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the flower wasn't packed fully.. the top.. NOT AT ALL...
so they should give it to Mao directly....through her pp or someone...
so they should give it to Mao directly....through her pp or someone...
Thanks for joining us, ilunga1965, and welcome.
P.S. Your English is outstanding! :agree:
the flower wasn't packed fully.. the top.. NOT AT ALL...
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sunflowers incident was funny cause thelittle boy who tried to carry them was smaller than the flowers And he was dropping stuff! But he got a big applause from audience
But it was thrown on the whole other diagonal side of the rink and not where yuna didnt try her jump!Both Yuna and Mao have great audience by the way, I learnt some japanese words
Come on guy~ do you think ppl would wrap thoroughly the bunches of flowers?? or would you give that bunch of flowers to your gf? How weird is that
but I think they will pay attention to this next time
Anyway, let's stop this flower-event here, OK? It is NOT that serious since judges had be aware of it.
For me, just curious about your persist in this event, really different from my Aussie fds, no intention to offend
My thoughts exactly. You said it much better than I could. It's very sad about Mao. Imagine how she must feel struggling and scoring as she does now, with all that natural talent.Ptolemy, that's a scary thought you've brought up about ladies' coaching in Japan. I don't know whether this fact is related to your idea, but interestingly, two of the only "wrapped leg" jumpers to become world or GP medalists have come from Japan: Nakano and the great Midori Ito. (The only other world-class skater with that fault that I recall was one of the Claudias from West Germany: I think it was Claudia Kristofics-Binder.) Maybe it's not a coincidence that those three Japanese ladies, Ito, Nakano, and Asada, all have a triple axel. This seems to reinforce your theory that the Japanese skating program looks for ladies with natural jumping talent, and that some (not all) of their coaches don't force them into the prescribed form. If your idea is correct, Ptolemy, it doesn't bode well for Mao. That's really too bad, because she's phenomenal and it would be nice to have her among the contenders for the OGM.
Isn't it funny: if you just looked at statistics, you'd expect YuNa to be the undisciplined raw talent and Asada to be the technically meticulous one. Here's YuNa, from a country with absolutely no skating tradition and no coaching program--what's more, her coach, Orser, has no previous history of champions that I can recall. On the other hand, there's Asada, from a country that's a huge skating power, especially in ladies' singles, with a bunch of world champions (Ito, Yuka Sato, Ando, Asada), several experienced coaches, and presumably a national skating federation with a strong interest in training young skaters up to standard. And her current coach, Tarasova, has one of the most impressive records of Olympic wins in history! It makes the achievements of Orser and Kim even more impressive when you consider this comparison.
I think you are exactly right. There are many examples of kids fathers coaching them from books. Don't we always do better when we don't know and try to learn than when we think we know only to find out we didn't.As for the jumping techniqe, I do find it nothing short of miraculous how Yuna has come so far with no huge glaring weaknesses in her technique, considering how Orser only became her full-time coach in March 2007 - her jumps, as many have remarked, are textbook, and while her spins and spirals could all use some honing they're all decent at the very least.My theory as to what might have happened is that Yuna's Korean coaches, having no local precedents to go by, taught her only what they could, which was what was textbook, and Yuna's natural talent helped her along the way.
Well thought out and insightful post. I agree, I wish Mao would forget about Yu Na and skate for Mao. Her gala programs are the best.I wasn't even thrilled about this comp cuz.. I knew Yuna was gonna win after her short...
She is too perfect to be bitten ....
I hope other skaters practice more and more... otherwise.. I want ISU people send Kim to Man's comp... she would get at least bronze medal or something in even man's..
I didn't like the Kim's music.. because I compared them with her's in last season. But I realised that compared to others it's actually good. so It's all fine now...
Um.. some people didn't understand about the really high record score that Yuna got even without TF in her LP...
um.. well.. watch her video again...
the first reason is of course her perfect jumps... the use of edges, air positions and landing positions.. (I haven't seen such a perfect jump in lady's comp.. it's more than perfect actually I should say...)
and I noticed that in this season Yuna got more + cuz of other thing..
Did u notice that Yuna's skating speed was little bit slower before her jumps compare to last season?
That's because of the unique steps before her jumps and after jumps..
It's really hard to put steps or movements before or after jumps.. especially before.. cuz it could lower the speed and change the direction of skating flow.
But Yuna did it .. although normal pp (including me) were not interested in the steps before jumps... so pp could wonder that y she got record scores... but I think she deserves it. I do really.. her skating is more than skating .. that's y I love her.
I'm worrying about me having really high expectations in her skating...lol
Mao.... I loved hers.. was greater than last season actually..
I hated her coach cuz I thought she made her do 1 TA in short and 2 in her LP.
But I found out that the reason that she's doing TA's in her programs was because she wanted to....
I really don't agree with her choice..... I think that choice has been made to win Yuna Kim... But .. y does Mao hav to skate to win Yuna....
u no wat? I'm telling u .. even if Mao can't win Yuna.. that's fine. I'll still love her skatings and many people will still love her skating..
I'm sorry for Mao that it's really hard to bit Yuna...
But it doesn't matter. I do love her skating .... Mao's own skating.. but these days TA is ruining her own skating.... someone should tell her that just skate her own skating..like she did few yrs ago..
her fans doesn't care wether she's in 3rd or 4th or 5th. As long as she is showing her own skating.. we will love her.
Now her skatings r only focused on TA to win the comp.. it cuz It's ruining her other beautiful talents.. winning shouldn't be the most important thing for her.
The reason I love Mao is because she has soft skating not about jumps but the beautiful spirals and spins.. the flow of her skatings... Now I'm sad cuz I can't see that..
I think people MUSTN'T throw things to the ice ... Gala shows--- it will be okay..
and I'm very happy that u hav Aussie friend who is interested in figure skating... actually .. u didn't say that clearly so I don't know wether ur friend's interested in skating but I wanna assume that lol.. u no .. in Aus.. I can dare say that .. No one is interested in figure skating ... really ... no one...
Michelle Kwan literally carried the sport, nationally and internationally. She had several rivalries-Lipinski, Slutskaya and Cohen. They were all at the top of their game, with many fans of their own, but the star was Michelle. Her competitors were interesting people in their own right which added to the drama, and the media stoked the rivalries. The cyberspace was buzzing far more than it is now. Fan sites and the media were obsessed with her. Books, newspapers and the internet covered her every move. She had endorsements all over the place. Yu Na Kim and Mao Asada are pale comparisons. Not even close. Michelle had true star power because of her strong and appealing personality, and her ability to engage the audience with beautifully designed programs, which she skated with passion and heart. There is no one on the scene now who comes close and consequently, skating is taking a nose dive, especially in the USA. When Michelle skated, the arenas were packed everywhere she competed. Not anymore.
Oh please, give me a break. Why don't you compare Kwan's endorsements in South Korea and Japan while you at that. Just because Kwan was popular in US does not mean Mao or Kim are not as popular in their own countries.
I agree with oxade21.
Kyla2, I think you're talking from an American perspective and it's safe for you to delete the world "especially" from your claim. In Japan and Korea, the attention Michelle Kwan received in her hedays pales in comparison to what Yuna Kim and Mao Asada is getting today.
Even in the U.S., Michelle was not the prime athlete of her day. She was not even close to athletes like Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods, and received less endorsements than her female contemporaries like Mia Hamm or Marion Jones (regardless of the fact that Marion was performing under the influence of illegal steroids).
Yes, Michelle Kwan was a great skater but it's a stretch to say that her popularity at the time is incomparable to that of Mao and Yuna today in every part of the world.
WoW!
See? The Kween always wins! You thought Mao vs Yu-Na was bad? They ain't got nothing against Michelle! People will forget Asada and Kim when they leave the sport, but Kwan will always live on!!!