2025 Skate America Men's Free Skate
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Wow, this was not good at all. But in fairness Skate America is looking pretty weak on tallent. Jason Brown could have won this event with a good freeskate. Without a quad. This was so so not impressive but consistent with the other events. The pairs was equally as bad other than the Japanese. What is going on. Is everyone waitng til the olympics? In part this might just be a weaker quadrennial which happens. But the skates here were not great. The programs not that exciting Mikaildid not look good here and cemented there is Ilia and then...Mikail, Egaze, the inconsistent French duo, the inconsistent Italian Trio, quadless Brown., inconsistent Cha. It is still early relatively in the season and the scores tend to get higher and inflatdd come olympics but this isn't great. I guess exciting still. Ilia for men looks so far ahead and I am not so sure who is the fave for the rest of the men's odium now.
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I have to watch the replay but looking at the total scores you must be right. Very weak field. So much lower than the other GPs. 253 for the winner is really weird.
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I am sorry, I am honestly not being mean, but your typo is so apt for what we just saw and have the whole GP series
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Last year GP France 246.58 was gold and 233.84 was silver.253 points gold medalCrazy
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Sorry in advance, but Jason has not had a signature long program since Riverdance, over a decade ago. I feel that every long he's had this decade has been exactly the same program set to different music. No actual interpretation.
Jason has had great shorts. He's so creative, I don't understand why his long programs are so boiler plate.
Got to see Flores and Wang. Loved what I saw
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I heard the original of Say Something with another skater recently . I will take Jason's cover every day of the week and twice on Sunday over that one. But I grew up on old school RnB, so the style agrees with me. Of course I'm sorry he didn't have a better skate, but also of course he will entrance me no matter what.
Bravo, Kévin! Especially after the disappointments earlier this season. I love both these programs.
Comparing scores across comps is a fool's errand for me.
You win in the comp you're skating.
Bravo, Kévin! Especially after the disappointments earlier this season. I love both these programs.
Comparing scores across comps is a fool's errand for me.
You win in the comp you're skating.
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i 2 am i was still in the middle of a date with a couple of drinks
he is on my notepad
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Apart from him, the costumes were not too WTF... which was a nice change.
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honestly they're all very plain this season, which is not a nice change for me
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I think it’s something like this:
1. Ilia Malinin
HUGE GAP
2. Yuma Kagiyama, 3. Adam Siao Him Fa, 4. Shun Sato (These men could flip flop depending on how they skate, but I think it’s clear to say that they are favored for Olympic silver and bronze)
Gap
5. Mikhail Shaidorov, 6. Kevin Aymoz, 7. Jason Brown, 8. Lukas Britschgi, 9. Daniel Grassl, 10. Luka Egadze, 11. Junhwan Cha, 12. Aleksandr Selevko, 13. Rizzo or Memola, etc. (These men could totally flip flop depending on how they skate)
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With the men, it’s just stunning how god awful some of these programs are for an Olympic season; Shaidorov, Grassl, Egadze, I’m looking at all of you! Even with Jason Brown, this season’s FS is definitely the weakest one he’s had this quad. I do like Johnny Weir’s explanation of why Jason chose this music though; for so long he was judged and criticized both nationally and internationally for not having a reliable quad jump in his arsenal and he had to find the courage to find his voice, purpose and meaning in this sport to cater his skating and programs to highlight his strengths (spins, footwork, extension, posture) and maximize the PCS to create his own impact to this sport. He was ready to give up in 2018 after not making the Olympic team as he struggled to include a quad jump in his programs. He made the decision to completely overhaul his approach to skating and move from the US to Canada and the Cricket Club to find his light again.
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I think what makes this event seem so much worse is the free skating. There were some good scores in the short program but the free skates were mostly pretty disastrous.
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To defend the men a bit - and honestly, I'm not sure how I landed here - it's still relatively early in the season, and I'm not sure we should be projecting a poor Olympic season yet.
Think about it. How much do you think these programs must have improved in the last three months - since middle of August? Well, we still have three more months for things to get even better. I'm an optimist in this regard.
Think about it. How much do you think these programs must have improved in the last three months - since middle of August? Well, we still have three more months for things to get even better. I'm an optimist in this regard.
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if you landed something, you shouldn't be in this thread. LOL
Olympic years are indeed sometimes weird... Some skaters are prepared too early and do not do well at the Games, I know a few things about that one... and some skaters do take a bit of extra time to rest during the off-season (sometimes to take care of injuries) as they know they will not peak twice in the season. Usually, skaters will aim to have a good GP season, then rest, then a good Worlds. Now, some of them though they will take part in the GP series, are only aiming to peak for February. There is not a lot of time from GP to Olympics to have another rest period to peak twice, so some will decide to start slower... This being said, what we saw yesterday is worse than what I have observed in other GPs and in other Olympic seasons.
Some will get better. I am sure skaters will be more in shape and jumps will be better. But some programs are also very ill-conceived and that will not improve
