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2025 Kinoshita Group Cup Women's Short Program
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In order to post video as soon as possible and to avoid spoilers I'm going to upload entire Groups instead of individual performances
I'll try to upload and post links to video for all 3 Groups before the Men's SP starts
I'll try to upload and post links to video for all 3 Groups before the Men's SP starts
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Quick and probably worthless two cents: I love my girl Haein but her cover of My Way is literally the worst cover of My Way I've ever heard (the choreo is actually nice, which makes the pain greater), Ahsun's East of Eden is pretty and nice although she needs more mileage (naturally, the program is about a month old), Sakamoto Kaori's Time To Say Goodbye was my favorite program of the bunch, Yamashita Mako's The Lark Ascending is quite lovely and I want to see her skate it clean, Chiba Mone returned to Last Dance which was probably the right choice since I was never into her Sakura Sakura (I had a lot of issues with the cuts and composition), maybe I'm just stressed and tired but I am not liking most new senior programs so far which does not help with my mental health, and thus the cycle continues
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I agree on some of your points but I really enjoyed the evening. Best wishes to all my fav skaters in the Free. Its gonna be one heck of a show.
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All the power to you Chris, contrary to popular opinion I don't actually enjoy being a grouch and I truly wish I could find more enjoyment than pain, I'm glad to hear that you got to enjoy the competition more than I did
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Catching up the last group. Haein's "My Way" version is unbearable, my ears are bleeding, I had to mute it at some point. It's kind of funny she and Waka got almost the same scores for "their ways". I prefer Waka's program way more (although I don't love this music at all), she's clearly not competition ready yet, needs more runthroughs.
Bradie's program seems boring just like the music plus some unnecessairy Benoit's pretenstious movements.
I love Sonja's creativity.
Bradie's program seems boring just like the music plus some unnecessairy Benoit's pretenstious movements.
I love Sonja's creativity.
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Women's SP Video
Links are to video of entire Warmup Groups not individual performances (6 minute warmup not included)
Videos are not high quality but can be viewed in up to 720p
No time for quality check so please let me know if there are any problems with the videos or links
Women SP Warmup Group 1
1. Eliska Brezinova
2. Kaori Sakamoto
3. Ahsun Yun
4. Mako Yamashita
Women SP Warmup Group 2
5. Rinka Watanabe
6. Wakaba Higuchi
7. Sonja Hilmer
8. Mone Chiba
9. Maria Chernyshova
Women SP Warmup Group 3
10. Madeline Schizas
11. Saki Miyake
12. Hana Yoshida
13. Bradie Tennell
14. Haein Lee
Links are to video of entire Warmup Groups not individual performances (6 minute warmup not included)
Videos are not high quality but can be viewed in up to 720p
No time for quality check so please let me know if there are any problems with the videos or links
Women SP Warmup Group 1
1. Eliska Brezinova
2. Kaori Sakamoto
3. Ahsun Yun
4. Mako Yamashita
Women SP Warmup Group 2
5. Rinka Watanabe
6. Wakaba Higuchi
7. Sonja Hilmer
8. Mone Chiba
9. Maria Chernyshova
Women SP Warmup Group 3
10. Madeline Schizas
11. Saki Miyake
12. Hana Yoshida
13. Bradie Tennell
14. Haein Lee
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Saki getting 34 PCS is the dopamine hit I have earned today. Also love the budget increase for the dress.
Was curious about the Mako - Rinka - Hana bunch. Rinka getting the highest PCS among them is probably a 3A attempt bonus (?!?!?) a bit random, but I do think her performance was the most nuanced of the three, so far away from how she was back in 2022 when she first skated Roxanne. Mako skated really pretty well. I have always find Hana's skating gimmicky and juniorish, and her program does nothing to change my opinion.
Was curious about the Mako - Rinka - Hana bunch. Rinka getting the highest PCS among them is probably a 3A attempt bonus (?!?!?) a bit random, but I do think her performance was the most nuanced of the three, so far away from how she was back in 2022 when she first skated Roxanne. Mako skated really pretty well. I have always find Hana's skating gimmicky and juniorish, and her program does nothing to change my opinion.
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I haven't seen any of the skating... and I know Maddie is not the best in PCS. But a clean program versus one with two falls... and that program with two falls done by Rinka who is definitely not the best Japanese skater when it comes to PCS... I found it strange that the flawed program was scored higher in PCS... just saying.
I don't know Saki. She must be very good because on top of high PCS and GOE she couldn't get tech bonus points with her combo here being the simplest one.
I eventually gave up on it because of the buffering. Hopefully you have better bandwidth than I do.
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Huge, huge jumps, soft knees, Japanese basics. I find her a strong if not necessarily the most compelling (style-wise) skater
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What @Ichatdelune said, and also a matter of a perfect match between skater and program with the (recycled) Think of Me SP. Like there is not a foot wrong in the way that program is choreographed and how Saki skated it. She's much much weaker in the FS (tech and program wise) so that's where she's vulnerable of getting overtaken.
Among the non-Japanese, I enjoyed Madeline the most today. The immersion between her and her program is a lot better than Bradie's (there's one thing I HATE is choppy sharp movements with flowing music and after 10 seconds of Bradie skating I just closed the window because I hate how discordant it was).
I think the components difference with Rinka is just there is this one section of Madeline's Black Swan SP that I find discordant between the flow of the music and the intense physical and facial expression she was making (step sequence), while Rinka doesn't have that.
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Anyone want some smoke? I am at the blue dot.
Yikes - smoke central. Stay safe Chris.
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haven't watched everyone yet, and maybe its just me but i thought they hosed Wakaba. even with the fall i thought 59 was quite low, only 4 points above Sonja is kind of insane.
i want Sonja to skate faster so badly. she would rotate her jumps.
i'm so glad Mone kept her short, it's so freaking good.
i want Sonja to skate faster so badly. she would rotate her jumps.
i'm so glad Mone kept her short, it's so freaking good.
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I am looking forward to watching her.
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Again, I am looking forward to discovering her. It seems like each year, there is a new Japanese skater who is just a wonderful (for me) discovery.
I don't know... Maybe Rinka's program is more compelling... Will have to watch but two major mistakes should be more costly than overdone facial expressions. This being said, I like Maddie being fierced in that section of the SP. She is embodying the black swan mood in there which is what the program is all about. I think she could improve the steps, and as a matter of fact, she only got level 2 here. But, that's something to consider, the problem is not PCS for me... it's technical. She's never had the best step sequences and she should lose levels and GOE for them, and she does. So should she also be penalized in terms of PCS for that ? Maybe a bit in skating skills... but not necessarily for the rest.
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It pays to be dumb about skating and just enjoy the artistry! LOL!
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Cant take any more late nights! Best wishes to the ladies in the free and I will catch you all on demand....
Watch for the come back kid!
Watch for the come back kid!
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