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Here are the protocols.

The following is the main reason as to why Sui & Han were beaten on TES by Yu & Jin

3T+2T<<+SEQ << 3.60 -2.10 -3 -3 -3 -3 -3 -3 -3 -3 -3 1.50
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Mao88 said:
Here are the protocols.

The following is the main reason as to why Sui & Han were beaten on TES by Yu & Jin
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Cong messed that one up but I had thought with all their big tricks S/H would still be ahead. I have to give it to this team for really throwing themselves into the roles, skating two programs of completely different styles and characters. Early Chinese pairs used to take a while to get into the performance side of skating.
 
from this account: http://www.youtube.com/user/Direktor40/videos

1 Wenjing SUI - Cong HAN (CHN)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6U_...xt=C30ee52dUDOEgsToPDskJHb1EsPSYUIyKyIjgsJuSU

2 Xiaoyu YU - Yang JIN (CHN)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLeP...xt=C345150dUDOEgsToPDskJ2LSM9JYN8wZIrNzyFF_40

3 Vasilisa DAVANKOVA - Andrei DEPUTAT (RUS)
they were very happy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs4AcBDzUKw&feature=g-all&context=G2b714e9FAAAAAAAAAAA

Haven DENNEY - Brandon FRAZIER (USA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUxA...xt=C3d79c16UDOEgsToPDskJ9aEu6GkbsfZjpJp2jzpfa

Ekaterina PETAIKINA - Maxim KURDYUKOV (RUS)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pulG...xt=C3d79c16UDOEgsToPDskJ9aEu6GkbsfZjpJp2jzpfa

Katherine BOBAK - Ian BEHARRY (CAN)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVtu...xt=C35c16edUDOEgsToPDskKtJLAPRctfrLNzxj8Yyyxg

Kylie DUARTE - Colin GRAFTON (USA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiK1...xt=C30659e4UDOEgsToPDskK9zojAMHC_DAsNj_patI7q
 
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^

no, but there is a small medal given
for top 3 in short and in free skate separate from the overall medals
 
Interesting... after seeing their short and long (seeing this pair for the first time), Davankova/Deputat do not seem to skate in a strictly Russian style. They have the line, technique and extension, but their skating seems more dynamic/ athletic, and extroverted than the lyrical, balletic style the Russians are known for -- (more like the athletic flair of the Chinese, and the charismatic, athletic NA style of skating).

Re Sui/Han -- an amazing season, but why are they so highly regarded? They did not skate well at Jr. Worlds (at least not in the fp). They do have wonderful tricks performed with flair and brio. I suppose the judges feel that makes up for or masks their weaknesses of immaturity and lack of line and stretch. I think their sp and fp were put together extremely well along with the choice of music and costumes -- especially their Western-themed sp has been a crowd-pleaser all season long.

Seems like the long season caught up with Bobak/Beharry and Simpson/Blackmer.
 
Interesting... after seeing their short and long (seeing this pair for the first time), Davankova/Deputat do not seem to skate in a strictly Russian style. They have the line, technique and extension, but their skating seems more dynamic/ athletic, and extroverted than the lyrical, balletic style the Russians are known for -- (more like the athletic flair of the Chinese, and the charismatic, athletic NA style of skating).
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Because Artur Dmitriev and his partners weren't extroverted? Rodnina was balletic? And I think Trankov is very extroverted too. I think your pigeon holing a lot of the Russian pairs.
 
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Because Artur Dmitriev and his partners weren't extroverted? Rodnina was balletic? And I think Trankov is very extroverted too. I think your pigeon holing a lot of the Russian pairs.
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Volosozhar/Trankov and Stolbova/Klimov are definitely not balletic, also I am seeing a bit of Mishkutionok/Dimitriev in Davankova/Deputat maybe because Andrei and Vasilisa are using the trademark spin of Artur and Natalia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQszbkjxZE0&feature=player_detailpage#t=258s :biggrin:
 
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better quality videos

Vasilisa DAVANKOVA - Andrei DEPUTAT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVR6928FVpk

Katherine BOBAK - Ian BEHARRY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgcSmw_89DM

Kamila GAINETDINOVA - Ivan BICH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xsVyn1xdZI

Meiyi LI - Bo JIANG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhho-K_l0r4

Margaret PURDY - Michael MARINARO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9n11I-Cli8

Hayleigh BELL - Alistair SYLVESTER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwpZD0RKNcY

Julia LAVRENTIEVA - Yuri RUDIK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2_wzn57mLw

Magdalena KLATKA - Radoslaw CHRUSCINSKI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe41JtQyshU
 
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I watched the videos of the top 4 the other day, and honestly none of them impressed me that much, not even my fav international pair couple ~ Sui & Han ~ whom were lacking their usual sparkle imho. Not only that, I'm starting to notice how they & the other Chinese pair team don't hold their positions, nor stretch out their moves, no pointed toes, things like that (reminiscent of Julia Lipinskaya).

Still, Sui & Han were the obvious clear winners, as it should be, with their magnificent 4twist & 4Sthrow! :cool:

That said, the young Russian couple were way better than the Chinese pair teams' when it came to line, extension, but still no cigar when in comparison to America's Gretchen Donlan & Andrew Speroff. Jmho.

As for Denney & Frazier, they're ones to watch out for right now. If they're this good already, I can only imagine what they will be like next year in Seniors! :eek: Caydee Denney honestly has competition from her baby sis & partner. It honestly makes me worried for Donlan & Speroff; they need the sbs jumps. PCS can only take you so far...we shall see...we shall see. *crossing my fingers for D&S*
 
sky_fly20 said:
Volosozhar/Trankov and Stolbova/Klimov are definitely not balletic, also I am seeing a bit of Mishkutionok/Dimitriev in Davankova/Deputat maybe because Andrei and Vasilisa are using the trademark spin of Artur and Natalia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQszbkjxZE0&feature=player_detailpage#t=258s :biggrin:
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Yes bekalc and sky_fly20, I agree that not all the Russian pairs are balletic, nor do they all have similar skating styles. Yet, to me there is a similarity that maybe has to do with the Russian tradition, the culture, the personality. I think the differences and similarities seen with recent pairs from many countries may have more to do with the global melting pot that skating has become. There are definitely a lot of influences and impacts. To me Volosozhar/ Trankov are different from Savchenko/ Szolkowy, yet V/T have patterned themselves in some ways after S/S. I even read that one of V/T coaches had them practicing their stroking in the manner of S/S in order to improve that aspect of their skating. Certainly Tatiana learned a great deal from S/S training style when she and her partner Stanislav Morozov were coached by Ingo Steuer with S/S as their training mates.

Of course Rodnina was more athletic than balletic, but still the Russian technique and temperament was evident in her skating. The Protopopovs and Gordeeva/ Grinkov exemplify the Russian balletic tradition. Dimitriev and Mishketunok finally jelled in an amazing way at their Olympics -- Moskvina worked her magic and Dimitriev was a force of nature, and he brought his partner along with him -- Mishk. rose to the occasion b/c she was not ever a skater who showed much passion or emotion.

I don't think Davankova/ Deputat are at all like Mish/Dimitriev. To me, D/D seem to take the best of the Russian tradition -- line, technique, stretch, musicality and combine that with the new age of skating. I think D/D exhibit various influences seen in the best skaters from the past 10 years, including Berezhn/Sikharulidze; Sale/Pelletier; Shen/ Zhao; and Savchenko/ Szolkowy -- and with a dash of Gordeeva/ Grinkov thrown into the mix. That is how I see D/D -- who are most certainly IMO very different from Illuschink/Masuraidze. To me, I/M as well as Bazarova/ Larionov are from the strict Russian style of skating, while D/D are a breath of fresh air, with much more excitement and potential.

ETA: However, I see from Russian Nats that even Bazarova/ Larionov are infusing their skating with more energy and interesting moves -- again I think incorporating movement ideas and approach from the best in the business: Savchenko/ Szolkowy with also some of the energy and excitement of the Chinese, combined with the inimitable Russian flair (which IMO is based on a strict Russian technique). For me what a number of Russian pairs over the years have lacked is visible passion and excitement (Totm/Marinin & to some extent Berezhnaya too --altho' her partner Sikharulidze made up for it). Of course Dimitriev also displayed passion (and made up for what Mishketunok lacked). To me, D/D seem to have that visible passion and excitement along with excellent technique and budding artistry. At Russian Nats, B/L certainly looked much more alive and energetic than they have previously displayed in their choreography. I suppose V/T and B/L along with K/S will be the more favored Russian pairs over the next couple of year -- unless B/L or K/S eventually lose out to D/D for Sochi Olympics.
 
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