulty only occurs with bad schooling together with bad training. I can understand skaters who took up the Sport in later life would not be as lithe as a preteen, and not about rushing off to dance class where one is taught to move the whole body with the steps. But again we are talking here about SENIORS. It should not be difficult for them. If you are talking about choreography which includes the whole body then, it's possible.

I presume you are talking about the difficulty the judges have in scoring. I believe it, too, but to have one tech caller, decide whether or not to judge a skater's elements to a higher or lower level, is pure subjectivity. Why not let the judges do this on their own. In fact, how necessary are the Levels? I am sure much of it is done by comparison of the skaters, not unlike the 6.0 system.

Since you are clearly displeased with the current state of the sport and none of these explanations seem to satisfy you, perhaps you'd feel better if you actively did something about it? If "Difficulty only occurs with bad schooling together with bad training," why not start coaching?
 
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