I’m talking about taking money from them while they are under sanctions. Being a kind of employee. As the Russian skaters kind of are when they skate in shows paid for by them and accept money from them.
The one spot available for the Milan Olympics?
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Nah. The winner's name will go into the record books and in due course everyone will forget about the details, if they ever cared in the first place.
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So true. In fact when the ISU announcement first came out the ISU gave the impression that the IOC's about-face had caught them off-guard and that they were left scrambling to rush some sort of procedure into place.
The way isu is acting that’s quite clear! Isu is happy to never include Russians again. Just be America Canada Japan and Korea
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I don't know about that. Russia brings money
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And Russia still buys the isu broadcast rights even without competing! so isu can get the Russian money without even Russians there! Imagine skating is so popular in Russia they still air all the isu programs and give isu money when their skaters aren’t allowed! I bet people believed Russia wouldn’t give the isu money while the Russian skaters were banned. Just the opposite. There is money in hate watching! Kind of “Petrosian is better than that girl!” Watching
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I think this whole thing is a bit of a pickle. Either they decide the Russians have been punished enough and let the entire team in, or keep things as they were. Now it’s extremely awkward on many fronts.
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To be fair, the one who bought the broadcast rights is okko, a Russian streaming company that turned private from previous government-related ownership (I think). They even have a non-commentary version of broadcast which my friends love to use to watch. It is funny how most FS fans didn't notice until Elizaveta popped up at WTT for okko-related work, but yeah, the Russians do have a way to officially watch the GP series and ISU Championships.
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That's the point! Russia could walk out by its own, as we saw in judo and wrestling (if I remember well) at 2024 Paris Olympics. Like "some of our athletes are denied participation? Fine, we don't send anyone."
The pairs gold will have an asterisk against it in my opinion. The people who watch once every four years won't care (nor remember who wins pairs one week after the Olympics), but people who follow the sport will understand the best team in the world did not win gold.
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I look at the question somewhat differently. Winning the Olympic gold medal and being the best skater in the world are two different things. There are a thousand reasons reasons why the best skater might not be the gold medalist -- ranging from the bizarre fluke of a costume malfunction that doomed Papadokis and Cizeron in 2018 to the deadly serious, like when Cecelia Colledge was denied the opportunity to win the OGM in 1940 because of World War II.
If a skater wins the Olympic Gold Medal, that means that this skater scored the highest at this particular event out of all the participants. To say that a skater is the best in the world -- , well, that's not quite so precisely defined, but it means something different. Np need for any asterisks for either.
I will say this, though. Now that Adelia Petrosian appears to be on track for the at -large slot in Milano, I looks like it will be Petrosian versus the field. I wonder how the ISU feels about them apples?
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There will be no asterisk. The pair that gets highest score at the event will be the winners. It won't be relevant if the pair who isn't there may have won if they were there.
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ISU specifically never asked Russians back and never will. My bet is that the remaining 2 athletes won't qualify in China, no matter how they skate. Judging has been increasingly collegial this season, so it wouldn't be noticeable. This way, ISU did what IOC asked, considering neutrals, and respectfully just didn't find them up to their standard of excellence. PCSs, you know... That's if the athletes who didn't do international competitions for years or ever and have too many eyes on their backs don't melt down.
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This is going to be fun / not fun.
Whether you like Russian skaters or hate them, Adelina P has the potential to turn the screws on the ISU. Anything can happen, but if she does half off what she did at Russian Nationals nobody in the qualifying trials will come within light years of her.
Will any other skater bring 3A, 4T+2T, 4T, 3Lo ,3Lz+2A+2A, 3F+3T, 3F and score 100 points in TES? Even if the good old boys of the ISU knock her down from 77 in PCSs, to 67, or even 57 and take away a bunch of GOE, they will not be able to put the genie back in the bottle now that they have let her out.
Being a loyal USA booster, here is what I hope happens in Milano. Petrosian is scheduled to compete. Alysa Liu takes one look, says, "oh beep," and starts training her triple Axel with new-found motivation, Then on the day, she pulls out all the stops and performs like the Devil and all his angels are chasing her!
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This is going to be fun / not fun.
Whether you like Russian skaters or hate them, Adelina P has the potential to turn the screws on the ISU. Anything can happen, but if she does half off what she did at Russian Nationals nobody in the qualifying trials will come within light years of her.
Will any other skater bring and score 100 points in TES? Even if the good old boys of the ISU knock her down from 77 in PCSs, to 67, or even 57 and take away a bunch of GOE, they will not be able to put the genie back in the bottle now that they have let her out.
Being a loyal USA booster, here is what I hope happens in Milano. Petrosian is scheduled to compete. Alysa Liu takes one look, says, "oh beep," and starts training her triple Axel with new-found motivation, Then on the day, she pulls out all the stops and performs like the Devil and all his angels are chasing her!
I have run the numbers many times. Petrosian can do all her quads and triple axels and if her pcs is in 4 or 5’s and she gets no or negative goe she won’t actually be anywhere near the top 5 in Beijing! Isu is obviously never gong to invite Russians back and has no interest in Russians ever ever competing again. The era of Russians in skating is over internationally. It’s just over
Under isu orders
3A<<, 4T<<+2T,<< 4T<<, 3Lo<< ,3Lze<<+2A<<+2A<<, 3Fe<<+3T<<, 3Fe<<
Petrosian score in long program in Beijing will be 57.33 with 25 TES
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To be clear, she took that drug before it was banned.
Didn't she miss her triple axels at Russian nationals?This is going to be fun / not fun.
Whether you like Russian skaters or hate them, Adelina P has the potential to turn the screws on the ISU. Anything can happen, but if she does half off what she did at Russian Nationals nobody in the qualifying trials will come within light years of her.
Will any other skater bring 3A, 4T+2T, 4T, 3Lo ,3Lz+2A+2A, 3F+3T, 3F and score 100 points in TES? Even if the good old boys of the ISU knock her down from 77 in PCSs, to 67, or even 57 and take away a bunch of GOE, they will not be able to put the genie back in the bottle now that they have let her out.
Being a loyal USA booster, here is what I hope happens in Milano. Petrosian is scheduled to compete. Alysa Liu takes one look, says, "oh beep," and starts training her triple Axel with new-found motivation, Then on the day, she pulls out all the stops and performs like the Devil and all his angels are chasing her!
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I was going by this:
Skating Scores: Latest Figure Skating Results, Scores, Rankings & Statistics
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which shows the first element as a triple Axel with positive GOE and worth 10.48 points total. I think she did miss the 3A at the Russian Grand Prix Final, though, so nothing is guaranteed.
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