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Olivia is a lovely person. Instead of being upset she just said "ok good scores with that skate".
Finnish national championships (12th-14th December)
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True, Iida got the spot by 3,24 points. Wow. I guess victory ceremonies will not be streamed later in TV either.I think Iida got the EC spot anyway, as she went to Zagreb+these scores are enough.
I would have liked to see the medal ceremony but the broadcasting finished.or will it be later?
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Yes, I of course if it is later or elsewhere than on the ice it will cannot be broadcasted. How it usually is at nationals, do you know?
I can't remember did Solidsport stream them, sorry. And I can't remember when the nationals were live streamed in YLE arena earlier. Maybe never?
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Some years ago nats were sent at Ruutu+ and I bough it but I don't remember either.
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Men were step up from last couple of years. We still didn't see clean 3A/quad, but at least we saw credible attempts. Previous years the guys have struggled with 3Lutz. Future looks promising, for long we have been carried by Dr Steelblade, and finally challengers look like they are passing him by. Poor Valtteri looked gassed after his program 
Though, it's somewhat unfortunate we are now sending another Dune to ECh. I liked Makar's program more, though Lindfors was deserving winner.
Women:
*Janna Jyrkinen: oh no
* Selma Välitalo: oh noooo....'Myrskyluodon Maija' is so beautiful program, my favourite Finnish single this season, but she fluffed EVERY jump. Well, there is next year.
*Oona, Linnea...hey this looks good, oops, there's the cactus.
*Why is this such a splatfest...? Oh, we were just waiting for "Lida". Contest is over, hand her the gold medal.
*Okay maybe let Olivia skate too. Well, she's also good. But she would have needed to nail everything today to win, and she didn't. Good job anyways
Ice dance...well, both top pairs were somewhat below last years' shape. It's understandable. Ivanitskij/Sperry have improved (although Sperry had some weird stumbles today). Kinda weird that points were almost exact same as last year. Anyway, I'm happy we'll send all three.
Though, it's somewhat unfortunate we are now sending another Dune to ECh. I liked Makar's program more, though Lindfors was deserving winner.
Women:
*Janna Jyrkinen: oh no
* Selma Välitalo: oh noooo....'Myrskyluodon Maija' is so beautiful program, my favourite Finnish single this season, but she fluffed EVERY jump. Well, there is next year.
*Oona, Linnea...hey this looks good, oops, there's the cactus.
*Why is this such a splatfest...? Oh, we were just waiting for "Lida". Contest is over, hand her the gold medal.
*Okay maybe let Olivia skate too. Well, she's also good. But she would have needed to nail everything today to win, and she didn't. Good job anyways
Ice dance...well, both top pairs were somewhat below last years' shape. It's understandable. Ivanitskij/Sperry have improved (although Sperry had some weird stumbles today). Kinda weird that points were almost exact same as last year. Anyway, I'm happy we'll send all three.
Who has the Euros spot for men? Matias has a higher senior SB than Valter and has won your nationals. Does that mean Matias goes to Euros now, or will they send Valter to Euros still and just send Matias to junior worlds? Makar Suntsev has higher scores than Valter as well?
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Finland made the selections immediately after nationals. Who won nationals is not criteria, scores from nationals is more important but not the criteria either.
Women: Iida Karhunen
Subsitutes in order: Olivia Lisko, Linnea Ceder
Men: Matias Lindfors
Subsitutes in order: Makar Suntsev, Valtter Virtanen
ID: Juulia Turkkila–Matthias Versluis, Yuka Orihara–Juho Pirinen, Daniela Ivanitskiy–Matthew Sperry
The selection criterias singles link in Finnish can be checked here is pure math so after typing the scores to the calculation sheet, they could announce the selection.
statistics
Yhe criterias in singles are:
- Two best scores of the season counted together. Accepted scores are nationals, qualification to nationals, Olympig qualification and international ISU competitions.
- Other criterias for Euros are At least one of accepted scores must be GP, CS or olympic qualifiacion and one must be reached between 1st Noverber-14th December.
So for example, if skaters' best scores are from small international competition and nationals, she/he will not be selected if somebody else has lower scores based on criterias. Olympic and Worlds are kind similar, but for Worlds the nationals is not counted as another competition must be after 1st January and another CP, CS, olympic qualification or Euros. So practically other's CS scores are so low so Worlds spot is between Iida and Olivia.
Our commentators said anybody can go to Worlds, but it is not true, because it means others need so huge scores that no other skater can reach it even with a clean skaters with best levels as they do not have high CS scores. They would need quads and 3As to reach that score. I wonder did they just want to keep the excitiment or have they not read the rules.
There are also ifs as the rules say "fed can also choose another skater from a good reason". ID has a little bit different criterias. T/V do not fill the criterias, but in case of them they use a if-sentence because of an understandable reason.
To nationals. I feel so sorry for Selma. She would have needed just to skate like at Finlandia, even not full clean and bronze would have been hers. Her nerves must have taken her as she was a position she did not expect. She has potential and before nationals I was thinking she may be the one who will get bronze.
Edit: I just noticed that skater must choose between JWC/WC. So, if Matias will get WC minimums and want to goes there, somebody else will go to JWC. But - there are ifs. Probably if nobody else gets the minimums, I suppose in that case a skater who possible have both, can be selected to both. Cases like this the ifs in critecias can be used, I think. But probably Makar has better chance to get the WC minimums if he can jump his 3As clean in an international competition. I think he already once did.
Iida's name is on the JWC list, I think it is a mistake because one competition must be international junior competition this season based on the rules. Or they have decied to use an "if" because Iida has best chances be at top10 and secure two spots.
Women: Iida Karhunen
Subsitutes in order: Olivia Lisko, Linnea Ceder
Men: Matias Lindfors
Subsitutes in order: Makar Suntsev, Valtter Virtanen
ID: Juulia Turkkila–Matthias Versluis, Yuka Orihara–Juho Pirinen, Daniela Ivanitskiy–Matthew Sperry
The selection criterias singles link in Finnish can be checked here is pure math so after typing the scores to the calculation sheet, they could announce the selection.
statistics
Yhe criterias in singles are:
- Two best scores of the season counted together. Accepted scores are nationals, qualification to nationals, Olympig qualification and international ISU competitions.
- Other criterias for Euros are At least one of accepted scores must be GP, CS or olympic qualifiacion and one must be reached between 1st Noverber-14th December.
So for example, if skaters' best scores are from small international competition and nationals, she/he will not be selected if somebody else has lower scores based on criterias. Olympic and Worlds are kind similar, but for Worlds the nationals is not counted as another competition must be after 1st January and another CP, CS, olympic qualification or Euros. So practically other's CS scores are so low so Worlds spot is between Iida and Olivia.
Our commentators said anybody can go to Worlds, but it is not true, because it means others need so huge scores that no other skater can reach it even with a clean skaters with best levels as they do not have high CS scores. They would need quads and 3As to reach that score. I wonder did they just want to keep the excitiment or have they not read the rules.
There are also ifs as the rules say "fed can also choose another skater from a good reason". ID has a little bit different criterias. T/V do not fill the criterias, but in case of them they use a if-sentence because of an understandable reason.
To nationals. I feel so sorry for Selma. She would have needed just to skate like at Finlandia, even not full clean and bronze would have been hers. Her nerves must have taken her as she was a position she did not expect. She has potential and before nationals I was thinking she may be the one who will get bronze.
Edit: I just noticed that skater must choose between JWC/WC. So, if Matias will get WC minimums and want to goes there, somebody else will go to JWC. But - there are ifs. Probably if nobody else gets the minimums, I suppose in that case a skater who possible have both, can be selected to both. Cases like this the ifs in critecias can be used, I think. But probably Makar has better chance to get the WC minimums if he can jump his 3As clean in an international competition. I think he already once did.
Iida's name is on the JWC list, I think it is a mistake because one competition must be international junior competition this season based on the rules. Or they have decied to use an "if" because Iida has best chances be at top10 and secure two spots.
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Lahti / FIN - Wemasto Areena| Entries/Results | RD, MS & WS | FD, MF & WF
Junior Men Short 1 Benjamin ERIKSSON 2 Luukas VUORINEN 3 Henri MOISIO 4 Romulus PELTONEN 5 Anton ERKAMA 6 Matias HEINONEN Senior Men Short 1 Max SENE 2 Toivo KOKK 3 Jan OLLIKAINEN 4 Severi VARPIO 5 Arttu JUUSOLA 6 Matias LINDFORS 7 Valtter VIRTANEN 8 Makar SUNTSEV | Junior Women Short 1 Neela VAINIKAINEN 2 Meea MÄNNIKKÖ 3 Ulla NIEMINEN 4 Helmi SAXLUND 5 Elina JÄRVINEN 6 Maisa UUTELA 7 Nella ANDELIN 8 Lidiia TSUKANOVA 9 Natalie TIEVA 10 Aino SANTAHARJU 11 Josefiina PUIRO 12 Tuuli MÄNTTÄRI 13 Lotta ARTIMO 14 Karina INNOS 15 Julia VÄHÄ-RUOHOLA 16 Saaga VOLKOVA 17 Pinja PELTOLA 18 Annika PELLONMAA 19 Venla SINISALO 20 Nella HEIKKINEN 21 Minea MONTONEN | Senior Women Short 1 Vivi NURMI 2 Meri-Vuokko HANNULA 3 Edith MATTILA 4 Lotta KOSKINEN 5 Henna TAKKI 6 Minja PELTONEN 7 Oona OUNASVUORI 8 Aurora SAMMELVUO 9 Heidi MOISIO 10 Nella PELKONEN 11 Linnea CEDER 12 Iida KARHUNEN 13 Janna JYRKINEN 14 Olivia LISKO 15 Selma VÄLITALO | No Junior Pairs No Senior Pairs Junior Rhythm Dance 1 Cilla LAINE / Urho REINA 2 Lumia SASSI / Aarne SAVOLA 3 Iris LAHTI / Oskari LIEDENPOHJA 4 Eva ROZHNOVA / Platon ZUBKOV Senior Rhythm Dance 1 Daniela IVANITSKIY / Matthew SPERRY 2 Yuka ORIHARA / Juho PIRINEN 3 Juulia TURKKILA / Matthias VERSLUIS |
Junior Men Free 1 Luukas VUORINEN 2 Henri MOISIO 3 Anton ERKAMA 4 Romulus PELTONEN 5 Matias HEINONEN WD 6 Benjamin ERIKSSON Senior Men Free 1 Max SENE 2 Toivo KOKK 3 Severi VARPIO 4 Jan OLLIKAINEN 6 Makar SUNTSEV 7 Matias LINDFORS 8 Valtter VIRTANEN | Junior Women Free 1 Elina JÄRVINEN 2 Neela VAINIKAINEN 3 Helmi SAXLUND 4 Aino SANTAHARJU 5 Natalie TIEVA 6 Julia VÄHÄ-RUOHOLA 7 Maisa UUTELA 8 Lidiia TSUKANOVA 9 Tuuli MÄNTTÄRI 10 Meea MÄNNIKKÖ 11 Nella HEIKKINEN 12 Josefiina PUIRO 13 Karina INNOS 14 Ulla NIEMINEN 15 Lotta ARTIMO 16 Saaga VOLKOVA 17 Nella ANDELIN 18 Venla SINISALO 19 Minea MONTONEN 20 Pinja PELTOLA 21 Annika PELLONMAA | Senior Women Free 1 Lotta KOSKINEN 2 Meri-Vuokko HANNULA 3 Henna TAKKI 4 Edith MATTILA 5 Heidi MOISIO 6 Vivi NURMI 7 Aurora SAMMELVUO 8 Nella PELKONEN 9 Minja PELTONEN 10 Janna JYRKINEN 11 Oona OUNASVUORI 12 Linnea CEDER 13 Selma VÄLITALO 14 Iida KARHUNEN 15 Olivia LISKO | No Junior Pairs No Senior Pairs Junior Free Dance 1 Lumia SASSI / Aarne SAVOLA 2 Cilla LAINE / Urho REINA 3 Eva ROZHNOVA / Platon ZUBKOV 4 Iris LAHTI / Oskari LIEDENPOHJA Senior Free Dance 1 Daniela IVANITSKIY / Matthew SPERRY 2 Yuka ORIHARA / Juho PIRINEN 3 Juulia TURKKILA / Matthias VERSLUIS |
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Fixed. Forgive me for being human - do you know how many results I have posted??
Also more videos just added
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It wasn't intended as a criticism - just wanted to draw your attention to it, and yes I've seen the volume of results you posted, and your efforts are appreciated.
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