2024 JGP Wuxi Men's FS

[TallyT]

Vinceman!

 

[EdgeCall]

bad doesn't get nominated a nomination is a compliment

Ok, I should have written "it isn't that WTF".

 

[TallyT]

Oh lord, I like you kid but your music sounds like a dour and depressing dirge accidentally played at halfspeed to make it even more dour.... this makes most sadboi positively effervescent.

 

[labgoat]

Zorro in Space

Lost in Space (US TV) starred Guy Williams who gained fame playing Zorro in the movies

 

[EdgeCall]

Haven't we promoted Chong to Convinceman last year? I guess we are back to Vinceman.

 

[anonymoose_au]

Bit up and down for Vinceman! Hope he's OK.

I appreciate his commitment to sparkles!

 

[TallyT]

Rubbing his shoulder and still holding it in the KnC.

 

[yuumagical]

It's a bird, it's a plane, it's Vinceman, with a really nice cantilever! Hope he feels better soon!

 

[labgoat]

I just had a panic attack - my mind is so consumed with work things and I have not done hardly any prep for the Senior Grand Prix rewatches and just realized they start next weekend

 

[anonymoose_au]

It's a bird, it's a plane, it's Vinceman, with a really nice cantilever!

Yeah! How do they do it? If I tried that I'd never be able to get back up

Into the lead Vinceman goes! But now the local boy is on the ice!

 

[elektra blue]

I just had a panic attack - my mind is so consumed with work things and I have not done hardly any prep for the Senior Grand Prix rewatches and just realized they start next weekend

take some rest! your health comes first, everything else can wait. let me know if you feel better

 

[DemTuppesSeine]

I just had a panic attack - my mind is so consumed with work things and I have not done hardly any prep for the Senior Grand Prix rewatches and just realized they start next weekend

I made a watching schedule earlier for myself and realised that SkAm won't let me sleep a lot next weekend

 

[labgoat]

take some rest! your health comes first, everything else can wait. let me know if you feel better

I am off a bit more next week.
It will be fine once I get rid of my work induced UTI (this happens when you are in a trauma case and cannot escape)

 

[EdgeCall]

ISU, would you please ban voiceovers?

 

[DemTuppesSeine]

I am off a bit more next week.
It will be fine once I get rid of my work induced UTI (this happens when you are in a trauma case and cannot escape)

 

[elektra blue]

I am off a bit more next week.
It will be fine once I get rid of my work induced UTI (this happens when you are in a trauma case and cannot escape)

 

[lariko]

Good folks, is the break after this group or the next? I slept in horribly and catching up on women

 

[elektra blue]

Good folks, is the break after this group or the next? I slept in horribly and catching up on women

after the next

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

Ted and Mark asking if people would be willing to pay a flat fee that covers all streams but I assume you have to pay to watch anything at all... Ummm, no. They do emphasise this is all theoretical and the ISU are NOT planning it...

Mmmm. If Ted and Mark mentioned the possibility of paying to watch the Junior GP's, I would take that as meaning that it is something that is being considered. And that would be a disaster for these kids getting their hard work seen. (As can already be seen with the European Criterium going down the pay route).

Put it like this, if the Junior GP's introduced the same paying model being used for the Challengers (or even a subscription that covered just the Junior GP Series), that would be the end of me watching the Junior GP's. (I've already stopped watching the Challengers and other events that use the pay-per-day / session model)

I expressed my opinions on paying to watch skating back in March, and how the ISU should approach it if they really did want to go down the paying route. (Although, I would prefer if things stayed free).

It was a very long post because I included a lot of background. But, here is the relevant part (which is still long!):

This season, we have seen the introduction of pay streams for a lot of Challenger events, other Senior B’s, and domestic events. How much you pay for the stream, and how much of the event you get for it, varies according to the event. The prices tend to be between €3 and €8. Sometimes this is for a half-day of action; sometimes it is for a full day. There is no consistency.

Most of the streams tend to be on the SolidSport website. And this is where I have a problem. The argument in support for paying for streams is that the money is a badly needed extra source of income for the organisers. However, what most people watching the streams don’t realise is that SOLIDSPORT TAKES HALF OF ALL THE MONEY THAT IS PAID. And I don’t think that is right. The organisers are losing out on half of what is badly needed extra income.

Consequently, I believe that what the ISU should do is invest in setting up their own in-house streaming platform. Create a service that can replicate all the functionality that we love about YouTube, but can also get around the copyright issues. And where everything is archived forever.

If they got somebody in to build it who really knows what they are doing, the platform could even include a function that a lot of fans want but which is technically not possible on YouTube – multiple audio feeds on the same video. Being able to choose between a selection of audio feeds was something that we had in the old Eurosport Player days. It could have a feed where you get the sound directly from the CD player (which I don’t like but I know some people do); an “Ambient Sound” feed where we get the sound from microphones in the arena (which is what I prefer, as we get to hear the audience reaction); an English commentary feed; and commentary feeds in a selection of other languages.

But, if they are going to go to the expense of building their own platform, they may as well go the whole hog. Have it as a one stop shop that caters for ALL figure skating events. Major Championships; Senior GP’s; Junior GP’s; Challenger events; Senior B’s; National Championships; domestic events. In short: EVERYTHING!

Of course, with a platform like I am imagining, it is not going to be free to use like YouTube. But, I do not think the approach that we saw this season for pay events is the right one. Frankly, if you are watching whole events every week, it gets very expensive. And not everybody can afford paying those prices regularly.

Instead, I think it should go down the subscription route. And have the price set at a more manageable level. e.g. 10 CHF to access for 1 month; or 100 CHF to access for 12 months. (This seems to be the standard pricing model for annual contracts for subscription services – 12 months for the price for 10 individual months. And this would work well for figure skating, because there are practically no events in June and July).

I chose the Swiss Franc for the currency because the ISU is based in Switzerland, and because the value of the Swiss Franc is between the American Dollar and the Euro.

And then on the 1st July every year, the money brought in since 1st July the previous year is totalled up, and divided EQUALLY between the organisers of ALL the events that were broadcast on the platform.

I am proposing this pricing model because, if the events were priced individually, smaller events wouldn’t get anywhere near as many customers, and hence money, as big events like Euros or Worlds. And let’s face it, a club holding a Senior B needs the money far more than the sport’s governing body organising a Major Championship. So, if the money was spread out equally between all the organisers, then these smaller events would get more badly needed income than they would otherwise.

The problem with having a streaming service that you have to pay for is that, although established fans may be willing to pay, casual viewers and potential new fans will not. Having the entire sport behind the paywall is not going to grow the sport. If anything, it will kill it off. That is why the ISU run events like the Senior GP’s and the Major Championships need to be on TV as well as on the streaming platform. To draw in new fans. And then if they like what they see, they can subscribe to the streaming platform.

But, those are just my opinions.

CaroLiza_fan

 

[4everchan]

i am here... i don't know why, but i couldn't sleep well.. maybe i am still excited from the borealis show

Now... while I was climbing out of bed... rinky escaped... i promised i'd keep him with me... but he's gone... so watch out boys