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The Judging Controversy Thread

Yes, that may not have been my shining moment. But putting words in someone's mouth to make up a better story? Yeah, um, not the best strategy either.

I see that English is not your first language, so I'm going to be gentle. "Without rhyme or reason" doesn't need to apply only to language-based works, it simply means something nonsensical - like making up stories about who said what to bolster your own arguments.

I don't have an opinion on the blog entry, but I do think it's disrespectful to insult another country's cuisine to get your point across. Korean BBQ may be nonsensical to you, but plenty of people see the logic and enjoy it greatly.
 
An interesting account of what happened backstage after Yuna skated. Tarasova also stated that the judges didn't like Yuna's dress.

It is nice to see yet more confirmation of the level of desperation it took to dig up reasons to justify to themselves the farcial fixed outcome they were putting down on their scorecard. :laugh: Anytime Alla is on a panel though the judges do what she wants. Ex ISU judge Jean Senft has mentioned how she goes so far as to physically threaten them if they do not. The only time she was on a panel and a Russian or her favorite did not win was the ice dance event at the SLC Olympics; and the judges who didnt were quite lucky if they escaped physically unharmed as according to Canadian skating writer Beverly Smith she ripped them a new one backstage. The fact she that desperately wanted to bully the others to crowing the horrific Lobacheva & Averbuhk as Olympic Champions shows she has absolutely no shame, conscience, or sense of moral whatsoever, as she yet again showed in Sochi.
 
I don't have an opinion on the blog entry, but I do think it's disrespectful to insult another country's cuisine to get your point across. Korean BBQ may be nonsensical to you, but plenty of people see the logic and enjoy it greatly.
I am going to go back and replace "Korean bbq" with a "Korean concoction." That would take it out of the food realm and underscore the made-up nature of the story. Trust that takes cares of it.
 
It is nice to see yet more confirmation of the level of desperation it took to dig up reasons to justify to themselves the farcial fixed outcome they were putting down on their scorecard. :laugh: Anytime Alla is on a panel though the judges do what she wants. Ex ISU judge Jean Senft has mentioned how she goes so far as to physically threaten them if they do not. The only time she was on a panel and a Russian or her favorite did not win was the ice dance event at the SLC Olympics; and the judges who didnt were quite lucky if they escaped physically unharmed as according to Canadian skating writer Beverly Smith she ripped them a new one backstage. The fact she that desperately wanted to bully the others to crowing the horrific Lobacheva & Averbuhk as Olympic Champions shows she has absolutely no shame, conscience, or sense of moral whatsoever, as she yet again showed in Sochi.
Source?
 
No need to worry about such old fashioned expression. I think I've heard my grandma saying that once in my life. She's 89.

As to that article, it is indeed empty although it does not surprise me that Tarasova has something negative to say about Yuna. That one thing she could fault Yuna for was her dress is telling.
Call things by their true names. It's not "empty." It's a lie the author made up to bolster their point. Can we get this straight? Made up. Put their words into someone else's mouth. Made up of lies.

And no, the dress it not the only thing. Tarasova also didn't think much of her spins. I do think she is in much company on that account.
 
It is nice to see yet more confirmation of the level of desperation it took to dig up reasons to justify to themselves the farcial fixed outcome they were putting down on their scorecard. :laugh: Anytime Alla is on a panel though the judges do what she wants. Ex ISU judge Jean Senft has mentioned how she goes so far as to physically threaten them if they do not. The only time she was on a panel and a Russian or her favorite did not win was the ice dance event at the SLC Olympics; and the judges who didnt were quite lucky if they escaped physically unharmed as according to Canadian skating writer Beverly Smith she ripped them a new one backstage. The fact she that desperately wanted to bully the others to crowing the horrific Lobacheva & Averbuhk as Olympic Champions shows she has absolutely no shame, conscience, or sense of moral whatsoever, as she yet again showed in Sochi.

What's the source? Any links to this story?

Besides, congratulations everyone: page 200, we did it :rofl::rofl:
 
We have a new star here. Evidently woken up from a decade of hibernation in order to celebrate the 200th page of this thread. Scarily hungry, too. (understandably) I shall take a brief break for I fear for my safety.
 

And what is Alla and Yuri's reasoning for awarding Adelina with 3's. Where's the source on that? It must have been the home cooking. It's pathetic that a federation went so far as to do their home cooking to bring home the bacon. So many food analogies tonight.
 
We have a new star here. Evidently woken up from a decade of hibernation in order to celebrate the 200th page of this thread. Scarily hungry, too. (understandably) I shall take a brief break for I fear for my safety.
My dear. My star has been shining for the last ten years. I don't know where you've been before Feb 2014. Making up stories?
 
What's the source? Any links to this story?

Besides, congratulations everyone: page 200, we did it :rofl::rofl:

The judging is anonymous, the IOC printed fake quotes allegedly from Yuna, does transparency, fairness and sourcing matter anymore? Are we going back in ethics? Are we in the 1800's again? Or is it just figure skating?
 
And what is Alla and Yuri's reasoning for awarding Adelina with 3's. Where's the source on that? It must have been the home cooking. It's pathetic that a federation went so far as to do their home cooking to bring home the bacon. So many food analogies tonight.
So there's no source?
 
The judging is anonymous, the IOC printed fake quotes allegedly from Yuna, does transparency, fairness and sourcing matter anymore? Are we going back in ethics? Are we in the 1800's again? Or is it just figure skating?

According to what I've heard from elder members of this forum, it's just figure skating. So, the source matters! :)
 
Yes there is a source. It's in the Swiss bank where the anonymous scores are kept just kidding. There was an interview with Tarasova out there that someone translated into English. Do you still believe that Adelina should have won? I don't speak Russian so maybe the translation I got from the other person wasn't accurate. http://www.sovsport.ru/sochi/texts/text-item/687629
That interview doesn't mention Shehovtsova or Senft and there is no account of anyone threatening anyone physically. It simply relates Tarasova's opinion on why she thinks Adelina won.

That's why people are asking: what is the source of the story pangtonfan posted?
 
http://www.sovsport.ru/sochi/texts/text-item/687629

Tatyana Tarasova, the adviser of modular Russia, the couch of eleven Olympic champions, in exclusive interview answers « the Soviet sports » accusations from the western mass-media in biassed refereeing in the female any program on Olympiad. « We LONG SUFFERED » – Tatyana Anatolevna, the newspaper «Экип», and after it Катарина Витт and Курт the Browning would name refereeing скандальным.–On seat of the Frenchmen I has kept silent. I never shall forget "feats" of French of the judge on Olympiad in Salt Lake City when the person was simply in an inadequate condition... As to all others we long suffered. And now – I'm sorry . the Program Kim is made on old samples. Any связок between прыжковыми elements was not, on eight-ten dashes... There Were very well executed jumps, but there was no cascade in second half–акселя – a sheepskin coat or сальхова – a sheepskin coat from threefold jumps. One it коронное rotation has decorated the program. One! All can be noted other rotations only a tick. To put them basically it is impossible. Therefore here this part of new figure skating – it has failed. And it needs to be seen. The program consists not only of a path of steps which on a circle is done... It consists still from связок which go as the approach to each element. At Аделины jumps were fine, there was a cascade in second half, all of them have been executed correctly. Yes, when it jumped the cascade флип – a sheepskin coat – лутц, it has struck a leg.

– But it also has received for it a minus 0,9. That's all! Carolina Costner went for a drive in the protruding image, but it has not jumped complex cascades. I consider, that Kim it was possible to compare only to Carolina. And with Аделиной and to compare it is impossible. You look, what at Аделины complex approaches and outputs from jumps is a huge work! Аделина and on components should win significantly at Kim, and Kim also for components hardly distances more – and it should not be! I would put it less. At Kim there were no components so high, as at Сотниковой. At Аделины there was no simple approach to a jump, all of them went through elements, through three, hooks, выкрюки ... Why such noise in the West has risen? Irritate our victories? – irritate. At Kim even the dress was from other time... I understand, the judge simply stroke, the small detail speaking a detail nevertheless do not estimate a dress, but it. Suits too have a little bit changed! Interpretation of music at all has not liked me in the short program, ut it and there has received the high components estimating on idea communication of movements with music – the concept of the program was not any! At Аделины there was a magnificent short program, "Carmen", jumps very tall, huge. Rotations... I cannot compare and their rotations – they are not a subject to comparison! At Kim as I already mentioned, is one rotation deserving excellent epithets, – its old rotation where it turns a body. « ВОДОРЕЗОВА DID NOT CLIMB down AT ALL From ITS JUMPS » – you have communicated already with Аделиной? What does it speak? – only one minute. Yesterday. I have gone down to it for one minute from the комментаторской positions. Well, what speaks? It and speaks still plainly could not. Except for happiness and pleasure, anything at it now нет.–When I tried to ask this question to Alexander Gorshkovu, it has not wished to answer, has solved, that I try to sadden pleasure of a victory, most likely... But all the same it is interesting to me. In fact Аделина always was such... Enough rough.

But all the same it is interesting to me. In fact Аделина always was such... There is enough неровной.–And I shall answer. Huge trainer's work has been lead – Водорезовой, Irina Tagaevoj and Petya Tchernyshov. I thus was present, but a little bit in сторонке stood, I did not wish to impede it because all of them very well, properly did. Work on slipping, on связкам, by the second assessment. Водорезова did not climb down at all from jumps, it has achieved, that Аделина all jumped! And флип with a sheepskin coat, and a sheepskin coat – a sheepskin coat, and лутц – a sheepskin coat. It still jumps on trainings лутц – риттбергер, it will jump it for certain in following year. Аделина has passed very heavy period of development. The body became quite different. It has grown, was issued, and from the point of view of driving couches thus have not missed anything! I am very glad, that Petya Tchernyshov so has worked with programs, I offered them this music, but itself almost did not put the program. And programs have turned out not similar to anybody! The new direction is perfect ... Tatyana Anatolevna, explain to us, please, this image in the any program. From "Carmen" all is transparent and is available. And that Аделина shows with « the Rondo каприччиозо » is much more difficultly for understanding.

– It shows, how people between classics and modern dance are broken off. That all goes in general from classics, but in a shower there is a break, and one half of person reaches for classical art, another is already grasped пластикой new time. As two different directions get on in the person as it tries to combine them, and in the end is found out: the happiness, appears, another is possible both that, and... The New life joins in старую.–to you very good phrase belongs: « the Olympic champion is visible at once ». You also have seen Olympic чемпионку in Sochi? And her was Аделина? – Under the short program it was visible. It was visible on trainings. Аделину have not put in the command which has gained gold medals, and it it have very much offended. But its this situation also has tightened. The desire was terrible! Its tears have made it more strongly. Also it is very good sign, understand, very good sign. When the girl does not break in a difficult situation, and rises. « To GOOD PEOPLE VERY SELDOM CARRIES » – Аделина told, that it completely from all was released. Including for this insult.

And should be! The person should be concentrated to itself, differently you cannot reach this objective. In general on Olympic Games never was unfair refereeing. Here again it is absolutely fair. Аделина – the wonderful girl. It the girl careful. It never will pass, if something at you is bad, it is ready to come always to the aid. They together with Maxim Kovtun train, but a little bit at various times. Its parents if it is necessary, will call in on it, it will remind Maxim if it will forget about something. Know, it can be put to sore points... It very strong, in something weak, very different. But it very good person, and to good people very seldom carries...
 
What did you hope to accomplish by posting this? Other than demonstrate your keen knowledge of google translate?

I think you should use this line as your signature. It goes nicely with your cluelessness:

"And флип with a sheepskin coat, and a sheepskin coat – a sheepskin coat, and лутц – a sheepskin coat."
 
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