2025 European Championships Men's Short Program

[cocteautwin]

That slide is a beauty so much better than backflip

 

[flanker]

I don't want to be Adam's ankle today...

 

[flanker]

BTW forum has some problems today...

 

[brblja]

I’m happy about it but 8 would never had bet Samoilov would’ve been top 3 after the short!

 

[brblja]

And this might be a controversial opinion, but I wish all events at this level had Shin Amano on tech panels. TBH these flutzes and incomplete rotations should get called out more. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Karoltyna]

And I mssed the lat group and then the froum died. Vova bombed my peedictions...

 

[brblja]

And now that I’ve seen the protocols, the biggest surprise is that exactly ONE skater got a fully clean program (no rotation edge/issues, pops or dropped levels) and it was Andreas Nordebäck.

 

[brblja]

And I mssed the lat group and then the froum died. Vova bombed my peedictions...

Mine too, but that a bombing I’m happy about.

 

[Karoltyna]

Mine too, but that a bombing I’m happy about.

I'm happy too. Normally I put him on 5th bc I believe and he bombs so this time I didn't dare to believe

 

[Sabsi]

in Warsaw he got a lot of homemade pirogy...

Yummy

 

[auser]

yeah... the forum keeps asking me if i am a bot... and then let's me in... but cannot post easily... i guess it's understandable... must be seeing a lot of traffic with current disastrous news + euros at the same time Euros

Happy it is working for you. But GS pretty much shut down for me until I logged in without my VPN enabled. Canadians can watch ISU Skating YouTube Euros Champs streams non-geoblocked but many others cannot.

 

[lariko]

Unexpected results, but much more interesting than women's short yesterday. I don't know what will happen in the free.

 

[TontoK]

I'm sorry, and I know this will generate a tempest in a teapot...

But Kevin did not deserve the second highest PCS for this effort. YES he's typically a beautiful skater, but the mistakes DID impact the overall quality of the program. There were several instances of him just slogging around the ice - enough that I feared he might get an interruption deduction - and the energy and spark of the program were lost.

I get that this was not a field of John Curry's out there, but 41+ in PCS for that is ridiculous.

 

[brblja]

Happy it is working for you. But GS pretty much shut down for me until I logged in without my VPN enabled. Canadians can watch ISU Skating YouTube Euros Champs streams non-geoblocked but many others cannot.

Yeah, it looked like the anti-DDoS protections got a bit overeager.

 

[lariko]

I'm sorry, and I know this will generate a tempest in a teapot...

But Kevin did not deserve the second highest PCS for this effort. YES he's typically a beautiful skater, but the mistakes DID impact the overall quality of the program. There were several instances of him just slogging around the ice - enough that I feared he might get an interruption deduction - and the energy and spark of the program were lost.

I get that this was not a field of John Curry's out there, but 41+ in PCS for that is ridiculous.

I was surprised as well, but I assume they wanted to make sure he made the free skate.

 

[brblja]

I'm sorry, and I know this will generate a tempest in a teapot...

But Kevin did not deserve the second highest PCS for this effort. YES he's typically a beautiful skater, but the mistakes DID impact the overall quality of the program. There were several instances of him just slogging around the ice - enough that I feared he might get an interruption deduction - and the energy and spark of the program were lost.

I get that this was not a field of John Curry's out there, but 41+ in PCS for that is ridiculous.

I think this was partially due to judges being too generous on PCS for the skaters before him - judged in a vacuum yeah, this should be lower, but seeing how people with way worse components/performance got mid-30s, the judges pretty much had to go there (tho maybe not quite that high). Second thing is that, once again the three components don’t get differentiated much in the scores, some of todays programs were prime examples where composition/presentation/skating skills should’ve been 2-3 points apart. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But the biggest differences today were in the area of .5 points.

 

[labgoat]

And I mssed the lat group and then the froum died. Vova bombed my peedictions...

Me too - I am just now getting back on.

 

[maofan]

And was your driver's license renovated?
Joking aside, the program deals with sign language.

I think it's more to do with words from Charlie Chaplin's speech in The Great Dictator movie ( best speech ever!)

 

[TontoK]

I was surprised as well, but I assume they wanted to make sure he made the free skate.

I strongly object to this brand of score manipulation. Just as I objected to score manipulation via the tech panel at US Nationals (IMO).

It is not the judges' job to make sure Kevin makes the free skate.

 

[lariko]

I strongly object to this brand of score manipulation. Just as I objected to score manipulation via the tech panel at US Nationals (IMO).

It is not the judges' job to make sure Kevin makes the free skate.

I agree, but well, his free is a better program.