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Has anyone done a 4 loop yet? I think Mao did one before in pratice, but two-footed it? Can anyone confrim this. Or answer the first question
4 loop.
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The first one was Tonya Harding in a public skating rink. True or not?
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I believe Tim Goebel had one ratified at Skate America in about 1999 ish. I know he became the first skater to ever land 3 different quads in one program - a feat which has never been repeated.
I think they were the Sal, Toe, and Loop. Can someone else verify?
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I think they were the Sal, Toe, and Loop. Can someone else verify?
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Goebel was the first person to land 3 Quads in a program, not 3 different Quads. I don't think he (or anyone else) has ever done a Quad Loop in competition.
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Nope.
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Yes, I think it was in this video she practiced the quad loop at 3:10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4-9fg-KrME
Goebel did two 4sal and one 4toe the time(s) he did three triples in a program.
Quad loops have been attempted in practice by various skaters. The earliest reference I found was in a book by Didier Gailhauget from ca. 1974 saying that Ronnie Robertson had been landing some around that time (i.e., in his late 30s). !
Here's a report of many difficult quads being attempted at a competition practice, but I'm not clear from the report whether any of them were actually attempted in the competition itself. Certainly they were not successful.
http://topjump2001.free.fr/eraquad.htm
This was just a jump competition. If we ever are going to see really difficult jumps attempted and eventually landed in competition, it's more likely to be in that kind of format, where the skaters don't need to maintain enough energy and concentration for another 4 minutes worth of complicated program before and after.
Quad loops have been attempted in practice by various skaters. The earliest reference I found was in a book by Didier Gailhauget from ca. 1974 saying that Ronnie Robertson had been landing some around that time (i.e., in his late 30s). !
Here's a report of many difficult quads being attempted at a competition practice, but I'm not clear from the report whether any of them were actually attempted in the competition itself. Certainly they were not successful.
http://topjump2001.free.fr/eraquad.htm
This was just a jump competition. If we ever are going to see really difficult jumps attempted and eventually landed in competition, it's more likely to be in that kind of format, where the skaters don't need to maintain enough energy and concentration for another 4 minutes worth of complicated program before and after.
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I hope someone tries it ><. Loop jump is sooo beautiful.
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Lambiel's Loop is gorgeous. I can definitely see him being able to do the 4Loop.
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Same. I love lambiel's loop. I wish miki and mao will try 4lo. I think mao will try 4lo next season as she is very ambitious and always surprises everyone with all the challenges that she puts herself into.
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yeah. many male skaters struggle with the triple, never minid the quad. BEcause the loop really just uses the strength of our body to gain height, it would make a quad VERY difficult. M. Weiss tried a few quad lutzes back in day, none were sucessful.
I agree however, that if anybody was to land a quad loop. it would be stephane.
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I think a lot of prerotation on the ice before takeoff could appear as if a 4R was executed. It would look lovely in a series: single, double, triiple, quad with the right music.
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I think who ever attempt will break/snap their hips before the 4Lo is retified or even landed with cheated rotation.
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I think mao might be the first to do it for the ladies....
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I believe that practicing the 4Loop would be terrible for Mao. Way too likely to injure herself and I doubt she can actually fully rotate it anyway.
IMO, she needs to focus on getting the 3Axel, 3Flip-3Loop, and 2Axel-3Toe as consistent as possible.
IMO, she needs to focus on getting the 3Axel, 3Flip-3Loop, and 2Axel-3Toe as consistent as possible.
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I'd love to see Joannie try a quad loop personally. So far she has the cleanest take off I've seen. There's simply no pre-rotation at all and she gets such a pop. And I agree about Stephane's loop being beautiful too, especially when done with the running three entry. He has some of the most buttery, airy edge jumps.
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