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Yuzuru Hanyu: 2013-14 Season

It is not good for his health. And I think he did get some injury on his back and/or waist at the WC although he did not say anything. I do enjoy watching him doing Biellmann but I guess I will enjoy more if he can stay away from injury and skate for a longer time.

Yeah, but we know that he's the kind of skater who does not play safe when it comes to his programs.

Anyway, do you guys know of links to the group performances in SOI or Osaka Exhibition?
 
I have a question, anyone knows who is the female commentator of NBC at Nice WC in 2012? Was watching the R&J 1.0 and really like her.

It's Tracy Wilson, now one of Yuzuru's coaches at TCC, whose most quotable quote about Yuzuru is that his jumps are sensational while his falls are spectacular (same observation by Kurt in the CBC commentary of 2012 Worlds; as they're both Canadians, I wonder whether they compared notes).

She also did the CBC commentary in the 2011 4CC where Yuzuru placed second in his second year of senior competition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAbWxK8AG-A
There she was critiquing that his skating skills needed improvement ("the blade does not run quite as freely") and then interrupted herself with a "Woah!" when Yuzuru launched into his 3A-3T. Brian Orser credits Tracy's hours of work with Yuzuru for improving Yuzuru' s speed and flow across the ice, which goes to show that even prodigious talent can stand improvement, a lesson for lesser mortals like us. ;)

Maria Victoria, thank you so much, I'm so happy you like it! Thank you!


@Pamina: Yeah, sadly it can't be seen in Germany via YouTube. But you can see it here: http://www.trilulilu.ro/hall-of-fame-yuzuru-hanyu-new-version )

Welcome Ana, and I hope to see more of your lovely work in the future.

Pamina, I commiserate. :(
 
I have a question, anyone knows who is the female commentator of NBC at Nice WC in 2012? Was watching the R&J 1.0 and really like her.

I think it's Tracy Wilson. She also helps coach Yuzuru at the Toronto cricket club. Interesting really, there she was just commentating Yuzuru's performance and showing such admiration for him and his skating. I bet she never saw it coming that in the next couple of months she would be working with such a young talent.
 
Well, Denis Ten was trained by Tarasova so of course he has better posture than most skaters out there.:) not to mention his current coach is Frank Carroll.

The thing is, Yuzuru is the opposite of Denis Ten, who is very composed and calculated in all his moves. Yuzuru is very wild and emotional, even with all the training with Brian Orser these recent years. I have to say, he is an instinctive skater

I don't think Denis is composed at all. Very frequently he is not constant and when he has a major mistake, I expect many others to come during the performance. Maybe it's only my opinion, but Denis doesn't have that fighter attitude Yuzu has. If you cut the 4T fall from the SP WC2014, the program is perfect. The same at the FS GPF with the 4S. At Denis, usually, you can't just cut the part with the falls. When he has mistakes, his interpretation suffers from this too.
On the other side, when he is clean, I see him as the most elegant skater in the world +with the best interpretation. (:slink:) He's moves are very natural and ..he lives the programs (maybe the choreography helps too ;) ) Just remember his passionate exhibition program from Sochi. A pleasure to watch the boy.
 
I guess we won't be able to know that till the end of may

If I remember correctly top skaters got the right to choose. Ny example Meryl and Charlie always choose Skate America and a later GP to have time to improeve their programs.

Some Federation choose to keep their top skaters in hom GP (nhk in Yuzur´s case) and their younger ones to give them a home advantage.
 
Question: Besides Russian choreographers and David Wilson, who else out there is a good choreographer? (I'm still new with this sport so I have no idea who's good or not)
 
I think it's Tracy Wilson. She also helps coach Yuzuru at the Toronto cricket club. Interesting really, there she was just commentating Yuzuru's performance and showing such admiration for him and his skating. I bet she never saw it coming that in the next couple of months she would be working with such a young talent.

Wow thanks! Somehow it makes me feel the destiny
 
If I remember correctly top skaters got the right to choose. Ny example Meryl and Charlie always choose Skate America and a later GP to have time to improeve their programs.

Some Federation choose to keep their top skaters in hom GP (nhk in Yuzur´s case) and their younger ones to give them a home advantage.

I heard that there are some rules like the medalists have to avoid each other ( not sure which one counts, GPF , OG or WC). Hope someone familiar with the rules can clarify. And also, Orser might try to keep yuzu and javi separated as much as possible to give both more chances to win in GP series. So I guess many strategies here.
 
I heard that there are some rules like the medalists have to avoid each other ( not sure which one counts, GPF , OG or WC). Hope someone familiar with the rules can clarify. And also, Orser might try to keep yuzu and javi separated as much as possible to give both more chances to win in GP series. So I guess many strategies here.
the 1-2-3 and 4-5-6 at Worlds cannot be at the same GP event - meaning, Yuzu, Javi, and Tasuki cannot be at the same event (I think there's an exception for home countries - like JSF can get both Yuzu and Tatsuki at NHK if they wanted to, but someone will have to check me on that). This was the reason why Yuzu was able to compete against Patrick for both his GP events for the 13-14 season; he placed 4th at Worlds in 2013 and as a result really got the competitive push he needed from directly competing against Patrick, especially at TEB and witnessing Patrick perform his two greatest skates ever.
 
Question: Besides Russian choreographers and David Wilson, who else out there is a good choreographer? (I'm still new with this sport so I have no idea who's good or not)

I'll answer based on the programs I have liked and which worked well for the skaters involved.

Akiko Suzuki's "O" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOuaUMgFOcg) and Daisuke Takahashi's "Blues for Klook" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REw4lqL3w9I) were choreographed by Pasquale Carmerlengo who has expressed an interest to choreograph for Yuzuru when Yuzuru was not yet the big star that he is right now. I agree with Nimi that it will be interesting to have Rohene Ward (choreographer of Jason Brown's "Riverdance," http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzlcVKFVWVI) work with Yuzuru. Then there's Phillip Mills who choreographed Tatsuki's stunning "East of Eden" SP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaYfPjBgj5c) at the 2014 Worlds. Not to forget of course Jeffrey Buttle who choreographed Yuzuru's PW.
 
the 1-2-3 and 4-5-6 at Worlds cannot be at the same GP event - meaning, Yuzu, Javi, and Tasuki cannot be at the same event (I think there's an exception for home countries - like JSF can get both Yuzu and Tatsuki at NHK if they wanted to, but someone will have to check me on that). This was the reason why Yuzu was able to compete against Patrick for both his GP events for the 13-14 season; he placed 4th at Worlds in 2013 and as a result really got the competitive push he needed from directly competing against Patrick, especially at TEB and witnessing Patrick perform his two greatest skates ever.

Ah.. So, if Patrick Chan will still compete this coming season, then he and Yuzuru can compete against each other in any competition because Patrick did not compete in Worlds 2014?
 
I want to see Yuzuru skate more programs choreographed by Jeffrey Buttle! I loved his Parisian Walkways SP so much!!!

Yes, Yuzuru really turned on the charm there. :) Jeffrey btw also choreographed Patrick Chan's SP "Elegie" which traded world records with PW, which shows Jeffrey's versatility as a choreographer.
 
I don't think Denis is composed at all. Very frequently he is not constant and when he has a major mistake, I expect many others to come during the performance. Maybe it's only my opinion, but Denis doesn't have that fighter attitude Yuzu has. If you cut the 4T fall from the SP WC2014, the program is perfect. The same at the FS GPF with the 4S. At Denis, usually, you can't just cut the part with the falls. When he has mistakes, his interpretation suffers from this too.
On the other side, when he is clean, I see him as the most elegant skater in the world +with the best interpretation. (:slink:) He's moves are very natural and ..he lives the programs (maybe the choreography helps too ;) ) Just remember his passionate exhibition program from Sochi. A pleasure to watch the boy.
I don't know who you are talking about. The kid or Denis Ten? I guess it's Yuzuru, then.

Anyways, anyways I said Denis Ten was "composed", I meant to say his style, not his mentality. Denis Ten is very composed in his moves and jumps, result from a good training foundation of basic skills. I mean you can see the way Denis moves, spins or text off to the jumps...it's pretty much detailed and articulate when he is on, and it looks like textbook position because he has strong foundation. Yuzuru can learn these things, he can learn to have better moves and articulate positions like Denis Ten. But when will come that time I am not sure.

On the other hand, I bet no one could apply Yuzuru's moves to their own skating because the kid's style and techniques are built-in, it comes from the inside so it's impossible to teach. I guess that is what set Yuzuru apart from everyone esle, even though he lacks some foundation and basic skills to creat good lines and postures.

Even though I dislike R&J 2.0, I have to say I start to feel a sense of flow form his performance at worlds, a sign showing that he started to make the program his own. I hope he will have better training in basic skills. Ballet is a must if he wants to stop all the critique about postures.

I am strongly against all the ice shows recently and the craziness form Japanese media. I hope Yuzuru will finish all the ceremonies and ice shows as soon as possible and come back to Canada. JFS should know that he still have at least 6 seasons ahead? If he can maintain his health, he could even make it to 10 seasons on top and I hope to see that happen. He need times to train, not to make money for the JFS. They need to "wrap him up in cotton wool" like British commentators said. What JFS is doing now is nowhere near that. :unsure:

Of course he wants to do show because he is still young and passionate, but seriously I think people in Japan are asking too much. He looks so tired in Osaka Ex. I hope he will get enough time for ballet and new program, because now he has to practice 2 new program for next season.
 
Yes, Yuzuru really turned on the charm there. :) Jeffrey btw also choreographed Patrick Chan's SP "Elegie" which traded world records with PW, which shows Jeffrey's versatility as a choreographer.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but did Jeffrey also choreoraphed the group numbers in the whole Stars on Ice Tour?
 
I am strongly against all the ice shows recently and the craziness form Japanese media. I hope he will finish all the ceremonies and ice shows as soon as possible and come back to Canada. JFS should know that he still have at lease 6 season ahead? If he can maintain his health, he could even make it to 10 seasons. He need times to train, not to make money for the JFS. Of course he wants to do show because he is still young, but seriously I think people are asking too much. He looks so tired in Osaka Ex. I hope he will get enough time for ballet and new program, because now he has to practice 2 new program for next season.

I agree that really looks exhausted in Osaka Ex... The thing that confuses me is that whether Brian Orser agreed to let Yuzuru's schedule to be as hectic as it is, given that he has to prepare for the next season. I know that JSF is the governing body of figure skating in Japan, but as his coach, Orser also probably has some weighty opinion on Yuzu's "off-season" activities.
 
I agree that really looks exhausted in Osaka Ex... The thing that confuses me is that whether Brian Orser agreed to let Yuzuru's schedule to be as hectic as it is, given that he has to prepare for the next season. I know that JSF is the governing body of figure skating in Japan, but as his coach, Orser also probably has some weighty opinion on Yuzu's "off-season" activities.

Orser can't stop this either, I think. This is all about sponsors behind JSF. Mao and Daisuke used to do these things before, now it's Yuzu's turn. I'm afraid he has no rights to reject. I always feel sorry to Japanese top skaters for having so much 'JSF' pressures.
 
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