U.S. Men: Juniors vs. Seniors

[enlight78]

I have notice that a lot of the jr men that are participating in the jr grand prix have nice 3A's but the 3A have given are sr men a lot of trouble.Does that mean the next generation is better or that the added pressure in senoirs is a whole different thing.

 

[merrybari]

I have notice that a lot of the jr men that are participating in the jr grand prix have nice 3A's but the 3A have given are sr men a lot of trouble.Does that mean the next generation is better or that the added pressure in senoirs is a whole different thing.

I think it's more a question of location of center of gravity as the senior men grow taller and broader than their junior counterparts. Check back - IIRC, senior men didn't have 3A problems as juniors either. JMO.

 

[Tonichelle]

I think Keegan's fantastic I don't know that I'd say they are BETTER... I think issues like the one merrybari pointed out has a lot to do with the change... but i think the cycles ebb and flow so they might end up being stronger... just as Evan/Johnny's generation seem to have been better than the generation before them (with exceptions of course)

 

[enlight78]

Well i think the US jr men have a better chance of winning the gpf then the sr men.

 

[shine]

Well i think the US jr men have a better chance of winning the gpf then the sr men.

Is that supposed to be a joke? :scratch:

 

[Medusa]

I doubt that the ability to land a 3A is a sign for superior quality of a generation. And just in 2008 a US-American man won Junior Worlds without a 3A.

There are loads of skaters who can land a 3A, and who never made it far. Just look at US senior Nationals. Bradley rarely makes it to big internationals - and he has got a big Triple Axel. Vaughn Chipeur of Canada has - and had a big Triple Axel for years, and only managed to make the World Team this year.

The juniors need to be able to combine their 3As with the other 6 or 7 clean jumps, otherwise it's not worth much.

 

[enlight78]

Is that supposed to be a joke? :scratch:

no i ment US jr men chances at the jgpf is better than the US sr men chances at the gpf.

I doubt that the ability to land a 3A is a sign for superior quality of a generation. And just in 2008 a US-American man won Junior Worlds without a 3A.

There are loads of skaters who can land a 3A, and who never made it far. Just look at US senior Nationals. Bradley rarely makes it to big internationals - and he has got a big Triple Axel. Vaughn Chipeur of Canada has - and had a big Triple Axel for years, and only managed to make the World Team this year.

The juniors need to be able to combine their 3As with the other 6 or 7 clean jumps, otherwise it's not worth much.

i haven't been watching jrs until past two season. I was just caught off gaurd by how many jrs had relatively solid triples axels compared to the senior counterparts. I was just focus on the Axel becuase last season the axel kept carrier; evan; patrick ; weir; from medaling higher at certain events. the strange thing is the jr 3/3 are shaky. Yes bradley has a huge triple axel but it is wild not solid at all.