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Edwin

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Didn't know that all the kids from the academy, Sasha's mum and her poodle were 'national team members' :biggrin:

Plyushchenko did bring two male trainers with him. With three young female skaters, and some of the boy skaters being still young too, an adult female might be needed to look after the kids, including her own daughter.
Having Mrs Trusova registered into Kislovodsk might be part of the deal. Aleksandra said herself in her latest interview she wants to have her mother around. Everything must feel strange and a little awkward the first week or two, so it's important to settle in comfortably and have some familiar faces near you.

Wether any quarantine or self isolation or social distancing rules are met or broken we don't know. If everybody stays in their confinement zone on the base, eschews contact with strangers, and get themselves tested regularly, it is probably quite safe there.
 

plushyfan

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I do hope that Konstantinova and Trusova spend ice time together, while Konstantinova (and Kolyada who was coached by the same person) has consistency issues, she's a lovely, delicate skater with some really nice artistic qualities - someone that Trusova probably needs to invest in acquiring since relying on the jumps didn't get her any titles last year and her PCS mark needs improvement.

I would like to see that, too. Do you remember when she arrived to the Academy? Plushenko said she will train in Volkov's team. They have arrangement about her as about Kovalyev, probably. Stasya is in their dacha near Pityer it's hard to move from that. And Volkov probably thought another way Kovalyev didn't go, too. If you follow Kovalyev Plushenko helps in his tech as in every pupils' tech ( Ryabova told about it, too) So there is chance to see them together on ice.
 

plushyfan

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That is rather... dramatic. I just don’t understand what you (and others) think is so terrible. From what I understood Sasha will be coached by Rozanov, who has proven himself as an excellent technical specialist. I doubt Plushenko has much to do with the training process.

As it happens, the girl is jumping 3Lz-3Lo on her first day back. :)

Don't be sure. He works and worked in every skater's technic on the Academy( Kovalyev, Ryabova, Titova, Sarnovsky, etc). Look at Kovalyev's profil on IG.

Plushenko said they will change Sasha's technic a little bit if you remember. He didn't say in wich jumps and what is little bit. - it is interesting not the other rubbish about who is with Sasha.
 

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That confirms what I said. With you in the TT, we would see only triples from the girls today.

It would be a pleasure to be responsible for the triples as I don't think I would be able to teach somebody a jump with just a single rotation. If I would be able to teach triples, than you could really say that they do marvels in the TT :biggrin:

Now seriously, I truly don't believe Plushenko as a coach, that's the thing. And even if this won't be directly his personal matter, I am not sure about him as a manager/decision maker as well. Only Rozanov brings some hope, but so far not enough for me. I am prepared to change my mind, maybe some time around the second Sasha's GP entry.
 

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Don't be sure. He works and worked in every skater's technic on the Academy( Kovalyev, Ryabova, Titova, Sarnovsky, etc). Look at Kovalyev's profil on IG.

Plushenko said they will change Sasha's technic a little bit if you remember. He didn't say in wich jumps and what is little bit. - it is interesting not the other rubbish about who is with Sasha.

I think the changes will include:

* Drop quads except may be 4T and 4T-3T
* Improve 3Ax success ratio to 50-55%
* 5 seconds preparations before any difficult jump (already done)
* More hands movement and activity in a way of "wooddolling", like Pluschenko did in his best days - to gain 0.5-1.5 PCS

Resuming: Sasha is going to be 2006th version of Pluschenko himself.
It may even work well if all the concurrents aren't reaching beyond Lambiel-2006.
 

plushyfan

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I think the changes will include:

Are you joking? :p

* Drop quads except may be 4T and 4T-3T -that wouldn't be Sasha. She wants 5 quads if you remember.. Otherwise Plushenko landed in 4S in Samara 2004 at Russian Cup series. And in 4Lz many times at trainings.

* Improve 3Ax success ratio to 50-55% - that is low rate, I believe. Plusheno had almost 100% :agree: :laugh:

* More hands movement and activity in a way of "wooddolling", like Pluschenko did in his best days - to gain 0.5-1.5 PCS - Plushenko's hands are beautiful and ballet-like even today. So that's Ok.

Resuming: Sasha is going to be 2006th version of Pluschenko himself. - I don't think Plushenko wants to increase Sasha's masculinity :laugh:

It may even work well if all the concurrents aren't reaching beyond Lambiel-2006.- Plushenko beat Lambiel with 27 points at Torino OG. So I'm Ok with it if Sasha can win on such way in 2022. ;)
 

Edwin

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Aleksandra has grown again during quarantine (obviously) and her getting the triple Lutz-Rittberger combination back in raw working order is a good sign. Since she has been more idle after breaking up.

Aleksandra is more proficient at jumping ultra-si than Plyushchenko himself was or any of his compatriots during their best days. Times have changed since.

Plyushchenko the training expert already finding faults in Trusova?

He promised us a completely new Trusova, so he first must eradicate any parts left by #TeamTutberidzeForProgress and replace them with his own, better and superior in every aspect of course.

I hope Aleksandra settles in in her new surroundings after an awkward first couple of days. Once back in her usual training rhythm the real work starts and I am sure she is looking forward and will put her best efforts in.
 

Fried

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I think the changes will include:

* Drop quads except may be 4T and 4T-3T
* Improve 3Ax success ratio to 50-55%
* 5 seconds preparations before any difficult jump (already done)
* More hands movement and activity in a way of "wooddolling", like Pluschenko did in his best days - to gain 0.5-1.5 PCS

Resuming: Sasha is going to be 2006th version of Pluschenko himself.
It may even work well if all the concurrents aren't reaching beyond Lambiel-2006.
I have to admit that the more I read comments like this, the more I welcome Sasha's change. It goes so far that I find it delightful to think that the inconsistent, lying traitor among Russia's most devilish and inept coach is terrifying the ballerina and the angel among the best and most successful coach in the universe. On the one hand that's a shame because I also like Anna and Alyona, on the other hand the dream picture of Eteri, who bites the edge protector while she hits the second Daniil on the head, triggers a laughing fit. :laugh2:
 

Edwin

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I have to admit that the more I read comments like this, the more I welcome Sasha's change. It goes so far that I find it delightful to think that the inconsistent, lying traitor among Russia's most devilish and inept coaches is terrifying the ballerina and the angel among the best and most successful coaches in the universe. On the one hand that's a shame because I also like Anna and Alyona, on the other hand the dream picture of Eteri, who bites the edge protector while she hits the second Daniil on the head, triggers a laughing fit. :laugh2:

Oh yes, it will provide for daily heated discussions, one can be certain of that. Every social media outing by Plyushchenko and his skaters are already being minutely dissected on the Russian language media and fora within minutes of their posting time.

It remains to be seen wether his training staff, the skaters and their parents fully agree to being exposed by their master and owner like that. Is it part of their contractual clauses to submit themselves to daily whims of social media exposure at the level of Plyushchenko/Rudkovskaya provide? Or have all media accounts been handed over to the PR department of the Academy, for one can be certain their will be leaks and unwanted exposures when the kids do their daily IG Lives, TikToks etc. Titova and Zhilina are under 13 and shouldn't even have unmonitored accounts.

Of course it is nice to see the skaters at work, getting things done and having fun occasionally, but once they all settle in, I think the coverage will become less and more repetitive. We'll see how it goes. For now, the kids are bored having to spend their off hours in single occupation at their rooms (according to the rules at least).
 

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hmmmm... I could watch Anna, Alyona's videos, too in this week. :handw: And that is sure there will be 4-5( Edwin, Kobot, Flanker,..) posters , who are TT and Eteri's über and they will start the daily hated discusson especially if Sasha will be in good condition and form. LOL! The others just wait and see what will happen. And they are waiting the videos, of course.

Otherwise this "daily hated discusson" shows more about their personality than about the devil coach himself.

Well, I need to do the "daily" cooking, bye!:laugh:
 

KOBOT37

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wait,wait,wait I must be missing something here.

Where are all these people who criticized Eteri for not caring about girls' health? Here we have (supposedly) first day on the Ice and she is jumping borderline ultra C, where are health concerns?!
 

Fried

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wait,wait,wait I must be missing something here.

Where are all these people who criticized Eteri for not caring about girls' health? Here we have (supposedly) first day on the Ice and she is jumping borderline ultra C, where are health concerns?!
No problem. Anyone who survived Eteri without injury is steeled for every conceivable challenges! :biggrin:
 

KOBOT37

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No problem. Anyone who survived Eteri without injury is steeled for every conceivable challenges! :biggrin:

Eteri's students supposedly spent first day just skating around and jumped 3-3 after one week, I have feeling jumping 3lz-3lo immediately after returning on the ice from lengthy absence may be bit too extreme, even for TT.

But Indeed, not problem for TT.

Just one minor correction, If it goes wrong, please don't blame Eteri for destroying her health A-la Medvedeva.
 

Fried

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Just one minor correction, If it goes wrong, please don't blame Eteri for destroying her health A-la Medvedeva.

I don't remember ever criticizing Eteri for ANYTHING. The only thing that I criticize is the exhausting (euphemistically spoken) contributions of their hardcore fans.
 

KOBOT37

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I don't remember ever criticizing Eteri for ANYTHING. The only thing that I criticize is the exhausting (euphemistically spoken) contributions of their hardcore fans.

oh really? :laugh:

that is funny.

On FSO, Eteri's personal thread never stays opened for more than few days because hordes of people immediately go there and blame her in everything from killing of JFK to creating CoVid-19, there are blogs on youtube pretty much dedicated to hating every her skater,at reddit every BS about her gets upvoted and trying to say she isn't all that evil immediately brings you downvotes,even at sports.ru, there casual Russian fans are in majority and obviously support her,there are many hardcore regulars whose only motivation in life seems to be trashing everything remotely connected to her.

and it was Eteri's fans that exhausted you?! sorry about that then.
 

Fried

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oh really? :laugh:

that is funny.

On FSO, Eteri's personal thread never stays opened for more than few days because hordes of people immediately go there and blame her in everything from killing of JFK to creating CoVid-19, there are blogs on youtube pretty much dedicated to hating every her skater,at reddit every BS about her gets upvoted and trying to say she isn't all that evil immediately brings you downvotes,even at sports.ru, there casual Russian fans are in majority and obviously support her,there are many hardcore regulars whose only motivation in life seems to be trashing everything remotely connected to her.

and it was Eteri's fans that exhausted you?! sorry about that then.

I read HERE and not there. HERE I am currently reading nothing more than Plushenko Bashing and Eteri Glorification. Where are the posts doing the same in reverse? I can't see them, sorry.
 
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