Oh boy...can't wait to see the responses to this one. I sense you're making a subtle point here.
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Oh boy...can't wait to see the responses to this one. I sense you're making a subtle point here.
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How has Yu-Na's career been damaged since his comments? Has she lost endorsement opportunities? If she doesn't go to Worlds, is it because of his actions or the basic fact that winning everything in sight challenges her motivation? I think you're overstating it by a considerable margin. She's a legend in part due to his tuttelage. I don't see his comments undoing, undermining or in any way changing that. Hell, you've come here as a consequence of this and are defending her. I don't think you're dedication to Kim, regardless of his actions, changes.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4906030&fbid=431645852377&id=53417067377
It is a translation of letter YUNA wrote in her cyworld(KOREA's facebook)
Translated by FEVERSKATING (Korea figureskating forum)
It is a translation of letter YUNA wrote in her cyworld(KOREA's facebook)
Translated by FEVERSKATING (Korea figureskating forum)
Perfect example why I believe it was necessary for Brian to come out with this now. Christina Gao is meant to compete in three weeks time. Hopefully within that time people will be over this, bored with it and hopefully YuNa can move to a new club and coach where she is happy and then people who make youtube videos like that can move on to new hobbies.
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I was wondering about the previous posters's comments - "his actions speak louder than words."
I think that in this case the actions of Yuna's team speak much louder than Orser's words.
I also think they will get past this, even f it has been handled poorly by ATS. What is interesting is that some are complaining that Brian is hurting Yuna. I don't necessarily see it that way. They have to remember Brian is responsible for training and protecting skaters like Adam and Christina now. He is no longer in charge of Yuna's training and his responsibilty is to others.
This was Yuna and her management teams decision to move on. They should move already.
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Oh, they have, haven't they? They thought after Aug.2 meeting with Brian, they've moved on. I guess they might never planned to make a public statement unless they want to announce Yu Na's retirement.
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That's what I figured. And I agree. Also Brian has responsibility as the director of the skating program of the Cricket Club to think about as well.
And my response to the whole career damage thing. I find it tough to say that after Brian (and the Cricket Club) provided her a private setting to practice so she could succeed in her career. Brian has always protected Yuna from the public (has everyone forgotten his media handling pre-Olympics?) and I don't blame him if he feels a little slighted that he wasn't given the same courtesy.
Maybe the silver lining of this is maybe Brian can focus on Christina and we can see some movement in U.S. ladies figure skating.
Then they were very naive to think that this was going to be private. That an Olympic gold medallist with the following she has could quietly dismiss a coach, particularly this one and keep it amongst themselves with no public statement? Very naive.
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Why the media has not mentioned that the contract between Yuna and Orser had been ended in March? They could split with good memories on the Olympics since the contract had not been renewed... It's really pity that the good memories are messed up and the situation is getting complicated..
and...Yes, there could be problems in seemingly perfect relationship like one for Brian and Yuna.
But everydone doesn't need to know all the details. I cannot understand why this becomes such a big deal. I was puzzled why there is so much media coverage and why interviews go on and on.
Simply core of this problem is termination of a contract between a skater and a coach.
Yes, this didn't end with "happily there after" like a fairytale, but it doesn't mean this should be like a messy soap opera!
and...Yes, there could be problems in seemingly perfect relationship like one for Brian and Yuna.
But everydone doesn't need to know all the details. I cannot understand why this becomes such a big deal. I was puzzled why there is so much media coverage and why interviews go on and on.
Simply core of this problem is termination of a contract between a skater and a coach.
Yes, this didn't end with "happily there after" like a fairytale, but it doesn't mean this should be like a messy soap opera!
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Oser's interview
From fsu,
http://news.sbs.co.kr/section_news/news_read.jsp?news_id=N1000786524http://news.sbs.co.kr/section_news/news_read.jsp?news_id=N1000786524
There is " Her(mao) agency did inquire about me(and team) working with her,I told them"
From fsu,
http://news.sbs.co.kr/section_news/news_read.jsp?news_id=N1000786524http://news.sbs.co.kr/section_news/news_read.jsp?news_id=N1000786524
There is " Her(mao) agency did inquire about me(and team) working with her,I told them"
Once again I'm confused...very inconsistent from his interviews from the past.
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Really, Brian had to announce the split, and I'm surprised he didn't do it sooner. The only reasons for his delay that makes sense to me is that he was waiting for Yu Na or her agency to announce it, or that he truly wasn't positive that Yu Na had moved on. When Yu Na's agency didn't announce the split. Indeed, both Brian, and the Cricket Club were left in a bind, where they had to announce.
After all, Brian as coach, and Cricket Club as a seller of ice time, have a large vacant block of time for sale since Yu Na will not be there. I find it telling that Brian also stated in one of those interviews that his rates were $110 a hour, with no percentage of any of Yu Na's earning, making him, as he said, probably the most reasonably priced coach at that ultra elite level.
There is a certain amount of "coach available, ice time available, advertisement that I think went on, as well as all the other stuff.
After all, Brian as coach, and Cricket Club as a seller of ice time, have a large vacant block of time for sale since Yu Na will not be there. I find it telling that Brian also stated in one of those interviews that his rates were $110 a hour, with no percentage of any of Yu Na's earning, making him, as he said, probably the most reasonably priced coach at that ultra elite level.
There is a certain amount of "coach available, ice time available, advertisement that I think went on, as well as all the other stuff.
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I wonder who will be Yuna's coach after this?
I seriously doubt any Canadian coach will now take her on.
I kind of think that no American would be happy to relate to her.
I don't see any Russian coach saying yes.
Likewise with Japanese, though I suppose Team Yuna would not even go there in the first place.
I'm inclined to think that she'd be cold-shouldered by Europe.
So that leaves seeking out coaches in the continents of South America or Africa, or countries like India, Australia, China, Korea, as well as Middle Eastern countries.
Maybe a Chinese coach is the most realistic? But that's so unrealistic, actually!
So basically, as things stand now, she's not likely to find anyone to replace Brian Orser. She may be able to go one season without a coach, but not much longer! So that means her amateur career is basically over, and without her amateur career, she won't remain bankable for too long. Without Yuna Kim, how will Korean figure skating federation increase their clout?
If I were ATS, I would issue the most sincerest apology possible post haste and hope for mercy!
I seriously doubt any Canadian coach will now take her on.
I kind of think that no American would be happy to relate to her.
I don't see any Russian coach saying yes.
Likewise with Japanese, though I suppose Team Yuna would not even go there in the first place.
I'm inclined to think that she'd be cold-shouldered by Europe.
So that leaves seeking out coaches in the continents of South America or Africa, or countries like India, Australia, China, Korea, as well as Middle Eastern countries.
Maybe a Chinese coach is the most realistic? But that's so unrealistic, actually!
So basically, as things stand now, she's not likely to find anyone to replace Brian Orser. She may be able to go one season without a coach, but not much longer! So that means her amateur career is basically over, and without her amateur career, she won't remain bankable for too long. Without Yuna Kim, how will Korean figure skating federation increase their clout?
If I were ATS, I would issue the most sincerest apology possible post haste and hope for mercy!
She still has two Canadians choreographing for her ( Wilson and Bourne ) and there is a lot of money connected with YuNa so she should be able to find another coach.
Whether it's the kind of coach she needs to thrive is anyone's guess but for the right price she shouldn't have trouble finding someone to coach her.
Whether it's the kind of coach she needs to thrive is anyone's guess but for the right price she shouldn't have trouble finding someone to coach her.
Soo negative here. But what do you expect?
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I think you're seriously mistaken to think that Team Yuna can salvage this with money.
Wilson and Bourne agreed to choreograph her before all of this happened. I just don't see them even agreeing to choreograph for Yuna after this season much less coach her.
They might get a 'Canadian' coach for a huge amount of money, but then this 'Canadian' will be marked out as a traitor and be alienated from his/her country for the rest of his/her life. Brian Orser, I believe, is a national hero.
There are certain things that can't be bought with money.
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Hersh's brilliant words, "Don't mess with success." 
This time around I guess Hersh is safe.
This time around I guess Hersh is safe.Yuna and Morozov in Kiss & Cry is not something I would like to see. I think she won't have a problem finding another coach but Canadian coaches may be a little wary of taking her on, because I think the coaches there are part of a tight community and know each other pretty well.
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