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2025 European Championships Pairs SP



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Hi Everyone!
I quietly watched the final group of pairs - everyone fought hard. Minerva & Nikita were fantastic.
Pairs rewatch is done, but I cannot stay up for ladies..but will join the fun tomorrow once I get home. Go everyone! Go Laura, Kimmy, Nina, and Niina and Anastasia - lets get my predictions off to a better start than my dismal US Nats.
 
Volodin's face at the end of the program 👹 as if it were a horror show and not a program about angry exes.
 
Minerva & Nikita had a very solid skate! She's a joy to watch in particular. They lost some potential +GOE points for their SBS spin clearly due to them getting out of sync. The triple twist & their throw were fantastic.
Level 3 twist fantastic?
 
Level 3 twist fantastic?
What does the level have to do with how good a twist is? There are only five criteria (woman's split, no upper body contact during catch, woman's above-head arm position, difficult take-off/exit, man's arm position dropping to (below) shoulder level) for achieving levels on twists, and many teams do not even attempt to achieve level fours due to that.

Sui/Han's 4Tw never got a level 4 and still, it was almost always amazing. Liu/Nagy's huge, effortless 3Tw got a level 4 only once, but it was still clearly the class of the field in terms of execution.
 
What does the level have to do with how good a twist is? There are only five criteria (woman's split, no upper body contact during catch, woman's above-head arm position, difficult take-off/exit, man's arm position dropping to (below) shoulder level) for achieving levels on twists, and many teams do not even attempt to achieve level fours due to that.

Sui/Han's 4Tw never got a level 4 and still, it was almost always amazing. Liu/Nagy's huge, effortless 3Tw got a level 4 only once, but it was still clearly the class of the field in terms of execution.
is is difficult for the woman to get the split, is that why there are few level 4 twists?
I don't think there's any woman currently doing it with above-head arm position.
 
is is difficult for the woman to get the split, is that why there are few level 4 twists?
I don't think there's any woman currently doing it with above-head arm position.
Both legs individually have to be straight (or at least as close to straight as possible) and 45° from the woman's body axis, which sounds easy enough, I guess, but most tech panels have been quite strict about it recently.

While there aren't a lot of people (if any) doing above-head arm positions anymore, some quite well-known teams switched to doing it due to never being able to achieve a proper split position (Aljona Savchenko for example) or even going for the 4Tw instead (like Yulia Artemieva/Alexei Briukhanov).
 
Isn't the starting order based on world ranking pts.? M/B then shouldn't be last in the penultimate group. Has anything changed, I didn't recognize?
I'm just watching now and I thought the commentator said it was based on world ranking points.
 
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