What is your least aesthetic move in figure skating?

[Anna K.]

I think you linked the same video twice.

Corrected that.
Should work now

 

[Anna K.]

So my point of view differs from yours in the sense that I am looking at just the element, not the element within the program

The IJS also does, sadly.

 

[4everchan]

The IJS also does, sadly.

well... that's the whole point isn't it ? The IJS is looking at the elements individually for TES but not necessarily for PCS. The issue is not really the IJS but how judges evaluate PCS.

 

[Mathman]

Corrected that.
Should work now

Those high-kicking chorus line routines always make my legs ache watching them. How do they do it?

 

[Anna K.]

Once the clothing theme is here, I mentioned earlier that body positions similar to besti squat play are typical in traditional acrobatics and dance in different cultures. Shall we look at what they actually wear and how it, combined with the said body position, helps creating the aesthetics of the performance?

Traditional clothing, China:

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[Grieta]

...that leap of the goat child between the changes of poses in the spins...

 

[CopyCat]

Movies that require a lot of flexibility performed by skaters who are obviously not particularly flexible always make me cringe to watch (looking at you, l spins and Biellmanns).

 

[reneerose]

The I spin which I think is about the same or equal to the Bielmann spin?

Also, I don't really like the Tano arms in the air on jumps

 

[Diana Delafield]

Also, I don't really like the Tano arms in the air on jumps

I particularly don't like it when a skater does that on every single jump, as many of the Russian girls did, if I recall correctly. It then looks as if the skater can only jump if she pulls herself into the air by grabbing an overhead rope, or the playground monkey bars.

 

[reneerose]

I particularly don't like it when a skater does that on every single jump, as many of the Russian girls did, if I recall correctly. It then looks as if the skater can only jump if she pulls herself into the air by grabbing an overhead rope, or the playground monkey bars.

Yeah, I don't like the repetition of it. Just once is enough!

 

[Bluediamonds09]

Is it possible for the ISU to immediately get rid of that stupid rule of "difficult exot from a spin" ? Please??? That rule does nothing and it looks so ugly! The only skater I've seen do that awkward hop out of a spin kinda well is a French girl from the junior grand prix final.

Is it possible for the rule to be abolished before Milan 2026?

 

[Blades of Passion]

Alaine is responsible for this....

The first time I saw it, It thought it was cool... so I am not sure where I stand here about it...

Cool ? or ... Ugly???

Miki Ando did that spin first in 2010, with much less speed, en route to the horrendous judging decision of her winning 2011 Worlds.

 

[Tutto]

Thank you for this! I knew I had seen one beautiful one this year but I could remember from which team. Theirs should be the acknowledged standard.

I think Alisa Efimova's forward outside death spiral is very beautiful. She and Misha get level 4 or 3 on them ... and I've never heard a commentator even mention them, oh wait, Johnny Weir did at nationals and spoke about how it's very difficult.

Alternatively, everyone talks about Deanna and Max's FODS, and most of them mention how ugly or unattractive it is ... I concur. Even Chris in his 4CC commentary mentioned the difficulty, but said it's not something he'd rather look at. He apparently didn't see Alisa & Misha's.

ETA: here is Efimova/Mitrofanov's FS from Nationals. It's a wondrous, emotional skate to watch and their best performance of it... the winning FS. The FODS begins at 2:22, although there's a loop going into it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmmAtJf6o0

Actually, Chris & Kirsten admired Alisa & Misha's FO death spiral at Worlds and said that was the only one NOT looking ugly or something to that effect.
I disagree. And I am a big fan of Alisa & Misha skating. I would say that they manage to make it less ugly than others but beautiful? Nooo! ISU please ban it or allocate less points I CANNOT take more, its ugliness just kills all the enjoyment of the otherwise great programs

 

[Mathman]

I particularly don't like it when a skater does that on every single jump, as many of the Russian girls did, if I recall correctly. It then looks as if the skater can only jump if she pulls herself into the air by grabbing an overhead rope, or the playground monkey bars.

That was one of those famous ISU "be careful what you ask for" rules. Once they decided that this arm position ought to count as a GOE feature, that guaranteed that the next year we would be seeing it on every jump.

Brian Boitano had the right idea -- make it a highlight of the performance, make it count!

 

[4everchan]

The worst move in figure skating : corrupt judging

 

[Mathman]

Once the clothing theme is here, I mentioned earlier that body positions similar to besti squat play are typical in traditional acrobatics and dance in different cultures. Shall we look at what they actually wear and how it, combined with the said body position, helps creating the aesthetics of the performance?

Traditional clothing, China:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

Traditional clothing, India:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

For some reason I just now noticed this post. Thank you! Two exhilarating performances, in my opinion. (I have never heard of that particular martial arts discipline featured in the first vid (my loss), and my knowledge of traditional dances of India can fit in a thimble. )

Yes, no one would ever be put off by those tradirtional movements and postures.

 

[Skating91]

The raspberry twist looks like an error to me

 

[eppen]

Spread eagle with bent body. The b*** sticking out just makes me cringe.

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[Marty McFlip]

probably me when I put one foot on the ice

 

[Mathman]

But then, too, all figure skaters, men and ladies, have well developed glutes -- it sort of comes with the territory.