Yes! But is probably the most or one of the most celebrated pair skating team in all history! So yes skating first in sp did mean Olympic gold but very special circumstances
The one spot available for the Milan Olympics?
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She'll be under a lot of scrutiny which is a lot of pressure to take for anyone... especially someone who hasn't competed at major international events. She's very good and may be able to manage this pressure but it's not a guarantee. The sport being followed so much in Russia, I do laugh at the Independent Neutral Athlete status though... Russians will know who their athletes are and will be celebrated as national heroes when the games are over. I wish the IOC didn't impose anything on the ISU... because once again, the focus on the games, even months ahead is not on the actual skating but on CAS rulings and what not.
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You have to tell me who was it- not G&G?
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What about the adults complicit and Tutberidze? Are they paying the price?
No they get to likely send another skater from their camp as a special accommodation, even having smeared the sport and the Olympics last time.
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While I love your optimism, I think you’re giving the Olympics/judges too much credit here.
They gave 70.62 to Valieva for her hot mess of a FS.
If Petrosian represented Armenia do you think she would get the same scores for the exact same skates, compared to the GOE/PCS as a Russian (ahem, “AIN”
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I think it is quite a different situation I am not even sure what are you talking about.While I love your optimism, I think you’re giving the Olympics/judges too much credit here.
They gave 70.62 to Valieva for her hot mess of a FS.
If Petrosian represented Armenia do you think she would get the same scores for the exact same skates, compared to the GOE/PCS as a Russian (ahem, “AIN”
And remember Mr Lakernik is out, so there will be no helping hand
Valieva was known and proven to the judges
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That wasn't exactly the point I was driving at. Rather what I was hoping was (1) that we could tone down the rhetoric as far as heaping abuse on Kamila Valieva four years later, however errant her offense might have been. And (2) that we should keep some perspective. Eteri Tutbeidze may be the most ghoulish ogre who ever hatched, but her victims are still alive. Unlike the victims of other villains still on the loose.
I hear this argument time and again that she hasn't skated in the ISU so the judges don't know how to assess her, will lowball her until she's "earned their respect" whatever that means. Like some hazing ritual the skaters have to go through.
Plus I don't believe judges live their lives in a vacuum they would have Petrosian's performances pop up on Youtube, they have probably stumbled on a another site board or maybe even a forum, wondered what all this fuss about Petrosian is so clicked the link. These AIN selections have created a lot of buzz and excitement in the skating world.
Some people are talking about Petrosian scoring in the 6's for PCS, but this is absurd. The world champion was receiving 9.50's and even a 9.75 at the WTT. If you compare Petrosian to the world champion, I think even someone with an inherent bias against AIN skaters would grudgingly admit Petrosian is no worse than the world champion at a minimum. Below are their most recent step and choreo sequences side by side to compare.
Plus I don't believe judges live their lives in a vacuum they would have Petrosian's performances pop up on Youtube, they have probably stumbled on a another site board or maybe even a forum, wondered what all this fuss about Petrosian is so clicked the link. These AIN selections have created a lot of buzz and excitement in the skating world.
Some people are talking about Petrosian scoring in the 6's for PCS, but this is absurd. The world champion was receiving 9.50's and even a 9.75 at the WTT. If you compare Petrosian to the world champion, I think even someone with an inherent bias against AIN skaters would grudgingly admit Petrosian is no worse than the world champion at a minimum. Below are their most recent step and choreo sequences side by side to compare.
In other sports they call this kind thing corruption or match fixing.
It is a sport though. The least any athlete at the Olympics should expect is honest and objective officials.
If the ISU cannot get this right then the IOC should remove figure skating from the Olympics.
Yes!
Let’s cancel one of the most popular Olympic sports because Russia can’t get their act together and not invade sovereign nations.
That’s absolutely the logical conclusion.
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In my view the only thing that an ISU judge, or a referee in any sport, owes to the athletes is fair judging at the event that they are assigned to. If Adelina P. competes at the Olympic Games and skates well, give her the marks that she earned. If someone else skates batter, that is a possibility, too.
A judge who bases his scores on tapes of previous performances, or upon who he thinks is the favorite going in -- no, that's simply bad, and in fact dishonest, judging.
Of course, that's in the best of ll possiblere worlds. In the real world it doesn't always work out that way.
A judge who bases his scores on tapes of previous performances, or upon who he thinks is the favorite going in -- no, that's simply bad, and in fact dishonest, judging.
Of course, that's in the best of ll possiblere worlds. In the real world it doesn't always work out that way.
I am for fair judging, so I wouldn't want the judges to mark her down deliberately to keep her from winning. If she is there, she is going to have the highest planned tech content and it will outweigh any mark down in PCS. She will have a lot of pressure on her and will have to deliver (and will have to avoid a growth spurt).
No, both do not go on with their lives. A cheater can destroy an entire sport and the collective psyche. Do you know how many years men's cycling was blown apart because of Lance Armstrong's doping and his bullying of others on the team to do the same? The damage was so deep, so wide, affected so many lives over so many years, to this day people still talk about it, write about it, debate about it, and are affected by it. People didn't just look at cycling with a side eye, they then looked at many sports that way in the wake of it all. And if the carnage wasn't bad enough, he said he'd probably do it again.
For anyone to think cheating in sports is merely one person getting something they don't deserve is wildly myopic.
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The sense in which cyclists have "gone on with their lives" is that they are still alive, and are "going on." Not so for people who are killed in war.
As for Valieva, sorry, but I cannot equate her with Hitler or Ghengis Khan, whatever disappointing choices she might have made four years ago. I wish her well.
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Petrosian’s skating has been all over the internet, and with how much buzz there’s been, it’s hard to believe they haven’t seen at least some of it. While it's true that some skaters build scoring momentum through ISU events, it shouldn't be a requirement to get fair scores. If she's skating at the same level (or better) than top contenders, that should speak for itself.
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