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2024-25 GPF: Women's Thoughts?

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It was not Sakamoto's night, but she doesn't seem to upset about it. Glenn did a fantastic job, nerves or not!

I think Yoshida and Matsuike's free skates are my favorite!

What about you?
 
We're 14 months from the Olympics. Let's hope this isn't the standard we'll see there.

Amber was very fortunate to just get the one q in the short program and receive that high PCS. There should have been a q on the 3A, underrotation and q in the combo, punished for double footed landing on the loop, didn't get dinged a point for her fall. Her short program score should have been somewhere between 59-64 rather than 70.

In the end, these mistakes (well maybe not mistakes I think they know what they're doing ;)) by the officials cost Mone Chiba a deserved gold.
 
We're 14 months from the Olympics. Let's hope this isn't the standard we'll see there.

Amber was very fortunate to just get the one q in the short program and receive that high PCS. There should have been a q on the 3A, underrotation and q in the combo, punished for double footed landing on the loop, didn't get dinged a point for her fall. Her short program score should have been somewhere between 59-64 rather than 70.

In the end, these mistakes (well maybe not mistakes I think they know what they're doing ;)) by the officials cost Mone Chiba a deserved gold.
I didn't even look closely at the tech calls, but I thought Mone who gave my favorite performances was really lowballed on PCS which if properly scored would have more than made up the difference and given her the gold as well.
 
I didn't even look closely at the tech calls, but I thought Mone who gave my favorite performances was really lowballed on PCS which if properly scored would have more than made up the difference and given her the gold as well.
I agree.
I actually thought that Rino Matsuike and Wakaba Higuchi were also underscored in PCS given what I saw from them in their programs.
Granted I'm no expert, but they gave Rino Matsuike - of all people - the lowest skating skills score. That just doesn't seem right.
 
Watching the replays of everyone jumps during the competition, it was interesting that Higuchi is actually the only one that has good form on her takeoff of the pick jumps(solid front toe pick, no more than 1/4 turn prerotation). While up to 180 degrees is allowed before downgrade, using that much is not GOOD form. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like the judges are interested in rewarding her in GOE compared to the others for this.
 
Amber winning the Japanese National is the highlight for me ! You know what with this win ! USFS should already name Amber to the World team. She should get a bye to national and be on the world team just considering that she has win everything this season !!
 
Amber winning the Japanese National is the highlight for me ! You know what with this win ! USFS should already name Amber to the World team. She should get a bye to national and be on the world team just considering that she has win everything this season !!

:drama:
 
... with this win ! USFS should already name Amber to the World team. She should get a bye to national and be on the world team just considering that she has win everything this season !!
I like your enthusiasm. :) But actually the USFSA never gives byes for Nationals (except in the case of injury), for the reason that this would undermine the interest in and importance of their own event, which they would like to promote as vigorously as possible. Buy a ticket! Come see Amber Glenn, Ilia Malinin, Chock and Bates, fresh off their Grand Prix triumphs!

In the olden days, placement at Nationals was essentially the only factor for being making the world team. Even under the current rules, placement at nationals is the highest-weighted of the several facrtors that the Selection Committee takes into account. But the Grand Prix Final is #2. :)

They also take into account, to some extent, the previous years' experience, especially placement at 2023 Worlds. However, "trending" results are given more weight than yeah-but-:what-have-you-done-for-us-lately ones. ;)

Anyway, without getting too far ahead of ourselves, Amber will be a shoo-in for Worlds if she finishes first or second at Nationals, and will probably be selected if she finishes third or even fourth. Isabeau has fallen off the pace this season, but she did get fourth at last year's Worlds, so she, too, will go if she finishes first or second at Nationals. But there will be lots of competition -- Alysa Liu and a bevy of newer aspoirants. I can't wait!
 
I like your enthusiasm. :) But actually the USFSA never gives byes for Nationals (except in the case of injury), for the reason that this would undermine the interest in and importance of their own event, which they would like to promote as vigorously as possible. Buy a ticket! Come see Amber Glenn, Ilia Malinin, Chock and Bates, fresh off their Grand Prix triumphs!

In the olden days, placement at Nationals was essentially the only factor for being making the world team. Even under the current rules, placement at nationals is the highest-weighted of the several facrtors that the Selection Committee takes into account. But the Grand Prix Final is #2. :)

They also take into account, to some extent, the previous years' experience, especially placement at 2023 Worlds. However, "trending" results are given more weight than yeah-but-:what-have-you-done-for-us-lately ones. ;)

Anyway, without getting too far ahead of ourselves, Amber will be a shoo-in for Worlds if she finishes first or second at Nationals, and will probably be selected if she finishes third or even fourth. Isabeau has fallen off the pace this season, but she did get fourth at last year's Worlds, so she, too, will go if she finishes first or second at Nationals. But there will be lots of competition -- Alysa Liu and a bevy of newer aspoirants. I can't wait!
They won't name the teams till after the Nationals anyway, even if they have already decided (I am not saying they have, of course).
 
It’s like I watched a different event. Amber’s triple axel is nice but am I the only person who didn’t think that was a great skate? I thought Kaori’s skate was the most complete package.
 
Anyway, without getting too far ahead of ourselves, Amber will be a shoo-in for Worlds if she finishes first or second at Nationals, and will probably be selected if she finishes third or even fourth. Isabeau has fallen off the pace this season, but she did get fourth at last year's Worlds, so she, too, will go if she finishes first or second at Nationals. But there will be lots of competition -- Alysa Liu and a bevy of newer aspoirants. I can't wait!
She won the Silver Medal at Worlds.
 
I find it almost unfair to compare a program like Amber Glenn's with a program like Mone Chiba's. In the middle part there was nothing going on in the music, she could have done anything on the ice and it would have fitted more or less. Whereas Mone's music was full of changes and nuances and her choreography was very well done to that and highlighted every note.
 
It’s like I watched a different event. Amber’s triple axel is nice but am I the only person who didn’t think that was a great skate?
@ HolySalchow. Great Username! :)

I hink that the reason Amber Glenn is getting so much love this season is because of the trajectory of her career. She struggled anonymously in the trenches for a decade before anyone knew she existed. She went to U.S. senior nationals 6 times, incrementally working her way up the ladder 13th, 8th,8th, 7th, 5th, before winning a medal (silver) at age 21, and then finally gold three years later.

She tried a triple Axel – and tried and tried and tried. She landed her fist triple Axel in international competition in 2023 – on her 14th attempt.

Let’s just say that her career path did not follow the Janet Lynn/Michelle Kwan model of being identified at age 15 as the next ONE and then propelled into the forefront of skating royalty.

This is why I am impatient at posts on the theme, oh, the judges and the ISU are just cheating to inflate Amber’s scores. Please. Nobody gave Amber a how-do-you-do until this season, when she seems finally on the verge of putting it all together, her triple Axel stabilizing, presentation improving, getting control over her nerves. Fpr me, if she manages to medal at Worlds, good for her. If she doesn’t, good for her anyway. :)
 
@ HolySalchow. Great Username! :)

I hink that the reason Amber Glenn is getting so much love this season is because of the trajectory of her career. She struggled anonymously in the trenches for a decade before anyone knew she existed. She went to U.S. senior nationals 6 times, incrementally working her way up the ladder 13th, 8th,8th, 7th, 5th, before winning a medal (silver) at age 21, and then finally gold three years later.

She tried a triple Axel – and tried and tried and tried. She landed her fist triple Axel in international competition in 2023 – on her 14th attempt.

Let’s just say that her career path did not follow the Janet Lynn/Michelle Kwan model of being identified at age 15 as the next ONE and then propelled into the forefront of skating royalty.

This is why I am impatient at posts on the theme, oh, the judges and the ISU are just cheating to inflate Amber’s scores. Please. Nobody gave Amber a how-do-you-do until this season, when she seems finally on the verge of putting it all together, her triple Axel stabilizing, presentation improving, getting control over her nerves. Fpr me, if she manages to medal at Worlds, good for her. If she doesn’t, good for her anyway. :)
She wins the medal for perseverance. :)
 
@ HolySalchow. Great Username! :)

I hink that the reason Amber Glenn is getting so much love this season is because of the trajectory of her career. She struggled anonymously in the trenches for a decade before anyone knew she existed. She went to U.S. senior nationals 6 times, incrementally working her way up the ladder 13th, 8th,8th, 7th, 5th, before winning a medal (silver) at age 21, and then finally gold three years later.

She tried a triple Axel – and tried and tried and tried. She landed her fist triple Axel in international competition in 2023 – on her 14th attempt.

Let’s just say that her career path did not follow the Janet Lynn/Michelle Kwan model of being identified at age 15 as the next ONE and then propelled into the forefront of skating royalty.

This is why I am impatient at posts on the theme, oh, the judges and the ISU are just cheating to inflate Amber’s scores. Please. Nobody gave Amber a how-do-you-do until this season, when she seems finally on the verge of putting it all together, her triple Axel stabilizing, presentation improving, getting control over her nerves. Fpr me, if she manages to medal at Worlds, good for her. If she doesn’t, good for her anyway. :)
Amber is a skater's skater. i am so happy she finally seems to be figuring it out and experiencing the highest success in her career thus far, she proved she has what it takes to win a world medal. she really has been through the trenches and she deserves everything she's achieved this season!
 
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