Yuzuru Hanyu: 2012-13 Season

[GS Forum Staff]

Yuzuru Hanyu (羽生 結弦; born December 7, 1994) is a Japanese figure skater and ice show producer, widely considered one of the greatest athletes in the sport’s history. Celebrated for his technical mastery, artistry, longevity, and global influence, he began skating at age four and competed in men’s singles from 2004 to 2022.

Hanyu made history as the first men’s singles skater in 66 years—since Dick Button—to win consecutive Olympic gold medals (2014, 2018), and he became the first Asian man to claim Olympic gold in the discipline. He is a two-time World champion (2014, 2017), a six-time Japanese national champion (2012–2015, 2020–2021), and the first singles skater to capture four straight Grand Prix Final titles (2013–2016).

With his victory at the 2020 Four Continents Championships, Hanyu completed the coveted “Super Slam,” becoming the first men’s singles skater to win every major junior and senior international title. He is also the only singles skater to top the ISU World Standings for five consecutive seasons (2014–2018). Over the course of his career, he broke world records 19 times—the most in singles skating under the ISU Judging System introduced in 2003—and was the first to land a quadruple loop in international competition, among numerous other milestones.



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Competitive Programs by Season

2021-22
SP: Introduction and Rondo Capriccioso by Camille Saint-Saëns | Choreo. by Jeffrey Buttle and Shae-Lynn Bourne
FS: Heaven and Earth (from the NHK taiga series) | Choreo. by Shae-Lynn Bourne

2020-21
SP: "Let Me Entertain You" by Robbie Williams | Choreo. by Jeffrey Buttle
FS: Heaven and Earth (from the NHK taiga series) | Choreo. by Shae-Lynn Bourne

2019-20
SP: "Otoñal" by Raul di Blasio | Choreo. by Jeffrey Buttle
FS: Origin Composed by Edvin Marton | Choreo. by Shae-Lynn Bourne

2018-19
SP: "Otoñal" by Raul di Blasio | Choreo. by Jeffrey Buttle
FS: Origin Composed by Edvin Marton | Choreo. by Shae-Lynn Bourne
EXH: "Haru yo, koi [ja]" by Yumi Matsutoya | Choreo. by David Wilson

2017-2018
SP: "Ballade No. 1 in G minor" by Chopin | Choreo. by Jeffrey Buttle
FS: Seimei from Onmyōji, Onmyōji II | Choreo. by Shae-Lynn Bourne
EXH: "Notte Stellata (The Swan)" by Camille Saint-Saëns | Choreo by David Wilson

2016-17
SP: "Let's Go Crazy" by Prince | Choreo. by Jeffrey Buttle
FS: Hope and Legacy by Joe Hisaishi | Choreo. by Shae-Lynn Bourne
EXH: "Notte Stellata (The Swan)" by Camille Saint-Saëns | Choreo by David Wilson

2015-16
SP: "Ballade No. 1 in G minor" by Chopin | Choreo. by Jeffrey Buttle
FS: Seimei from Onmyōji, Onmyōji II | Choreo. by Shae-Lynn Bourne
EXH: "Requiem of Heaven and Earth" perf. by Yasunobu Matsuo | Choreo. by Kenji Miyamoto

2014-15
SP: "Ballade No. 1 in G minor" by Chopin | Choreo. by Jeffrey Buttle
FS: The Phantom of the Opera by Andrew Lloyd Webber | Choreo. by Shae-Lynn Bourne
EXH:
"Hana wa saku [ja]" by Yoko Kanno | Choreo. by Nanami Abe
"The Final Time Traveler" by Hideki Sakamoto | Choreo. by Kenji Miyamoto

2013-14
SP: "Parisienne Walkways" by Gary Moore and "Hoochie Coochie Man" by Jeff Healey Band | Choreo. by Jeffrey Buttle
FS: Romeo and Juliet | Choreo. by David Wilson
EXH: "Story" by Ai | Choreo. by Kenji Miyamoto

2012-13
SP: "Parisienne Walkways" by Gary Moore and "Hoochie Coochie Man" by Jeff Healey Band | Choreo. by Jeffrey Buttle
FS: Notre-Dame de Paris by Riccardo Cocciante | Choreo. by David Wilson
EXH Routines:
"Hello, I Love You" by The Doors | Choreo. by Kurt Browning
"Hana ni nare" by Fumiya Sashida | Choreo. by Kenji Miyamoto

2011-2012
SP: "Étude in D-sharp minor" by Alexander Scriabin | Choreo. by Nanami Abe, Natalia Bestemianova, Igor Bobrin
FS: Romeo + Juliet by Craig Armstrong | Choreo. by Nanami Abe, Natalia Bestemianova, Igor Bobrin
EXH" "Somebody to Love" performed by Justin Bieber | Choreo. by Nanami Abe

2010-2011
SP: "White Legend" based on Swan Lake by Tchaikovsky | Choreo. by Nanami Abe
FS: Zigeunerweisen by Pablo de Sarasate | Choreo. by Nanami Abe
EXH: "Vertigo" performed by U2 | Choreo. by Nanami Abe

2009-2010
SP: Mission: Impossible 2 by Hans Zimmer | Choreo. by Nanami Abe
FS: Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini by Rachmaninov | Choreo. by Nanami Abe
EXH: "Change" performed by Monkey Majik, Yoshida Brothers | Choreo. by Nanami Abe

Competitive Results

Date	Event	SP	FS	Total
2021-2022 Season
February 4-18, 2022	2022 Olympics	8 (95.15)	3 (188.06)	4 (283.21)
2020-21 Season
March 22-28, 2021	2021 World Championships	1 (106.98)	4 (182.20)	3 (289.18)
December 23–27, 2020	2020-21 Japan Championships	1 (103.53)	1 (215.83)	1 (319.36)
2019-20 Season
February 4–9, 2020	2020 Four Continents	1 (111.82)	1 (187.60)	1 (299.42)
December 18-22, 2019	2019–20 Japan Championships	1 (110.72)	3 (172.05)	2 (282.77)
December 5–8, 2019	2019–20 Grand Prix Final	2 (97.43)	2 (194.00)	2 (291.43)
November 22–24, 2019	2019 NHK Trophy	1 (109.34)	1 (195.71)	1 (305.05)
October 25-27, 2019	2019 Skate Canada International	1 (109.60)	1 (212.99)	1 (322.59)
September 12-14, 2019	2019 CS Autumn Classic International	1 (98.38)	1 (180.67)	1 (279.05)
2018-19 Season
March 18-24, 2019	2019 World Championships	3 (94.87)	2 (206.10)	2 (300.97)
November 16–18, 2018	2018 Rostelecom Cup	1 (110.53)	1 (167.89)	1 (278.42)
November 2–4, 2018	2018 Grand Prix of Helsinki	1 (106.69)	1 (190.43)	1 (297.12)
September 20–22, 2018	2018 Autumn Classic International	1 (97.74)	2 (165.91)	1 (263.65)
2017-18 Season
February 16–17, 2018	2018 Winter Olympics	1 (111.68)	2 (206.17)	1 (317.85)
October 20–22, 2017	2017 Rostelecom Cup	2 (94.85)	1 (195.92)	2 (290.77)
September 20–23, 2017	2017 Autumn Classic International	1 (112.72)	5 (155.52)	2 (268.24)
2016-17 Season
April 20–23, 2017	2017 World Team Trophy	7 (83.51)	1 (200.49)	Team 1st single 3 (284.00)
March 29 – April 2, 2017	2017 World Championships	5 (98.39)	1 (223.20)	1 (321.59)
February 14–19, 2017	2017 Four Continents Championships	3 (97.04)	1 (206.67)	2 )303.71
December 7–11, 2016	2016–17 Grand Prix Final	1 (106.53)	3 (187.37)	1 (293.90)
November 25–27, 2016	2016 NHK Trophy	1 (103.89)	1 (197.58)	1 (301.47)
October 28–30, 2016	2016 Skate Canada International	4 (79.65)	1 (183.41)	2 (263.06)
Sept. 29 – Oct. 1, 2016	2016 Autumn Classic International	1 (88.30)	1 (172.27)	1 (260.57)
2015-16 Season
March 28 – April 3, 2016	2016 World Championships	1 (110.56)	2 (184.61)	2 (295.17)
December 24–27, 2015	2015–16 Japan Championships	1 (102.63)	1 (183.73)	1 (286.36)
December 10–13, 2015	2015–16 Grand Prix Final	1 (110.95)	1 (219.48)	1 (330.43)
November 27–29, 2015	2015 NHK Trophy	1 (106.33)	1 (216.07)	1 (322.40)
Oct. 30 – Nov. 1, 2015	2015 Skate Canada International	6 (73.25)	2 (186.29)	2 (259.54)
October 13–15, 2015	2015 Autumn Classic International	1 (93.14)	1 (184.05)	1 (277.19)
2014-15 Season
April 16–19, 2015	2015 World Team Trophy	1 (96.27)	1 (192.31)	Team 3rd single 1 (288.58)
March 23–29, 2015	2015 World Championships	1 (95.20)	3 (175.88)	2 (271.08)
December 26–28, 2014	2014–15 Japan Championships	1 (94.36)	1 (192.50)	1 (286.86)
December 11–14, 2014	2014–15 Grand Prix Final	1 (94.08)	1 (194.08)	1 (288.16)
November 28–30, 2014	2014 NHK Trophy	5 (78.01)	3 (151.79)	4 (229.80)
November 7–9, 2014	2014 Cup of China	2 (82.95)	2 (154.60)	2 (237.55)
2013-14 Season
March 24–30, 2014	2014 World Championships	3 (91.24)	1 (191.35)	1 (282.59)
February 13–14, 2014	2014 Winter Olympics	1 (101.45)	1 (178.64)	1 (280.09)
February 6–9, 2014	2014 Winter Olympics (team event)	1 (97.98)	–	Team 5th
December 20–23, 2013	2013–14 Japan Championships	1 (103.10)	1 (194.70)	1 (297.80)
December 5–8, 2013	2013–14 Grand Prix Final	1 (99.84)	1 (193.41)	1 (293.25)
November 15–17, 2013	2013 Trophée Éric Bompard	2 (95.37)	2 (168.22)	2 (263.59
October 25–27, 2013	2013 Skate Canada International	3 (80.40)	2 (154.40)	2 (234.80)
October 4–6, 2013	2013 Finlandia Trophy	1 (84.66)	1 (180.93)	1 (265.59)
2012-13 Season
March 10–17, 2013	2013 World Championships	9 (75.94)	3 )169.05	4 (244.99)
February 8–11, 2013	2013 Four Continents Championships	1 (87.65)	3 (158.73)	2 (246.38)
December 20–24, 2012	2012–13 Japan Championships	1 (97.68)	2187.55	1 (285.23)
December 6–9, 2012	2012–13 Grand Prix Final	3 (87.17)	2 (177.12)	2 (264.29)
November 23–25, 2012	2012 NHK Trophy	1 (95.32)	1 (165.71)	1 (261.03)
October 19–21, 2012	2012 Skate America	1 (95.07)	3 (148.67)	2 (243.74)
October 4–7, 2012	2012 Finlandia Trophy	2 (75.57)	1 (172.56)	1 (248.13)
2011-12 Season
March 26 – April 1, 2012	2012 World Championships	7 (77.07)	2 (173.99)	3 (251.06)
December 22–26, 2011	2011–12 Japan Championships	4 (74.32)	1 (167.59)	3 (241.91)
December 8–11, 2011	2011–12 Grand Prix Final	4 (79.33)	3 (166.49)	4 (245.82)
November 25–27, 2011	2011 Rostelecom Cup	2 (82.78)	2 (158.88)	1 (241.66)
November 4–6, 2011	2011 Cup of China	2 (81.37)	4 (145.16)	4 (226.53)
October 14-16, 2011	2012 Tohaku-Hokkaido Block 1 Regional	1 (88.06)	1 (150.77)	1 (238.83)
September 21–24, 2011	2011 Nebelhorn Trophy	1 (75.26)	1 (151.00)	1 (226.26)
2010-11 Season
February 15–20, 2011	2011 Four Continents Championships	3 (76.43)	3 (151.58)	2 (228.01)
December 24–27, 2010	2010–11 Japan Championships	2 (78.94)	4 (141.12)	4 (220.06)
November 18–21, 2010	2010 Cup of Russia	6 (70.24)	6 (132.42)	7 (202.66)
October 21–24, 2010	2010 NHK Trophy	5 (69.31)	4 (138.41)	4 (207.72)
2009-10 Season
March 9-13, 2010	2010 World Junior Championships	3 (68.75)	1 (247.35)	1 (216.10)
December 25-27, 2009	2010 Japanese National Championships	3 (57.99)	1 (137.23)	6 (195.22)
December 2-6, 2009	2010 Junior Grand Prix Final	3 (69.85)	1 (136.92)	1 (206.77)
November 22–23, 2009	2009–10 Japan Junior Championships	1 (76.00)	2 (118.15)	1 (194.15)
October 7-10, 2009	2009 JGP Croatia Cup	1 (70.78)	1 (130.37)	1 (201.15)
September 9-12, 2009	2009 JGP Torun Cup	1 (66.77)	1 (131.88)	1 (198.65)

 

[FTnoona]

His exhibition program at The Ice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ilfh5Glsu_U

Men's Group program
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU7Vf32lk9E&feature=player_embedded

Finale w/Yuzuru landing 4T-3A @ around 2:10 Javi, Mura, Yuzu come out for a quad battle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEzHYfHg1lA&feature=player_embedded

 

[let`s talk]

The Yuzu fan page on livejournal http://yuzuru-hanyu.livejournal.com/124693.html with reference to twitter reported some news on Orser-Yuzu tandem. Orser is happy with Yuzu's jumps but he is completely dissastisfied with his SS. He decided to start working on Yuzu's SS from the basis and he is absolutely adamant on that. He even considers the opportunity that if the boy's SS don't improve, Yuzu will skip Worlds-2013 (yeah, and forget JSF opinion ). As I said the source is twitter, and we all know how irreliable and perfectly reliable it can be. But if one word in the above is true, then it's just .

 

[giulia95]

should I laugh? Should I cry? I'm getting crazy!!!!

 

[giulia95]

Now I got it! Maybe Orser is so dissatisfied with little Yuzu because of his poor stripper SS and because he continuously cries out for his Winnie Pooh Bear!!! :yay:

no, I can't believe the source is reliable!!

Let's talk, you know too many languages!!

 

[emdee]

I think that Hanyu needs better and efficient stroking in order to use the minimum effort for the maximum effect. This will help in his endurance which he definitely has problems with. Charlie White also had asthma ( from what I have read) yet he is able to dance at a tremendous speed.

Tessa Virtue has had to relearn the way she stroked so as to protect her shins.

 

[Tommmy]

Hanyu with Orser in Cricket club
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/384584_10151340748042538_1607241106_n.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7tjlmHNBQ1r1yaqpo1_1280.jpg

And his 4T-3A sequences from The Ice 2011, 2012
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m82ukfva6V1rqqvu8o1_r2_250.gif
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m82ukfva6V1rqqvu8o2_250.gif

 

[phaeljones]

The Yuzu fan page on livejournal http://yuzuru-hanyu.livejournal.com/124693.html with reference to twitter reported some news on Orser-Yuzu tandem. Orser is happy with Yuzu's jumps but he is completely dissastisfied with his SS. He decided to start working on Yuzu's SS from the basis and he is absolutely adamant on that. He even considers the opportunity that if the boy's SS don't improve, Yuzu will skip Worlds-2013 (yeah, and forget JSF opinion ). As I said the source is twitter, and we all know how irreliable and perfectly reliable it can be. But if one word in the above is true, then it's just .

Thanks, Let's Talk. Glad you know the languages.

If this is true, that would be a real shame. A real waste. This is right out there. Can't believe it. Too weird even for Orser.

 

[janetfan]

I think even casual fans can see despite his incredible talent Yuzu needs alot of work in a few areas if he is to reach his potential.

Hope Yuzu works like a dog to improve his SS as well as his strength and stamina.

Good for Orser and the rest of the team at Cricket Club for knowing what it takes to build a champion in today's skating world.

 

[let`s talk]

I think even casual fans can see despite his incredible talent Yuzu needs alot of work in a few areas if he is to reach his potential.

Hope Yuzu works like a dog to improve his SS as well as his strength and stamina.

Good for Orser and the rest of the team at Cricket Club for knowing what it takes to build a champion in today's skating world.

Pardon my dear but you sound defensive. "Casual fans" are not that dumb as you portrait them and Orser is not the only one who has an expertise on building champions. Actually I am grateful to Tommmy that he/she posted these two gifs: "And his 4T-3A sequences from The Ice 2011, 2012 http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m82ukfva6V1rqqvu8o1_r2_250.gif http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m82ukfva6V1rqqvu8o2_250.gif " because it gave me one extra chance to compare. It's really difficult to judge by just a 4T/3A seq that takes such a short time. Still. It's not exactly the same boy out there. Youtube links to make it more visible: 2011- www.youtube.com/watch?v=wICH1Jpsq8M and 2012 (at around 2.44) www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEzHYfHg1lA Look at the entrance on the first video: wide, with big strokes, royal back, light jumps. And then the gorgeous exit, with the hands and head as if he is a noble teen-eagle who is ready to soar to the height of the sky. Each detail is in music and on good speed. And the second video- I don't even want to describe it. Especially his face expression at the end. :sarcasm:

 

[janetfan]

Pardon my dear but you sound defensive. "Casual fans" are not that dumb as you portrait them and Orser is not the only one who has an expertise on building champions. Actually I am grateful to Tommmy that he/she posted these two gifs: "And his 4T-3A sequences from The Ice 2011, 2012 http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m82ukfva6V1rqqvu8o1_r2_250.gif http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m82ukfva6V1rqqvu8o2_250.gif " because it gave me one extra chance to compare. It's really difficult to judge by just a 4T/3A seq that takes such a short time. Still. It's not exactly the same boy out there. Youtube links to make it more visible: 2011- www.youtube.com/watch?v=wICH1Jpsq8M and 2012 (at around 2.44) www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEzHYfHg1lA Look at the entrance on the first video: wide, with big strokes, royal back, light jumps. And then the gorgeous exit, with the hands and head as if he is a noble teen-eagle who is ready to soar to the height of the sky. Each detail is in music and on good speed. And the second video- I don't even want to describe it. Especially his face expression at the end. :sarcasm:

Two words for you......Patrick Chan.

He has set the bar extremely high.

Orser knows this and knows Yuzu must improve in an area that the CoP rewards so highly.
We have all seen Patrick fall not just on jumps but on footwork and still get amazing scores.

Yuzu needs to get in the game. I think he is a prodigious talent and still young enough to to develope his skating.

Plush could come out and land a couple of quads and not even make the podium in today's scoring system.

It is not "ice-jumping" today but CoP skating.

 

[Bluebonnet]

I think even casual fans can see despite his incredible talent Yuzu needs alot of work in a few areas if he is to reach his potential.

I'm with you on this one.

Pardon my dear but you sound defensive. "Casual fans" are not that dumb as you portrait them and Orser is not the only one who has an expertise on building champions.

If Orser really said that Hanyu needs improvement on SS, I think Orser is right on.:yes: To Hanyu fans, I don't think you know more than Brian Orser does, sorry to say! Even if Orser didn't say anything about Hanyu's SS, I've in fact already compared his SS with the top skaters' SS before if you remember. What I've found out was his bumpy turns and glides. Yes, he needs to work on SS in order to compete with the world number one. Your darling Yuzuru is amazing, but he needs some serious makeover, you know. Yuzuru knows, and Orser knows.

 

[Li'Kitsu]

Really, as if anyone ever said Hanyu wouldn't need to improve anymore - of course he does, everyone does.
He's 17 years old, who was complete at that age? Or who ever will be... and pretty much everyone, except some few skaters, should continue to improve with their SS.
What makes this laughable - if it is even true - is that Orser suppossedly said he'd deny Hanyu the world championships. The same Orser that trains Javier - I like Javi a lot, but his SS are far from being better than Hanyus. More the other way around.

Besides that, I'd be happy if Orser would focus on SS with Hanyu, although his stamina should be more important - he's already got some pretty monstrous jumps and his spins are great. So that's one of those areas where I think he could still improve pretty well and get even higher scores out of

 

[janetfan]

Really, as if anyone ever said Hanyu wouldn't need to improve anymore - of course he does, everyone does.
He's 17 years old, who was complete at that age? Or who ever will be... and pretty much everyone, except some few skaters, should continue to improve with their SS.
What makes this laughable - if it is even true - is that Orser suppossedly said he'd deny Hanyu the world championships. The same Orser that trains Javier - I like Javi a lot, but his SS are far from being better than Hanyus. More the other way around.

Besides that, I'd be happy if Orser would focus on SS with Hanyu, although his stamina should be more important - he's already got some pretty monstrous jumps and his spins are great. So that's one of those areas where I think he could still improve pretty well and get even higher scores out of

I really have no idea what you or Let's talk are trying to say here.

Orser sees a young skater with potential to win WC's and Olympic medals if he just improves what even casual fans can see is a weakness.

This incredibly great young 17 year old boy needs to be stronger, have more stamina and part of what will help him NOT fall apart in his LP's is better stroking. And better stamina.

 

[bestskate8]

Two words for you......Patrick Chan.

He has set the bar extremely high.

Orser knows this and knows Yuzu must improve in an area that the CoP rewards so highly.
We have all seen Patrick fall not just on jumps but on footwork and still get amazing scores.

Yuzu needs to get in the game. I think he is a prodigious talent and still young enough to to develope his skating.

Plush could come out and land a couple of quads and not even make the podium in today's scoring system.

It is not "ice-jumping" today but CoP skating.

On his last competition he claimed the gold, and it was only 7 month ago.

None of the younger skaters has the maturity that Plushenko shows in his skating, every move is polished, finished and perfect and it took him years to be fine skater as he is right now.

I don’t understand what Yuzuru or any other skater has better then Plushenko, to move him of the podium.
Yuzuru is young talented skater, and if anyone compare him to Plushenko, they should compare to Plushenko 16-17 years of age, because by 18 he was already much better then Yuzuru now. See Plushenko win gold at Worlds 2001.

 

[Bluebonnet]

What makes this laughable - if it is even true - is that Orser suppossedly said he'd deny Hanyu the world championships.

I've ignored the rest of that twitter message. They are not confirmed yet. It's like baseless rumor so far. No doubt that Orser is a great coach.

 

[doctor2014]

I really have no idea what you or Let's talk are trying to say here.

Orser sees a young skater with potential to win WC's and Olympic medals if he just improves what even casual fans can see is a weakness.

This incredibly great young 17 year old boy needs to be stronger, have more stamina and part of what will help him NOT fall apart in his LP's is better stroking. And better stamina.

As you can see, Hanyu’s biggest problem is lack of stamina. All of his fans have hoped Orser could fix this problem, but Orser did not mention what he would do to fix this biggest problem. Hanyu’s SS of course is not as good as Patrick’s yet and he should improve on it. Even Patrick who already has best skating skills is still working on it and each year he improves, which is why I admire Patrick.

But I can understand Let’s talk and Li'Kitsu’s anger because Hanyu’s skating skills, though not as good as Patrick’s, is already much better than Orser’s other students. Javier, Christina Gao, Elene, and Rippon have much worse SS than Hanyu. They need more work on skating skills than Hanyu.

People are worried because a) why Orser did not say Javier, Christina, Rippon, etc. should improve their skating skills and even skip worlds? b) why Orser did not mention what he would do to fix Hanyu’s stamina? Better stroking would only partially help, but in order to fix the stamina problem, Orser needs to do much more. Anc c) even if Orser wants to help Hanyu improve on his SS, which is a good thing, does Orser have the ability to do so? Orser has not improved SS of his other students after all this time. It makes people wonder if Orser really knows how to do this.

 

[Blades of Passion]

I don’t understand what Yuzuru or any other skater has better then Plushenko, to move him of the podium.
Yuzuru is young talented skater, and if anyone compare him to Plushenko, they should compare to Plushenko 16-17 years of age, because by 18 he was already much better then Yuzuru now. See Plushenko win gold at Worlds 2001.

Plushenko at 17 years of age was 4th at 2000 Worlds, FYI.

Really, though, Hanyu at 17 is still better than Plushenko was at 18. It doesn't matter that Plushenko won 2001 Worlds, it's an empty comparison. If you compare the actual performance of Plushenko at 2001 Worlds to Hanyu at 2012 Worlds, Hanyu is superior in all of the non-jump technical areas and has far more going on in the program (and he's very nearly as good in the jumps) and he's certainly just as good with the performance/interpretation (I would say better).

Plushenko these days has regressed in his jump capability and he's now a bit weaker than Hanyu in that area. His spins and field moves are definitely weaker. His footwork is equal at best. Maybe he has more "maturity", but I frankly don't think his overall presentation is significantly better at all.

 

[emdee]

It is not Orser who teaches skating skills its Tracy Wilson and they work in tandem.

How do you know what Orser told his other students - each student will have their own goals developed together with Orser.

I see a remarkable improvement in Javier's SS since going to Orser but granted he has a way to go. His endurance has improved quite a bit.
Some skaters do not have the patience to realize how important SS are. The cart before the horse doesnt work in the end.

I think Rippons SS are quite decent certainly better than Hanyu and Javier.

While Hanyu is a brilliant young skater he needs to improve his SS and endurance and this will take time. The short term Sochi over the long term does not make sense and the JSF likely sees it. Unfortunately the Hanyu lovers do not see it.

If Hanyu does not separate himself from the rest of the pack in Japan and its a very excellent pack as well, he will find himself left behind.

All this crying and pooh holding may endear him to his younger audience but that will not get him the OGM either at Sochi or the following Olys.

 

[doctor2014]

While Hanyu is a brilliant young skater he needs to improve his SS and endurance and this will take time. The short term Sochi over the long term does not make sense and the JSF likely sees it. Unfortunately the Hanyu lovers do not see it.

If Hanyu does not separate himself from the rest of the pack in Japan and its a very excellent pack as well, he will find himself left behind.

All this crying and pooh holding may endear him to his younger audience but that will not get him the OGM either at Sochi or the following Olys.

I remember you’re a hardcore fan of Patrick and you’ve attacked Daisuke before. I hope you posted all the above out of kindness. I like Patrick, Hanyu, Daisuke, Plushy, and Jeremy. I don’t like to see their fans undermining any of their competitors.

Your post seems like you’re happy if Hanyu skips next Worlds and even Sochi Olys. I hope you did not post that because you’re Patrick’s fan and you like to see his competitor being held back.

I think Rippons SS are quite decent certainly better than Hanyu and Javier.

Is this a joke? Even though many people say Javier has weak skating skills, at least he’s a little better than Rippon. Rippon is the one who needs a lot of work on his SS. OMG, he’s sooo slow. In fact, if Rippon and Javier by the end of their career will have the current skating skills of Machida and Mura, then I’ll admire the hard works of their coaches. I doubt if Rippon and Javier will ever attain the skating skills of Hanyu at 17 years of age.